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mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour CrrmEast Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
I guess my tires are almost bald...so --

What tire brands should I avoid?
What tire brands would you recommend?
Are fuel efficient tires worth getting?

I live in California, so its mostly dry but it does rain on occasion. I drive a Honda civic coupe. Most of my time is spent commuting on the highway.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    In my experience the OEM tires (the same ones that came new on your car) are a great balance of noise and tread life, though they usually are not cheap.

    I have had bad luck with the less major brands so I usually keep to brands and tire families that are usually equipped from the factory on new cars: Michelin, continental, Pirelli, Dunlop, Goodyear, and Firestone. I expect 40-60k miles out of a set given my driving conditions (assuming I don't damage them beyond patching) and the few times I've tried to save 50-100$ a corner I've regretted it.

    Not sure what you mean by fuel efficient tires, but just keeping your tires properly inflated will get you better fuel economy. If you don't check every other feel up or month or so your tires are almost certainly under inflated. Some tires have a central rib as part of the contact patch, but that's more for better tracking on the highway than for fuel economy.

    You may be able to get away with running summer tires year round, but depends on local climate. I live in Austin where any accumulation of snow, ice, sleet, etc will result in the entire city shutting down, so I don't have to consider even all-weather tires much less snow tires.

  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Thanks for the advice!

    Not sure what I mean by fuel efficient either - I was looking at some tires online and some of them are marked as fuel efficient, so I was just wondering if its marketing BS or if there is actually such a thing.

  • CabezoneCabezone Registered User regular
    Fuel efficiency for tires is a thing but measuring it isn't very accurate right now, it's kind alike the old MPG standards.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    I grab continental or goodyear. Meh at the rest.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Tire rack has decent reviews if you want to go by that (both editor and owner reviews are there). I wouldn't say any particular brand is a dog, but each have their specialties:
    Michelin's are soft but drive fantastic
    Goodyears are middle of the road but wear like iron (great wet grip too)
    Yokohama's are soft but good while they last

    I've had good and bad experiences with everything and used to sling tires for a chain. There's not a ton of difference between major and off brands as long as far as commuting goes. If you want to save money, get a solid H-speed rated tire, as it means you avoid the crappy sidewalled bargain specials. Also, name brands often include a royalty (known as SPIF's) if you sell a set, so people will often drive you towards an equivalent name brand for more money because it means they make 20-40 bucks.

  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    I'll swear by Michelins until I die. We run Pilot Sport 3s on Amys car and they ride smooth and quiet, and grip better than the Continental ContiSport Contacts that it came with from the factory. Also, with about 10,000 miles on them, they appear about 20% worn, so we should get about 40,000 miles out of the fronts before replacement. The rears will probably do about 33-50% better than that (FWD car).

    Avoid "fuel efficient" tyres like the plague, they're specifically designed for reduced friction between the road surface and the tyre, to reduce rolling resistance.

    I dunno about you, but I prefer my tyres to be as grippy as possible instead of getting 0.5% better mileage...

  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Ah, okay, I was wondering what exactly made them fuel efficient. Yea, that is definitely not worth it.

    Thanks people, think I got what I need to know now.

  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    What kind of climate do you live in? That should really determine what kind of tire you get. All-seasons work fine for most people even in really cold and snowy climates (yes, I'm aware that snow tires are infinitely superior, but it's expensive to have another set just for half of the year), but not all-seasons are created equally.

    I just put Continental DWS on my car a couple thousand miles ago and they're working great, even in the frozen, snowy hell I live in.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    badpoet wrote: »
    What kind of climate do you live in? That should really determine what kind of tire you get. All-seasons work fine for most people even in really cold and snowy climates (yes, I'm aware that snow tires are infinitely superior, but it's expensive to have another set just for half of the year), but not all-seasons are created equally.

    I just put Continental DWS on my car a couple thousand miles ago and they're working great, even in the frozen, snowy hell I live in.

    Actually, if you live in really snowy areas (like where I am in NH), snow tires aren't any more expensive, as it's not like you're putting wear on your normal tires while you're on your snows. You can usually swing free tire rotations or make a one-time investment in steel wheels for ~$200. So while the upfront capital to have 2 sets is more, over the long run there's not much difference, and you get better summer and winter grip by having specific tires for each.

  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    I live in California - so, mostly dry and a few months of rain with occasional trips to Lake Tahoe. All-seaons should be fine, and I have chains/wires for my car for when I do go to snowy areas.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Yeah, all-seasons are fine for bay area, and half the time chain controls are code for "don't drive like a complete idiot".

  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    Actually, if you live in really snowy areas (like where I am in NH), snow tires aren't any more expensive, as it's not like you're putting wear on your normal tires while you're on your snows. You can usually swing free tire rotations or make a one-time investment in steel wheels for ~$200. So while the upfront capital to have 2 sets is more, over the long run there's not much difference, and you get better summer and winter grip by having specific tires for each.

    Yes, but if he has bad tires now, then got snow tires, he's still have to pay for new summer tires. Since he's in CA it's moot. Also, if car has Tire Pressure Monitoring, that jacks up the price of your other set of rims unless you A) switch them out of our current rims or B) have access to someone who will put them on sans tire pressure monitors.

  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    I live in California - so, mostly dry and a few months of rain with occasional trips to Lake Tahoe. All-seaons should be fine, and I have chains/wires for my car for when I do go to snowy areas.

    I've had pretty good luck with Bridgestone Potenzas. They were the stock tires on my Impreza and they easily lasted 55,000 miles (they still had a decent chunk of tread on them, but it's winter in Duluth, MN so I got the CWSs, which are better in snow).

    For the most part, you get what you pay for in tires. If you go supercheap, they're super cheap. I'd read the reviews on Tirerack and then see if you can get a price match at a local shop that does free rotates.



  • AspectVoidAspectVoid Registered User regular
    I like talking with the people at Tire Rack to find good tires. You can just call them up and ask them questions about tires without actually buying anything. All brands have good and bad tires, so you can't really ask "What Brand should I avoid?" You really need to do your research.

    The one thing I will say is buy the best tires you can afford. A good set of tires can save your life when things go wrong on the road. Its really not something you want to skimp out on.

    PSN|AspectVoid
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    From a practical perspective, getting at least an H rated tire with good wet ratings should be everything you need.

  • mightyjongyomightyjongyo Sour Crrm East Bay, CaliforniaRegistered User regular
    Ended up getting these. Thanks for the help everyone.

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