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[Pokemon] Thread! X and Y out in every region now! Poke your mons with Pokémon-Amie

RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
edited October 2013 in Games and Technology
Welcome to the world of Pokémon!

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Pokémon are creatures who are mainly used for being enslaved and made to battle to the death, but some people just think they're cute and keep them as pets. Upon reaching a certain level, Pokémon evolve... Or, well, saying they change their form is more accurate, as the Game Theorist explains:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2mRcAoXLQ

But we'll still call them evolutions, for simplicity's sake, and also because it's the official term (also, the changes they suffer do count as evolutions, just not necessarily Darwinian evolution.

Anyway...

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If you're planning to get Pokémon X or Y, you need to be prepared for a ton of mechanic changes, as big the ones in second, third, and fourth generations.

First of all, XY will feature Dig.... Err... Mega Evolutions:
Bulbapedia wrote:
Mega Evolution (Japanese: メガシンカ Mega Evolution) is a transformation method found only in the Kalos region. Mega Evolutions are identified by having "Mega" in front of their name.

In order to undergo a Mega Evolution, the Pokémon must be holding the applicable Mega Stone. The player must use their Mega Ring, which contains a Key Stone, to resonate with the Mega Stone held by their Pokémon to trigger Mega Evolution. Mega Evolution can only occur in battle and disappears after the battle is over.

Korrina knows secrets about Mega Evolution. The Tower of Mastery is also related to Mega Evolution in some way.

Here are some trailers showcasing Mega Evolution:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-7F_CtogpM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BftrqE2CQiQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blhaSxUJ-OU

Some Pokémon even have different Mega Evolutions depending on the specific stone you use (and they're X or Y exclusives).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2WFoT9oGtfc

Upon the release of the game, you get a Torchic holding the stone that turns its final evolution, Blaziken into...
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Mega Blaziken, fuck yeah.

They're also introducing a new type, the Fairy type, which is strong against Fighting, Dragon, and Dark-type Pokémon, while it's weak against Poison, and Steel, and actually takes no damage from Dragon-type attacks! Also, it deals weak damage when up against Fire, Steel, and Poison. I guess they liked Ferngully.

A few of the revealed Fairy-type Pokémon are these:

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Sylveon, a new Eevee evolution, who gets Cute Charm as its ability and it's rumored to have Multiscale as its Dream World ability.


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Xerneas, the X Pokémon mascot uber.

There are plenty to choose from, and some older Pokémon, like Jigglypuff and Gardevoir have turned into Fairy types (in the case of Gardevoir, it still retains its Psychic type, though).

Metagross fans, though, prepare to be disappointed, because Steel no longer resists Dark and Ghost types. Bummer.

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And for those of you who always complained about how hard it was to train the Effort Values of Pokémon (regardless of how easy it kept getting as each generation got released), they made them even easier now, which comes to a blessing even for those of us who got used to doing that, with the introduction of Super Training:
Bulbapedia wrote:
Super Training (Japanese: スーパートレーニング Super Training) is a method of Pokémon training introduced in the Pokémon X and Y games. It allows players to train their Pokémon on the touch screen from anywhere at any time. Super Training allows the player to not increase their Pokémon's level, but instead raise its stats. It is possible to access Super Training via the Player Search System and Pokémon-Amie.

And speaking of Pokémon-Amie, you won't need to play Hey You! Pikachu anymore in order to attempt to bond with Pokémon.
Pokémon-Amie (Japanese: ポケパルレ Poké Parley) is a feature in Pokémon X and Y that allows the player to develop stronger bonds with their Pokémon. It uses the touch screen to allow players to pet, feed, and play with Pokémon currently on their team. Players may interact with their Pokémon by petting or feeding them via the touchscreen or mimicking their movements using the camera. There are three new options to choose from for the player: play, hunger and friendliness, and there is a display screen showing the options. Large Pokémon, like Tyranitar and Snorlax, take up both screens of the 3DS.

Playing with a Pokémon increases its friendship with the player, and allows it to avoid attacks and land critical hits more often.

Many other new features make X and Y worthy of being played, like every Pokémon that participates in battle getting full Experience (and the same goes for the EXP All item), being able to ride Pokémon to go up ledges (FINALLY!!), the ability to customize the trainer's appearance, and being able to sit.

Pokémon X and Y will be available on October 12th both physically and specially, I mean, digitally. The digital release's size will be 1.7GB.


