io9 Argumentation

Bobby Derie

http://io9.com/the-7-least-subtle-comic-retcons-of-all-time-1427683222

I'll say it: I think Rob Bricken is being lazy with this list. I agree these are many and terrible, but in the history of comics I don't think these are the least subtle retcons, jsut a handful of those that people are most bitching about now. If this list had been done a couple years ago I'm sure it would include Avengers Dis-Assembled and Marvel: The End Kung fu 70s Wonder Woman springs to mind. Clone Saga comes close, but they chickened out of "Peter is the Clone." Death of Superman was always a planned media event, not a retcon. One that really deserves to be on there, if only to show that a retcon (or maybe "abandonment") doesn't have to be bad is Alan Moore's run on Supreme.

Agree/disagree?

JyrenB

I have trouble really caring about 'articles' like this because they tend to combine the worst things about internet 'journalism': Bad articles in number list form and desperate link bait.

Best thing to do, especially if you think this kind of thing is lazy, is to not give it any attention at all.

Centipede Damascus

I'm really confused as to what definition of "retcon" we're operating on here, because Crisis on Infinite Earths was not a retcon by any definition I'm aware of. Neither was Brightest Day, or Avengers Disassembled, or Marvel: The End either. A retcon is when you alter existing continuity, not when you change a character's status quo or reboot a universe. Retcons are stuff like Sins Past or Swamp Thing finding out he's not really human or Loeb introducing black helmet Novas.

WeedLordVegeta

Argument: fuck gawker media

Elderlycrawfish

Shitty list put out on the internet, news at 11.

In other news around the world, water: still wet.

Bobby Derie

Yes, very good, we've established it's a shitty list. What would go on a proper list, though? Assuming we take Centipede Damascus' definition as a starting point.

DJ Eebs

I don't think a list article from a different website is really enough to justify its own thread.