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[PA Comic] Wednesday, October 9, 2013 - The Intrusion Of Actual Life

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  • DexterBelgiumDexterBelgium Registered User regular
    Having, three weeks ago, finally let go (/ been relieved of(?)) my own father to pancreatic cancer, and still, on a daily basis, finding out more and more stuff that further strengthens my resolve to become the "anti-him", this (and the associated news post) hits all the right notes for me. I love the "highly inappropriate" humor to deal with this, laughed out loud at it and realised I can only tell my brothers why I am laughing, as anyone else woud think me heartless...

  • jothkijothki Registered User regular
    What's with waiting rooms and not having anything interesting to read, anyway? All they need is Time or Popular Science or heck, even National Geographic, but it's always just People, Men's Health, and Highlights.

  • NeuroskepticNeuroskeptic Registered User regular
    The trouble is, it generally turns out that your father got to be how he is after resolving to be anti- your grandfather.

  • Charger347Charger347 Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    I lost my mom to cancer in 2012 two days before my 25th birthday. It got so bad so fast they didn't even have time to find the origin point to tell what caused the cancer. Best wishes, and I hope your dad gets better.

    This is were I was going to make a joke concerning the size of a booce ball to other famous sports paraphernalia in fantasy literature, but there is surprisingly little that I can think of. Best I can come up with is that it's about half the size of a Bludger from Harry Potter...

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  • CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    jothki wrote: »
    What's with waiting rooms and not having anything interesting to read, anyway? All they need is Time or Popular Science or heck, even National Geographic, but it's always just People, Men's Health, and Highlights.

    Every magazine you just listed would be equally boring to me.

    I can sometimes read PC gamer mags but largely magazines are an outdated concept to me. I just browse the net on my phone.

  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    I thought bocce was a language from Star Wars.

    Huh.

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  • SolventSolvent Econ-artist กรุงเทพมหานครRegistered User regular
    Charger347 wrote: »
    This is were I was going to make a joke concerning the size of a booce ball to other famous sports paraphernalia in fantasy literature, but there is surprisingly little that I can think of. Best I can come up with is that it's about half the size of a Bludger from Harry Potter...

    I'd say about the size of the knob on the end of a wizard's staff...

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  • MinokoMinoko Registered User regular
    Be honest, who read today's post by Tycho and then rang their Dad?

    The last line tore me up

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  • Twenty SidedTwenty Sided Registered User regular
    The trouble is, it generally turns out that your father got to be how he is after resolving to be anti- your grandfather.

    Turns out that guy was reportedly a gentleman's gentleman who sired a science nerd.

  • DexterBelgiumDexterBelgium Registered User regular
    In my case it was simpler: my dad, from an early age, got the message at home that affection was useless, and that the only thing he was ever going to get recognised for was being good at numbers. You can't grow up a normal well-adjusted person from that. But still, people have come from shittier beginnings to grow up to be decent persons, and he failed to do so.

    Relevant:
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  • KageraKagera Imitating the worst people. Since 2004Registered User regular
    My dad grew up poor and with a dad who was pretty unaffectionate so he wanted to be the opposite of that and he was but it also spoiled me and smothered me turning me into a pretty emotionally distant and immature person.

    I mean I don't put all the blame on him just that it makes me think trying not to be my dad to my kids would take me to the other extreme that is just as unwise.

    I would like to be as affectionate as my dad was to my kids, but probably less of a spoiler of them.

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  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    I like that Tycho is reading Highlights.

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  • KalTorakKalTorak One way or another, they all end up in the Undercity.Registered User regular
    holy shit the newspost

  • PajamaHeroPajamaHero Dream Master Slumber LandRegistered User regular
    My heart goes out to Jerry, no matter your relationship with your parent their death will have a great impact on you.

    My father worked tirelessly to create something to leave me with and I'll be forever grateful to him. Even though we share few interests that don't involve the outdoors, at 34 I still have the childlike view that my dad is the best dad. I try every day to prepare myself for a world that he isn't in. I simply can't imagine it. I know you don't read this and aren't religious, but my prayers/positive energy are directed towards you and your family in this difficult time Jerry.