(Also, Pikachu's cry will now be the voice of Ikue Otani, I thought you should know)

TO ALL THOSE CHEATERS THAT ATTEMPT TO CLONE POKéMON BY COPYING YOUR DIGITAL GAME'S SAVE FILE: The game will link your save to an ID in the 3DS's system memory, so if you try to restore your save, it won't recognize it.

For those who wish, for some strange reason, erase your game in order to start a new one from scratch, you have to press Up + B + X at the title screen to delete the save file.

G&T Pokémon trainer Friend Code list (LINK)

Remember to notify everyone you add that you've done so. The best way is to add an @ just before their name. If the name has spaces, type the name inside "quotation marks". Remember to also leave your trainer name.

WARNING! DON'T SAVE OUTSIDE IN LUMIOSE CITY!
This seems pretty important and something that should be in the OP or otherwise posted often:

http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/696959-pokemon-x/67488169
WARNING: Do NOT Save Outside in Lumiose City!

I saved near a cab in Lumiose City and now whenever I try to restart my game it immediately freeezes. It loads my trainer and all of my clothes as well as the buildings and their lighting effects, but none of the objects in the streets or the textures on the buildings show up.

Pokémon-Amie is also frozen on my bottom-screen without loading anything and the game won't return to the Home menu when I push my button. I can hard-shutoff, but the 3DS internal software is completely frozen.

The only evidence I can find that anyone's had similar trouble is a single YouTube video uploaded by someone who speaks some Asian language.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzxQhXyLJQ0

Anyways, I'm posting this both in hopes of informing everyone else playing the game, and in hopes of finding a fix that doesn't involve deleting my save.

Be careful guys.
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  • RamiRami Registered User regular
    Those two big pictures are a little too big for pokemon that aren't Charizard.

  • PolaritiePolaritie Sleepy Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    So, how many outfits have been leaked so far, anyways?

    Edit: Is there any type an Eevee evolution can't get STAB'd super effective against besides normal?

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    Love that first pic. That's so Oak. :rotate:

    This week will be brutal.

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    Rami wrote: »
    Those two big pictures are a little too big for pokemon that aren't Charizard.
    I reduced the size of the pictures now. Charizard gets a whole trailer dedicated to it, there's no need to give it its own picture!

  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    PLA wrote: »
    Wyborn wrote: »
    PLA wrote: »
    Maybe it's because I'm staying up late, and thus grumpy, but it bothers me that I've seen people associate
    Z-legendary with the Midgard-serpent. It's a Ground-type sitting in a cave, sharing a trio with Yggdrasil-creatures. The Midgard-serpent is found in the sea, as far away from the central tree as possible.

    Incidentally
    I would absolute lose my shit over a Nidhogg-style legendary

    He's more elemental and primal than the sons of Loki, it would make me lose my mind
    Z-legendary is a subterranean, snakelike Dragon/Ground-type, with an ability that specifically hinders the two legendaries (stag and eagle) who live in the tree. The ability is super-narrowly focused on inconveniencing those two.

    Yeah

    YEAH

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  • AvalonGuardAvalonGuard Registered User regular
    I haven't played Pokemon, truly, since Silver. Yet I'm thinking about getting in on this. Anything new in particular not mentioned in the OP that's exciting?

  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    I haven't played Pokemon, truly, since Silver. Yet I'm thinking about getting in on this. Anything new in particular not mentioned in the OP that's exciting?
    There's a new team that's not Team Rocket, Galaxy, Plasma, Aqua or Magma.

    Wait, that's not exactly new, is it?

  • SniperGuySniperGuy SniperGuyGaming Registered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Is the digital download going to be available at midnight the day of? Or at least as early as gamestop opens? Considering changing my preorder into a nintendo card for the eshop to get the digital version instead of the cart. Any opinions on that? Can I even do that at gamestop? I called and the dude wasn't sure.

    Asking this in the shiny new thread.

  • SpoitSpoit *twitch twitch* Registered User regular
    So, have there been any leaks about the legendary trio for this gen?

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  • skeldareskeldare Gresham, ORRegistered User regular
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    SniperGuy wrote: »
    Is the digital download going to be available at midnight the day of? Or at least as early as gamestop opens? Considering changing my preorder into a nintendo card for the eshop to get the digital version instead of the cart. Any opinions on that? Can I even do that at gamestop? I called and the dude wasn't sure.

    Asking this in the shiny new thread.

    It'll be available at midnight. Not sure about changing to a Nintendo eshop card though, I don't see why not though.

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  • redfield85redfield85 Registered User regular
    More digital talk! I think that is the way I am going now.

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  • Darth_MogsDarth_Mogs Registered User regular
    No second Eeveelution makes me a sad panda.

