SpaceBase DF-9: Space Dwarf Fortress by Double Fine

TychoCelchuuu

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYVKyzbF11Q


Sci-fi Dwarf Fortress from Double Fine. That's... pretty much the pitch. Check out this interview with Rock Paper Shotgun which talks about the game. This is one of the games from Double Fine's latest Amnesia Fortnight, if you remember that. You can grab it on Steam Early Access right now if you want.







http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkf4l8O7b24

Corpekata

Harumph shouldn't these guys be finishing their kickstar *plays video*

Okay, GIMMME NOW.

EDIT - it's out now on early access! Man this came out of nowhere.

wilting

€23 on steam early access. I'm tempted.

Ninja Snarl P

Crap.

All that sleep I was planning on having.

Why... why would you do this to me, Double Fine? Whyyyyyyyy?

TheKoolEagle

welp i just dropped $20 on it.

I think it was money well spent.

Lanrutcon

Where the hell did this come from?

TychoCelchuuu

Lanrutcon wrote: »

Where the hell did this come from?

The Double Fine Amnesia Fortnight.

Ninja Snarl P

My worst nightmares.

Only thing that would make it worse if it had been a combination of this and Kerbal Space Program.

Dodged a bullet on that one, I guess.

GoodKingJayIII

Seems cool. Dunno if I will pony up for early access (I don't think I should have to pay to help develop a game), but I really like Double Fine.

TychoCelchuuu

GoodKingJayIII wrote: »

Seems cool. Dunno if I will pony up for early access (I don't think I should have to pay to help develop a game), but I really like Double Fine.

Every time you buy a game you pay to help develop it. It's just that with most games, you pay after the game is developed, which means someone is out a ton of money and fucked if the game doesn't sell.

TychoCelchuuu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZX6PXN1G_E

TheKoolEagle

super excited to play this in an hour, maybe i should stream to twitch?

centraldogma

Talk about coincidence. I finally got around to playing the Fortnight prototypes literally yesterday. This one seems decent, could maybe have used a tutorial. I didn’t get too deep into it but looked pretty close to shippable.

Lanrutcon

Ok, that looks really cool. I'm a sucker for games like this.

TheKoolEagle

that video also sold me when a ship came and permanently docked with the space station. that was fucking awesome and was not expected.

wilting

Also, killer parasite burger.

heenato

Let me just be the first to say "HNGURGH" Doublefine. You're killin' me. This was the standout of amnesia fortnight for me, but I'm broke after having to buy a phone. So, I shall live vicariously through you, thread, for a week.

TheKoolEagle

fyi I'm going to start playing this now, and maybe talk about it


edit: also yell at me if its not working and/or i am super loud because i've never really streamed things live before

I also shut off my mic because I have no good commentary, huzzah!

second edit: done for now since I have to watch agents of shield

Ninja Snarl P

Oh, you crazy space pirates.

Tip #1: Don't invade a freshly-built chunk of station that has no doors built to it yet. You'll get lonely.

Tip #2: When the other pirate ship connects to another piece of the station, don't shoot out the walls of the thin, flimsy hallway as your first move.

Tip #3: Definitely don't try to run across that narrow chunk of station which is now exposed to space because, well, fwoosh.

Also, one of the thoughts one of my builders had was looking forward to playing Psychonauts 4. Got a laugh outta that one.

And the Dwarf Fortress theme is strong here. Restarted my first station after getting the basics, then all the space dudes at my next station asphyxiated literally seconds after a couple of new dudes showed up. New guys also died. The next station, still didn't quite get that O2 generator up and running in time, for another Team-Building Asphyxiation Exercise. And pirates are crawling all over/getting sucked out the new base, so yeah, fun times.

TheKoolEagle

yeah, i ran into a bug with a docked ship that the airlock was broken and anyone who was in it basically got stuck there, so I started over, after I started over the next 2 places I went had no asteroids to mine, so my current base has no asteroids, I am depending on pirates to dock so I can eat up their ships to expand my station haha

GoodKingJayIII

TychoCelchuuu wrote: »

GoodKingJayIII wrote: »

Seems cool. Dunno if I will pony up for early access (I don't think I should have to pay to help develop a game), but I really like Double Fine.

Every time you buy a game you pay to help develop it. It's just that with most games, you pay after the game is developed, which means someone is out a ton of money and fucked if the game doesn't sell.

I understand what they're selling, but I don't really want to pay money for an unfinished game, which I would probably not be interested in playing at "release." Crowd funding is a bit weird, and not risk free. But I don't want to derail this thread so I'm not going to say anything else on it. I still think the game looks cool and I'll be keeping an eye on it!

hatedinamerica

So psyched for this. I wish I wasn't so broke right now though.

Dwarf Fortress might be my favorite human endeavor to date. Pyramids shmyramids, I say. They don't even simulate fingernails or rain or anything.

Matev

Man, if and when I've the money, this seems like a game I can sink my teeth into. The amusement of Dwarf fortress, without the interface issues I have with DF

TheKoolEagle

My twitch stream is up again for awhile before I go play dnd on vent later, so feel free to watch if you need a fix

Sir Carcass

I pretty much have to choose between this and X: Rebirth for the foreseeable future.

Sorry, Doublefine. I'll catch you later.

