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Motorcycle for a newb

ThaiboxerThaiboxer Registered User regular
edited April 2007 in Help / Advice Forum
So my girlfriends father has two Harley Dynas sitting in his garage, and he always jokes the anytime I want to take one out all I have to do is show him my motorcycle license....

As such, I really want to get some hours in riding and get my license. Well right now I am thinking the best way to do that would be to get a cheap bare bones motorcycle that way if I dump it (and live) it won't be a huge loss financially, unlike if I were to dump one of his $20k+ Dynas.

Now, he and his family are "harley people", myself I really respect Honda as a brand and company. So I am really only looking at those two companies.

Since ultimately this decision is going to be based on, what bike will be the cheapest for me to learn to ride on?

Now the the Honda Rebel has an MSRP of $3100, while the base Harley is the 883 Sportster which has an MSRP of about $6500.

My question is, while the cheaper Honda will cost me less out the door, if I plan on selling this thing in a year or so, do you think the Harley will hold it's value more over that time? In which case I spend a little more up front but lose less in the long run? Eventually I would just trade up for a nicer model ( assuming it is a hobby I end up enjoying) or riding his Dyna most of the time.

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    edited April 2007
    Have you taken an MSA course?

    If not, do so before buying a bike. At the very least, it's worth it because they'll loan you a bike for the day so you can get your feet wet without dumping your own bike. At the worst, you'll learn something that might save your life.

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  • Bouncing_SoulBouncing_Soul Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Standard questions: how tall are you/how much do you weight? You might outgrow a Rebel pretty quick. I started with and still have an 1100 V-Star.

    Also, definitely take an MSF course.

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  • cuntstarrunnercuntstarrunner Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    This is more of a warning than help with picking a bike (which I guess does help). My friend got into an accident on a bike. He was trying to change lanes...checked to see if his buddies changed lanes ok then he saw a buddy pointing at traffic ahead. There was a truck that slammed on his breaks and he ran straight into it going 50mph. He ended up with a bloody face and have his RIGHT BALL removed. Didn't break any bones at all...just lost a testicle....so keep that in mind.

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  • PirateJonPirateJon Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Motorcycles hold their value really well, no matter the manufacturer. Of the two I'd get the honda, but don't forget to look at used bikes.

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  • redimpulseredimpulse Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Do not and I repeat DO NOT get a Sportster as your first bike! Yeah they're cool and inexpensive, but they are light, quite torquey and have a high center of gravity. The Sportster is a race bike not a beginners bike.

    If you're looking new, and want to go Harley I'd recommend a FXD Dyna Glide or FXDL Dyna Low Rider. Honda Rebels are nice cars, but like Bouncing_Soul said up there they are quite small and easy to grow out of. The Shadow VLX is just a step above the Rebel and really is a very nice bike for the price.

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  • FatsFats Corvallis, ORRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    redimpulse wrote: »
    Do not and I repeat DO NOT get a Sportster as your first bike! Yeah they're cool and inexpensive, but they are light, quite torquey and have a high center of gravity. The Sportster is a race bike not a beginners bike.

    If you're looking new, and want to go Harley I'd recommend a FXD Dyna Glide or FXDL Dyna Low Rider. Honda Rebels are nice cars, but like Bouncing_Soul said up there they are quite small and easy to grow out of. The Shadow VLX is just a step above the Rebel and really is a very nice bike for the price.

    O_o

    The 883 makes 20ish less horsepower than an SV650 (a bike on the very threshold of beginner bikes, yes, but still) and weighs damn near 200 pounds more. Race bike it ain't. You want to put him on a FXD that weighs 50 pounds more and has twice the displacement? You think $13,000 is a good investment on a first bike?

    Thaiboxer, if you want a Harley, the 883 is great. It's got the tamest power out of the HD lineup, and is probably the best handling as well. The Honda Shadow VLX or Spirit 750 are also good choices. I would avoid the Rebel, they make good MSF bikes but I don't think you'd be happy with one for any length of time. I'd also really steer you towards used for your first bike -- you mentioned selling it after a year or so, and there's no reason to eat new vehicle depreciation on something you're not keeping or even sure you'll like. As long as you don't bang it up too much, you should get about what you paid for a used bike when you sell it again.
    This is more of a warning than help with picking a bike (which I guess does help). My friend got into an accident on a bike. He was trying to change lanes...checked to see if his buddies changed lanes ok then he saw a buddy pointing at traffic ahead. There was a truck that slammed on his breaks and he ran straight into it going 50mph. He ended up with a bloody face and have his RIGHT BALL removed. Didn't break any bones at all...just lost a testicle....so keep that in mind.

    :roll:

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  • Nova_CNova_C I have the need The need for speedRegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I know you said 'Honda or Harley' but the Suzuki SV650 is a popular bike and commonly recommended for new riders. You can also get some badass race ferrings(sp?) for it.

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  • Raif SeveranceRaif Severance Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    I have to agree with the MSA courses previously stated. I took one called the "jump start" course which is 4 hours of the basic-basics of motorcycles. I don't recommend that one since it costs just about as much as the 3 day course. So take the 3 day class... it's great fun and it also lets you skip the driver test for your license (at least in Virginia) and gets you a reduction on your insurance.

    As for a starting bike, don't go with the rebel. It might be good as a commuter bike (as in nothing over 45 mph) but you'll grow out of it in like a month at most. If you're planning on taking your girlfriend anywhere then forget about the Rebel as it's going to struggle with just you on it. I highly recommend the Sportster if you're looking at a cruiser. I went out and got a Kawaskai Vulcan 500 and while I don't regret purchasing it as a starter, I think the Harley would have been a wiser purchase initially. Also, really look at the used market if you can.

    Another aspect I wasn't aware of when you buy a bike is the maintenance required. I actually like getting my hands dirty so it's a welcome hobby but make sure you know what you're getting into. My bike is chain driven so I have to lubricate my chain every 400 miles or so or even after it rains. I can see how this would be frustrating to a lot of people so if that's your case get a belt drive or shaft drive.

    One last thing, make sure a cruiser is what you're looking for. While cruisers are a blast to ride they don't have anywhere near the handling of a sport bike. I sometimes think I would have been better getting a sport bike or even a standard instead of a cruiser since I tend to take turns somewhat fast and end up scraping my bike a bit.

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