    Thanks for making me laugh.

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  • HevachHevach Registered User regular
    Rorus Raz wrote: »
    I like that Tycho is reading Highlights.

    Having spent many, many hours in hospital waiting rooms, after a certain point everything else blurs together. And besides, they're probably the most up-to-date magazine on the rack.

  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    Oh my god. I'm on my way to the hospital right now to meet my mother to see if they're going to continue her chemo, which is damaging her so much they may not continue the course. That news post. My feels. Shit.

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  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    I want to bro the news post. Somebody let me bro the news post.

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  • MDSVeritasMDSVeritas Registered User regular
    That news post...

    I can only imagine what he's going through. Some of the best and more powerful stuff from Penny Arcade I've seen comes from personal stuff like this, I hope things turn out okay.

  • XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Even though you don't read the forums, I hope your Dad gets better.

  • MKRMKR Registered User regular
    The trouble is, it generally turns out that your father got to be how he is after resolving to be anti- your grandfather.

    I didn't realize why my dad drip-fed my experiences with his family until I was about 15. That was around when I actually got to meet my granddad, a few years before he died. What I experienced wasn't an overbearing asshole dad. What I experienced was a dad with a high level of restraint that occasionally faltered, revealing his upbringing. It's amazing how a contrast can make your whole life look a little different.

    And my niece has a great dad because our dad showed that restraint, and brought us up to be thinking, caring, and progressive despite his failings.

  • VorneVorne Registered User new member
    The last line of that post is the saddest, most poignant sentence I have ever read. Wow.

  • YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    What's with waiting rooms and not having anything interesting to read, anyway? All they need is Time or Popular Science or heck, even National Geographic, but it's always just People, Men's Health, and Highlights.

    Every magazine you just listed would be equally boring to me.

    I can sometimes read PC gamer mags but largely magazines are an outdated concept to me. I just browse the net on my phone.

    Having spent many hours in hospital and doctors' waiting room just this last weekend, depending on electronics to last the entirety of a visit is risky. Especially if you are using the internet.

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    YoungFrey wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    jothki wrote: »
    What's with waiting rooms and not having anything interesting to read, anyway? All they need is Time or Popular Science or heck, even National Geographic, but it's always just People, Men's Health, and Highlights.

    Every magazine you just listed would be equally boring to me.

    I can sometimes read PC gamer mags but largely magazines are an outdated concept to me. I just browse the net on my phone.

    Having spent many hours in hospital and doctors' waiting room just this last weekend, depending on electronics to last the entirety of a visit is risky. Especially if you are using the internet.

    I guess this is one of the situations that would make a Powerbag a worthy investment.

  • Null_IceNull_Ice Registered User new member
    Me right now:

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    right in the feels

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    As a side note I don't really think bocce ball qualifies as a sport.

  • MalReynoldsMalReynolds The Hunter S Thompson of incredibly mild medicines Registered User regular
    That news post

    :(

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  • NamrokNamrok Registered User regular
    You know, when my father passed away under similar circumstances, with a similar relationship, shit just gets so real. You do a lot of thinking, and retrospection. I know as I got older, I definitely appreciated what my father was able to pull off, given the shit sandwich he was served growing up. Without the man around to constantly stir up your emotions, you just see things differently. Now I find myself butting heads with the constantly conflicting demands of being a man, and I have a lot more sympathy for the shit that went on as I was a kid. The guy likely did the best he could, given the constraints he had to operate in, and the examples that were set for him.

  • JimmyDarkmagicJimmyDarkmagic Registered User regular
    The last sentence in the newspost.... Woof. Makes me think of another Tycho gem (on being a parent, funnily enough): "People can twist the knife in that spot, and it just bleeds and bleeds." This is just after I got book number nine, too, and Jerry's comment on Mike starting up on medication: "I thought being crazy was something we did together... There is no question that I resented him for it."

    Holy shit, Jerry, why you gotta write such devastatingly honest and sparse sentences, huh? Haven't I felt enough?

