[Arrow] The best Batman show without Batman.

Preacher

Is he really his best friend or is just a person that Oliver reminds is a terrible person every minute of every day.

MagicPrime

Preacher wrote: »

Is he really his best friend or is just a person that Oliver reminds is a terrible person every minute of every day.

I'll be honest here. Since DCnU I've fallen hard off the wagon of reading my comics. And this is from a 10+ year track record of getting all the GL titles.

Are you saying they've thrown out Hal and Ollie being best friends?

Preacher

I don't think so, but Ollie does tend to point out GL is a real asshole a lot.

DiannaoChong

Summer Glau is televisions greatest villian. Not as an actress playing a character, just to broadcast television series. (Honestly I think shes done a good enough job so far on this series)

I dont think theres a chance they would make her Talia, but I swear to fucking god if she is talia it will be so dumb.

Thomamelas

Preacher wrote: »

Is he really his best friend or is just a person that Oliver reminds is a terrible person every minute of every day.

It's both really. It's a friendship based on shared assholism and womanizing. And Hal is kind of a terrible person.

Thomamelas

DiannaoChong wrote: »

Summer Glau is televisions greatest villian. Not as an actress playing a character, just to broadcast television series. (Honestly I think shes done a good enough job so far on this series)

I dont think theres a chance they would make her Talia, but I swear to fucking god if she is talia it will be so dumb.

Eh, The Sarah Conner Chronicles used her fairly well. They didn't ask her to express emotion, just stand there and be eye candy.

Siernan

New episode

On the one hand, yay! More John Barrowman!

On the other hand, silly subplot involving Thea.

LostNinja

With all the comparisons this show already gets to the dark knight trilogy the last thing it needs is freaking two face walking around. I get that they don't want to have him always be in the iconic mask that would cover his entire face, but they have to do something about Slade. Other than that though the island stuff is getting really good. Hooray for more Malcolm Merlyn, this show needs a proper villain, but I could do without the stupid overused plot of Thea being his daughter (even if she does seem to be a slightly less terrible actress this season. And lastly on the topic of bad sub plots, CW stop being so CW-y, and drop the Felicity/Oliver pairing.

Over all I thought that this latest episode was pretty great, especially with how exciting the island stuff is getting.

Harry Dresden

LostNinja wrote: »

With all the comparisons this show already gets to the dark knight trilogy the last thing it needs is freaking two face walking around. I get that they don't want to have him always be in the iconic mask that would cover his entire face, but they have to do something about Slade. Other than that though the island stuff is getting really good. Hooray for more Malcolm Merlyn, this show needs a proper villain, but I could do without the stupid overused plot of Thea being his daughter (even if she does seem to be a slightly less terrible actress this season. And lastly on the topic of bad sub plots, CW stop being so CW-y, and drop the Felicity/Oliver pairing.

Over all I thought that this latest episode was pretty great, especially with how exciting the island stuff is getting.

This season is basically

Batman: The TV Series. Which I have wanted for a long time but they don't need to use Green Arrow for the template.

surrealitycheck

felicity-chan~~

uguu

also

diggle would bea gud male stripper

also ollie

this show is very strippertacular

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Preacher

Good ep, apparently security at queen consolidated is Diggle and a ficus plant, the most ferocious of the office plant variety mind you.

Pony

If the fact that

Ollie greased Vertigo right outside the Queen Consolidated building where Vertigo clearly fell out of the window of Ollie's office

has no repercussions going forward and never gets commented on again, I will be really disappointed in the writers

Preacher

Spoiler for the last ep.

Well Arrow already has a history with the count, on top of that with Queen Consolidated releasing the vaccine it can look like the Count was trying to stop a company from stopping his plague and the arrow caught up to him.

Also we got a shot of Barry Allen in the preview! He looks like a generic chris evans, perfect for the flash!

see317

electricitylikesme wrote: »

Oh damn.

But also come on Felicity, you've seen this movie, you should've known what would happen.

Hooray for Malcolm Merlyn being back!

Personally I thought the problem with the court verdict seemed to be that Laurel's argument was pretty weak and should've been demolished by the mother's own lawyer though - convincing Malcolm not to kill your husband rather then just imprison him for 6 months is pretty different to you know, publicly announcing his grand plan and thus giving him no reason not to just kill everyone including you.

Look, she had an affair with the guy nearly 20 years ago, that obviously means she's guilty of everything, ever.
But yeah, any half way decent lawyer should have been able to beat that down pretty quickly.

Of course, her having a competent lawyer could have destroyed Merlyn's whole "Yup, I just saved your ass" thing.

Preacher

Judging Moria's decision making in the past, clearly she didn't choose a competent anything for anything. In fact I'll be surprised if Oliver is her own son at this point, he's probably the result of his dad banging shado or something in some weird future time rift where oliver didn't exist and his father made it to the island.

Preacher

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnNH7jCkrg4

Arrow Trailer for the two part midseason finale, and a brief bit of Barry Allen.

DiannaoChong

Pony wrote: »

If the fact that

Ollie greased Vertigo right outside the Queen Consolidated building where Vertigo clearly fell out of the window of Ollie's office

has no repercussions going forward and never gets commented on again, I will be really disappointed in the writers

You would think that it would implicate queen consolidated

with the vertigo plot. they get money from infecting, doublecross V to sell a vaccine and look like heroes.

Harry Dresden

Pony wrote: »

If the fact that

Ollie greased Vertigo right outside the Queen Consolidated building where Vertigo clearly fell out of the window of Ollie's office

has no repercussions going forward and never gets commented on again, I will be really disappointed in the writers

The writers on this show will milk that for all its worth.