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  • Catastrophe_XXVICatastrophe_XXVI Registered User regular
    Anyone have any thoughts on how to utilize multiple saves across different SD cards?

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    Not possible. I'll put that on the OP.

  • Dr. ChaosDr. Chaos Post nuclear nuisance Registered User regular
    Darth_Mogs wrote: »
    No second Eeveelution makes me a sad panda.
    I feel your pain.

    Really wanted something cool to offset Sylveon's cuteness like a rock, dragon, bug, steel or ghost type.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Spoit wrote: »
    So, have there been any leaks about the legendary trio for this gen?

    We get Electhor Artikodin and Sulfura

    Aka Zapdos Articuno and Moltres

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  • ZephiranZephiran Registered User regular
    You know, the more I look at Legendary Presumably Representing The Letter Z, the more I think it has a vaguely lupine or possibly rodentlike head shape. Perhaps a hint towards a possible future form change?

    Alright and in this next scene all the animals have AIDS.

    I got a little excited when I saw your ship.
  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Knight_ wrote: »
    InkSplat wrote: »
    So, I have a question. I am seriously considering picking up a 2DS and X. However, since I moved, the closest Gamestop is about 20 minutes away, so just not doable for the events and such. Is there any info on whether events are going to continue being primarily Gamestop things, or will just the internet be enough? Because not being able to get whatever new Megas they release or something is definitely going to bug me, and might be enough to put me off buying it completely.

    Assuming it uses the same nintendozone thing that animal crossing does, you should just be able to cheat and setup your router to look like a nintendozone. I used that to get stuff from best buy for animal crossing without having to to go to best buy.

    I've never looked into how that works.

    Edit: Haha,
    the basic bird gets Flame Body. The joke is eggs.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Theres supposedly one more legendary in the base game but it might require Xerneas and Yvetal in your party

    Trading is impossible for the leakers atm so well find out saturday I guess.

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  • DarkMechaDarkMecha The Outer SpaceRegistered User regular
    So, I have never played a Pokemon game before, but they look rather cool. I have played DQ Monsters Joker and liked it as well. Thinking of getting this one. Anything special I should know?

    Also I've always wondered that, given these are monsters of immense power in some cases, and you are effectively just a kid with no special powers or fighting abilities - why do they obey you?

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    Theres supposedly one more legendary in the base game but it might require Xerneas and Yvetal in your party

    Trading is impossible for the leakers atm so well find out saturday I guess.

    is this the rumored
    fenrir?

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  • Catastrophe_XXVICatastrophe_XXVI Registered User regular
    I was just told last night that the higher level pokemon are locked out by where you are on badges. If a pokemon is too high level it, in fact, won't listen to you.

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  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    I seem to recall that only really becomes an issue with lopsided trades, right? Otherwise you're generally kept out of areas you're not supposed to be in either by scripted roadblocks or metroid style walls.

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  • Romantic UndeadRomantic Undead Registered User regular
    DarkMecha wrote: »
    So, I have never played a Pokemon game before, but they look rather cool. I have played DQ Monsters Joker and liked it as well. Thinking of getting this one. Anything special I should know?

    Also I've always wondered that, given these are monsters of immense power in some cases, and you are effectively just a kid with no special powers or fighting abilities - why do they obey you?

    It's never truly explained in-game. Presumably it's a property of the Pokeball (the device you use to capture said pokemon). As someone else noted above, an overly powerful pokemon may indeed disobey you if you haven't "proven yourself" by obtaining a high-enough Gym Badge, but it's rare that it becomes an issue unless you've got a friend that trades you an overly powerful monster for where you are in the story.

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    Pokemon you catch never disobey.

    Traded mons however will unless you have the right badge.
    Theres supposedly one more legendary in the base game but it might require Xerneas and Yvetal in your party

    Trading is impossible for the leakers atm so well find out saturday I guess.

    is this the rumored
    fenrir?

    I believe so

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  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    I was just told last night that the higher level pokemon are locked out by where you are on badges. If a pokemon is too high level it, in fact, won't listen to you.

    Yup - that's how they've always worked. So if you happen to only have say 2 badges but download an event Pokemon that's level 50 it'll basically be useless until you get a few more badges. The exception, I believe is that your starter Pokemon will always listen to you but I could be wrong.

    I'm getting super excited - kind of bummed that the preorder bonus at Gamestop is a print given my game room is already one huge Nintendo advertisement thanks to club Nintendo but it's still nice to get something.

  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    DarkMecha wrote: »
    So, I have never played a Pokemon game before, but they look rather cool. I have played DQ Monsters Joker and liked it as well. Thinking of getting this one. Anything special I should know?