  • 3lwap03lwap0 Registered User regular
    PajamaHero wrote: »
    My heart goes out to Jerry, no matter your relationship with your parent their death will have a great impact on you.

    This. This in so many ways.

    I was raised by mother and my grandparents. My grandfather died 9 years ago. There isn't a thing in this world I wouldn't trade to spend one more day with him. He was a gruff man, a poor share cropper who grew up in the deep south with the great depression. He wasn't an expressive person. Emotions weren't his strong suit. But he loved his family. And we loved him.

    Do you still have parents? Call them. Stop typing and surfing the god damn internet, pick up a phone, and call them or go see them. Ask them how their day went. Chit chat. It doesn't matter.

    One day you won't be able to.

  • Captain ElevenCaptain Eleven The last card is a kronk Registered User regular
    The level of feels in this news post is too damn high.

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  • DexterBelgiumDexterBelgium Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Namrok wrote: »
    You know, when my father passed away under similar circumstances, with a similar relationship, shit just gets so real. You do a lot of thinking, and retrospection. I know as I got older, I definitely appreciated what my father was able to pull off, given the shit sandwich he was served growing up. Without the man around to constantly stir up your emotions, you just see things differently. Now I find myself butting heads with the constantly conflicting demands of being a man, and I have a lot more sympathy for the shit that went on as I was a kid. The guy likely did the best he could, given the constraints he had to operate in, and the examples that were set for him.

    Good post, loved reading a different perspective.

    In my case though, I find that, more and more, as shit gets real in terms of me grappling with being a man, a husband, a dad, I have less and less comprehension for what he did. Sure, he left us a wad of cash (but what's the use of that at this point? I coulda used some of that earlier, now it's just zeroes on a bank account), but the aggression, the abandonment (due to him fleeing in work), the abuse of our mom and us (mostly verbal, sometimes physical), the lying, cheating and hiding stuff, the emotional blackmail,...

    I can see in myself how "easy" it would be to go that route (just a few nights of taking out the work stress on the family and in turn fleeing to work to avoid facing the consequences of being an insufferable ass, just a little bit of sating that addictive personality he left me by either work, drink or other), and recoil at the abyss... I can't, looking at my son and daughter, imagine putting a child for which I feel that all-consuming love through that. Not for anything. Not even if it means my work, sanity or life.

    EDIT: And I still relate to Jerry's comment too though. I wasn't angry at him, lying there painfully dying, there was no feeling of karma, no malice. Until he made it his final conscious act to heap an additional pyle of emotional abuse on my little bro (who, due to a sad fluke, was the only one bullied in to going there for that shit sandwich).

    If I learned one thing from him: intentions mean jack shit, if you don't act in a good way, you are NOT a good person.

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  • wormspeakerwormspeaker Objectively Terrible Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    I guess this is one of the situations that would make a Powerbag a worthy investment.

    Just bring your charging cord from home. Nearly every waiting room has power outlets for you to use these days.

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    edited October 2013
    Gaslight wrote: »
    I guess this is one of the situations that would make a Powerbag a worthy investment.

    Just bring your charging cord from home. Nearly every waiting room has power outlets for you to use these days.

    Well, the powerbag keeps you from having to compete with possibly limited power outlets with other people, and takes away the problem of having to sit near an outlet or having a cord snaking across the room.

    I know I sound like a salesman for these things. Actually I don't even own one myself, as I don't have the need (don't have to travel a lot or anything). But I know people who have them and I just think they're cool.

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  • joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    edited October 2013
    The trouble is, it generally turns out that your father got to be how he is after resolving to be anti- your grandfather.

    Mine resolved not to be his crazy, sociopath, knife-throwing mother and turned into his crazy, sociopath, physically-and-emotionally abusive father instead.

    I know precisely where Jerry is coming from on the "anti-him" part of the newspost and even though my asshole of a dad is still out there today I have long since forgiven him (even if he doesn't want my forgiveness) and moved on with my life. I can't say for sure how I'll feel when I'm in this place but I can't imagine it will be dissimilar.