Mike Danger

I saw someone tweeting about this earlier and I thought "wouldn't it be cool if this was like Dwarf Fortress but in space" and now my eyelid won't stop TWITCHING

Darmak

Matev wrote: »

Man, if and when I've the money, this seems like a game I can sink my teeth into. The amusement of Dwarf fortress, without the interface issues I have with DF

Gnomoria is also Dwarf Fortress with a real interface. I like the shit out of it too but I don't play it nearly enough. That's why I'm not buying this right away, I'm afraid I wouldn't play it enough to justify the expense.

TheKoolEagle

well i am still super hyped for spacebase, but I've already built everything you can currently build, so at the moment I am just waiting for more content

in the meantime i'm going to go play startopia

JesDer

Darmak wrote: »

Matev wrote: »

Man, if and when I've the money, this seems like a game I can sink my teeth into. The amusement of Dwarf fortress, without the interface issues I have with DF

Gnomoria is also Dwarf Fortress with a real interface. I like the shit out of it too but I don't play it nearly enough. That's why I'm not buying this right away, I'm afraid I wouldn't play it enough to justify the expense.

Gnomoria is more Dwarf Fortress Lite. It lacks the depth that DF has. I actually get kinda sad when people compare all these games to DF. It does not do either of them justice. DF has had many years of development to make it an extremely complex simulation hidden behind a horrible interface and because of its interface, it doesn't run into the problem of needing to focus on how to represent its complexity.

With that said, this game looks cool and I will have to check it out... I am just not expecting anything close to Dwarf Fortress.

TychoCelchuuu

The comparison to Dwarf Fortress is not about the complexity, it's about the emergent behavior in your base building game that results from the moods and preferences of all the little people and the disastrous things that can happen to them.

TheKoolEagle

now I play the waiting game for the next content update, as it is fairly barebones currently. I sense great promise though, I'm not disappointed there isn't more to do, I'm just excited for more to be added.

jdarksun

So initial thoughts: awesome, needs more stuff? I think I shall pick this up!

Basil

I'm hoping this turns out to be a good Space Station 13 simulator.

Looks to be on the right track!

jdarksun

Can't be SS13 without multiplayer.

Spawnbroker

It looks fairly barebones for now, but what they have is excellent.

Sunstrand

Played this for a while last night. First Starbase project codenamed:Oxygen? resulted in total loss of crew due to not being able to remove their suits. Second Starbase project codenamed: Seriously we need oxogen! also resulted in total loss of crew.

My third attempt went better, built everything up and have 20 19, crew members and one corpsicle floating outside my main airlock.

I can't wait for more features, I'm a fan of DF but could never really get into.

TychoCelchuuu

Updated development plans indicate a food system is what's being worked on now:

FOOD/GARDENS
* citizens have hunger need and must eat food to satisfy it
* food replicator object that can be built in any zone
* citizens can use food replicator to fulfill hunger need, but it's like vending machine food, adequate but not great
* small matter cost (1-2) each time someone uses a food replicator
** 0 matter = replicators stop working
* garden zones where plants, ie "real food", is grown in hydroponic trays by citizens with botanist duty
* plants in gardens produce small amounts of extra oxygen
* citizens who spend time in garden zones have happy thoughts, increasing morale
* plants grow from seedlings to full-sized plants ready for harvest
* plants have a "health", if it reaches zero the plant dies
* citizens on botanist duty "maintain" plant health, much as techs maintain machines
* citizens can eat raw veggies/fruits/etc to fulfill hunger - better than replicator food, but not as tasty and happiness-inducing as a cooked meal
* botanists harvest fully grown plants and deliver them to pub fridges for preparation
* bartenders at pubs use stoves to cook plants into meals, which nourish citizens more and make them happy
** bartender randomly selects which dish is cooked from global list of randomly generated foods
** new immigrants will sometimes bring new recipes, which are added to the global list
** citizens have food preferences
** eating a preferred food makes them very happy, eating a strongly disliked food makes them a bit unhappy
* citizens sit at a pub table and eat, getting nourishment and a morale boost
* skilled bartenders make people they serve happier

MISC UI
* cutaway mode should work on asteroids

METEOR STRIKES
* meteors strike bases, punching holes in the hull, depressurizing rooms, damaging people and things
** not as harsh as in the Amnesia Fortnight 2012 version, we promise :]
* "panic alarm" env object can be built in any zone which can be activated by player to clear room, so citizens have a chance to survive

TheKoolEagle

nice, time to play some spacebase tonight I think. I can't wait for this to flesh out more like startopia

Heir

Nice update.

I've noticed I can't really delete doors...anyone know how to do that?

Also...I'm not a fan of some of the random events...suddenly a piece of base will just show up near mine.

Bloodsheed

TychoCelchuuu wrote: »

Updated development plans indicate a food system is what's being worked on now:

* citizens on botanist duty "maintain" plant health, much as techs maintain machines

... so they're saying they're going to light all the plants on fire, then?

abotkin

This looks awesome, I'm definitely looking forward to its completion. This thread prompted me to go play DF again, but it's been so long since I actually played seriously that I ended up doing kind of horrible. Not everyone dead horrible, just everyone starting to die during the first winter when the booze ran out and the brook was frozen solid. Came out of it and got a huge influx of settlers in the spring, but I realized I didn't like how things were going and that I'd chosen numerous things poorly at the start. But that's all part of the fun!