    Also I've always wondered that, given these are monsters of immense power in some cases, and you are effectively just a kid with no special powers or fighting abilities - why do they obey you?

    It's never truly explained in-game. Presumably it's a property of the Pokeball (the device you use to capture said pokemon). As someone else noted above, an overly powerful pokemon may indeed disobey you if you haven't "proven yourself" by obtaining a high-enough Gym Badge, but it's rare that it becomes an issue unless you've got a friend that trades you an overly powerful monster for where you are in the story.

    As far as the show explains it it's just a matter of training like with a pet and different people do so in different ways. Some people become friends with their pokes which makes them obey others rule through force making the pokes obey through respect.

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Isn't it kind of a core concept of the show that the more abusive trainers usually wind up losing eventually to bleeding hearts like ash and his friends?

    The idea that the protagonists are excessively nurturing and kind to their pokemon is somehow supposed to excuse the fact that they're still slaves.

    In the games, the pokeballs must be part cage, part indoctrination. In the anime some of them like charizard are a bit more disobedient.

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  • DarkMechaDarkMecha The Outer SpaceRegistered User regular
    Isn't slave alittle harsh? I mean, you make them battle to the death, not do your laundry! That would be immoral.

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  • CowSharkCowShark Registered User regular
    I was just told last night that the higher level pokemon are locked out by where you are on badges. If a pokemon is too high level it, in fact, won't listen to you.

    If you take a lopsided trade from a friend and a pokemon is high enough level to not listen to you, it's usually nigh-invulnerable to whatever you're up against, so it's okay if it wastes a turn here or there. "Won't listen to you" just means it'll sometimes waste a turn dawdling, or sometimes pick its own move to use. This usually isn't much impediment to you.

  • Catastrophe_XXVICatastrophe_XXVI Registered User regular
    Yeah, this isn't The Flintstones.!

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  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    Frustration has the same power as Return, on paper, but takes much more effort to maintain, so being nice is more efficient.

    More generally, pokemon-trainers are just that: Trainers. Many times, maybe most of the time, pokemon seem to have humanlike intelligence and language-skills, but it's pretty much a form of dog-training. Obedience is more social than magical.
    There have been several mentions of wild pokemon seeking trainers on own initiative, though.

    http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/interview/35513
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    JM: When we were first developing the games we thought about including it. I thought it would be fun. But once the game was complete and released, I changed my mind down the road and didn’t think it would be – I thought it would be confusing for people and kind of hard to understand how it worked. So I eventually made the decision not to distribute it.

    That's not nice, Masuda.

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    so wait, if trades haven't been possible yet with the leaked copies...

    ...are there no pokemon with final evolutions that require trades in this one? Or does something still have a blank slot next to it in the pokedex between something else?

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  • King RiptorKing Riptor Registered User regular
    It is pretty trippy.
    But in a good way. And the music

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  • RockinXRockinX Registered User regular
    Someone on 4chan said that the leaks were elaborate hoaxes made to distract people from the real games.

    It'd be hilarious and awesome if that were true, but I doubt it.

  • PLAPLA The process.Registered User regular
    so wait, if trades haven't been possible yet with the leaked copies...

    ...are there no pokemon with final evolutions that require trades in this one? Or does something still have a blank slot next to it in the pokedex between something else?

    There were still a few blanks this morning.

  • Alucard6986Alucard6986 xbox: Ubeltanzer swtor: UbelRegistered User regular
    hrmm, so who might be missing an evolution?

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  • DemonStaceyDemonStacey TTODewback's Daughter In love with the TaySwayRegistered User regular
    Is there a list of all the past pokemon that are catchable in X/Y anywhere?

  • Lindsay LohanLindsay Lohan Registered User regular
    CowShark wrote: »
    I was just told last night that the higher level pokemon are locked out by where you are on badges. If a pokemon is too high level it, in fact, won't listen to you.

    If you take a lopsided trade from a friend and a pokemon is high enough level to not listen to you, it's usually nigh-invulnerable to whatever you're up against, so it's okay if it wastes a turn here or there. "Won't listen to you" just means it'll sometimes waste a turn dawdling, or sometimes pick its own move to use. This usually isn't much impediment to you.

    It may depend on just how big the level difference is I think. I tried using a level 50 event Pokemon with only two badges and after a dozen rounds of it not listening had to give up. I never even got one move out of it.

  • SirToastySirToasty Registered User regular
    I like that they are severely reducing the number of legendary pokemon. 3 confirmed with a rumored 4th is a good number.

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