Mike Danger

yussss

I am all for Thea getting a Dark Apprentice plot with Merlyn

Pony

Oh God I just realized

Thea totally had a mad crush on her half-brother in season 1, and probably did for years

That's some Luke and Leia shit right there.

Kipling217

Mike Danger wrote: »

yussss

I am all for Thea getting a Dark Apprentice plot with Merlyn

I sorta doubt that's going to happen.

I mean Merlyn killed her dad(not biological but still), almost killed her half-brother(Oliver), kidnapped her step dad(Walter), killed her other half-brother(That she didn't know about,but would learn) and terrorized her mother for years. That's in addition to killing 503 people with his crazy scheme, almost killing her boyfriend and Thea herself in the process.

If Thea overlooks that in favor of becoming his Apprentice, they would have to do a complete U-turn on her character.

Laurel on the other hand is a candidate for that, because she is all over the place character wise.

It might even make her relevant.

By the way

Laurel loosing the case, even one as incompetently put together as this one, should have repercussions for her career. Its a big ass case, easily the size of OK City Bombing or 9/11 in importance. Even in Starling there would have to be somebody that gets stuck holding the bag. Who better then the new ADA, who meet with Moira and revealed the "great secret" to her before presenting it in trial.

Have her lose her job as a result, hit the booze even harder, start hating Starling City and have Merlyn make an offer.

It could be yet another twist in the "Laurel is going down the drain" saga.

Edit: fixed to please Praecher

Preacher

Lose, its spelled lose.

Greeper

This is the part where everybody (including the writers)

Tries to forget that Thea had a huge crush on Tommy.

Also, it's spelled losing, not loosing.

Harry Dresden

Greeper wrote: »

This is the part where everybody (including the writers)

Tries to forget that Thea had a huge crush on Tommy.

Also, it's spelled losing, not loosing.

Tommy had a crush on her too.

Preacher

Now we just need Mrs. Lance to have been plowed by Olivers father to create laurel but not Sarah, thus removing laurel from Ollie's bang list (not a true lance).

Pony

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Greeper wrote: »

This is the part where everybody (including the writers)

Tries to forget that Thea had a huge crush on Tommy.

Also, it's spelled losing, not loosing.

Tommy had a crush on her too.

AManFromEarth

I gotta be honest, I'm a little disappointed that

Amanda Waller wasn't overweight and middle aged.

Preacher

It's the CW man, no one is over weight.

Harry Dresden

Preacher wrote: »

It's the CW man, no one is over weight.

Waller was overweight on Smallville.

Preacher

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Preacher wrote: »

It's the CW man, no one is over weight.

Waller was overweight on Smallville.

WB Show. Completely different.

Pony

I wish the Arrow Crew would make better use of Roy.

like in the most recent episode

When Felicity was like "I'm going to go check out these shifty flu vaccine trucks by myself because Digg is sick" I was like JUST CALL ROY, THAT IS HIS JOB TO SCOUT SHIT. But then maybe they don't know about Ollie's arrangement with Roy? I dunno, seems like a weird thing for Ollie to keep to himself. Like what's the sense of having an "eyes and ears in the Glades" if you don't use the guy to scout shit?

disclaimer: mostly I just want more Roy in the show.

AManFromEarth

Pony wrote: »

I wish the Arrow Crew would make better use of Roy.

like in the most recent episode

When Felicity was like "I'm going to go check out these shifty flu vaccine trucks by myself because Digg is sick" I was like JUST CALL ROY, THAT IS HIS JOB TO SCOUT SHIT. But then maybe they don't know about Ollie's arrangement with Roy? I dunno, seems like a weird thing for Ollie to keep to himself. Like what's the sense of having an "eyes and ears in the Glades" if you don't use the guy to scout shit?

disclaimer: mostly I just want more Roy in the show.

Speedy!

LostNinja

AManFromEarth wrote: »

Pony wrote: »

I wish the Arrow Crew would make better use of Roy.

like in the most recent episode

When Felicity was like "I'm going to go check out these shifty flu vaccine trucks by myself because Digg is sick" I was like JUST CALL ROY, THAT IS HIS JOB TO SCOUT SHIT. But then maybe they don't know about Ollie's arrangement with Roy? I dunno, seems like a weird thing for Ollie to keep to himself. Like what's the sense of having an "eyes and ears in the Glades" if you don't use the guy to scout shit?

disclaimer: mostly I just want more Roy in the show.

Speedy!

I think it's more likely that they just go straight to calling him red arrow if he ever gets a nickname since they already said that Thea's childhood nickname was speedy. This way they also open up the potential for her to fill the Mia Dearden role.

Harry Dresden

Is Thea really meant to be in high school? I always thought she was in her early 20's.

Greeper

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Is Thea really meant to be in high school? I always thought she was in her early 20's.

She's... running her own business, so safe to say she's 18 now.

Pony

Thea is 18 now and out of high school. In the first season she was not quite 18 and still in high school. Also, not only is her nickname Speedy, her middle name is Dearden.

Myiagros

Anyone else think that it looked like Laurel's chin grew an extra inch this episode?

jefe414

Myiagros wrote: »

Anyone else think that it looked like Laurel's chin grew an extra inch this episode?

I had to turn to a friend of mine and say "why the long face?". Yes, her chin did appear longer than usual.

Tofystedeth

Harry Dresden wrote: »

Greeper wrote: »

This is the part where everybody (including the writers)

Tries to forget that Thea had a huge crush on Tommy.

Also, it's spelled losing, not loosing.

Tommy had a crush on her too.

No he didn't. He has never noticed how hot she is and never, ever will.