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  • SpaffySpaffy Fuck the Zero Registered User regular
    Finished the meeting with mum. Mixed news. Read the news post again in the car with my family (first time I've driven my mother anywhere), sob quietly, turn up the radio to hide it.

    And having all the power in the world isn't going to help you with the internet in most hospitals, because when all their shit is switched on, there will be no signal for phone or 3G.

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  • NightslyrNightslyr Registered User regular
    PajamaHero wrote: »
    My heart goes out to Jerry, no matter your relationship with your parent their death will have a great impact on you.

    Given that my father is in prison for being a remorseless child molester, in addition to generally being a mentally abusive, sometimes physically abusive asshole, his death will be the cause of great celebration for my family.

    Like Jerry, me and my brothers have made it a point to be the anti-him. Unlike Jerry, there was never anything we bonded over. No real connection. We were essentially possessions, dolls to be paraded about whenever our achievements made him look good as a parent. Beyond that? Nothing.

    I envy those who have some kind of positive connection with their father. For me, my oldest brother (who, coincidentally, is going through chemo due to colon cancer) is my father figure.

  • YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    Gaslight wrote: »
    I guess this is one of the situations that would make a Powerbag a worthy investment.

    Just bring your charging cord from home. Nearly every waiting room has power outlets for you to use these days.

    I think this advice works better in theory than practice. The reality of an emergency room can be pretty grim. People in serious pain wondering it if their life will ever be the same. On my recent trip there were people who had been sitting there for over 4 hours. I personally would never ask one of those people to move so I could power up some electronics.

  • GreasyKidsStuffGreasyKidsStuff MOMMM! ROAST BEEF WANTS TO KISS GIRLS ON THE TITTIES!Registered User regular
    Reading Jerry's news post, and seeing some of your guys' own experiences, really makes me grateful for having a dad I'm proud of and love incredibly, and who loves me back. So, so thankful for that, and it's something I try not to take for granted.

    If you're reading this, Jerry, best of luck.

  • Music-chanMusic-chan Registered User regular
    Arg, the newspost was all sorts of hard to read. Very powerful though, in the saddest way possible.

  • FramlingFramling FaceHead Geebs has bad ideas.Registered User regular
    Having, three weeks ago, finally let go (/ been relieved of(?)) my own father to pancreatic cancer, and still, on a daily basis, finding out more and more stuff that further strengthens my resolve to become the "anti-him", this (and the associated news post) hits all the right notes for me. I love the "highly inappropriate" humor to deal with this, laughed out loud at it and realised I can only tell my brothers why I am laughing, as anyone else woud think me heartless...

    My mom died when I was in college. At the time, I was working in a giant videoscreen factory (i.e., a normal-sized factory that made giant videoscreens, not a giant factory that made normal-sized videoscreens) and they didn't provide any kind of PTO for bereavement to student employees (despite working the same hours as full-timers during the summer), so I had to return to work for a couple days between when she died and the funeral. I had already been gone a few days, to be there at the end of things, and I literally couldn't afford not to make up the time I'd missed.

    At the time, I had been driving my grandparents' old 1978 Malibu station wagon, my Fiero having died some months prior. The thing had a big ol' V8 in it and got about 12 miles to the gallon, so when my mom died, I inherited her car, a maroon 1992 Buick LeSabre. The old-ladiest of old lady cars. My first day back, I was driving out to the factory, and I saw the car of a friend of mine from work in the rear-view. This guy never really seemed to do much processing between the 'thinking of a thing to say' phase and the 'actually saying the thing' phase. And he was exactly the type to take notice of my change in vehicle. And since I had made no secret of my absence from work, I knew he was walking into a real minefield.

    So we got to the factory. I pulled into the lot across the street. He pulled in a few spaces away. I got out of my car. He got out of his car. I braced myself, because I knew this was gonna be good.

    "Jeez, what old lady'd you kill to get that car?"

    I kept my face perfectly neutral.

    "It was my mom's."

    Seeing his face go from "Heh heh, I said a funny thing," to "Oh God, what have I done??" is a memory I will treasure forever.

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