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  • GvzbgulGvzbgul Registered User regular
    I've heard so many horror stories concerning this con (and it's founder), that I usually just pass and wait for AWA.

    DragonCon had seperated with the founder but he still had shares in the company. Apparently it was a difficult process but as of last year he no longer has those, meaning he now has zero ties to it in theory.

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    As Gvzbgul said, Ed Kramer no longer has any ties to DragonCon. And I've been attending since 2004 and other than the immense crowds I've never had a bad experience.

    And that article did say it was non-con goers causing the trouble.

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  • FalxFalx Registered User regular
    http://youtu.be/IacSW-rmxsc

    Safety Dance meets Metal

    Yes.

    Yeessss.

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  • TankHammerTankHammer Atlanta Ghostbuster Atlanta, GARegistered User regular

    I wanna play with these guys. Way more entertaining than those obnoxious twits who usually make GTAV videos.

    Also for some reason Sips is my favorite Yogscaster lately.

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  • Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    I found this video in a thread in G&T. Absolutely amazing moves pulled off in a Chinook.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCukEYRY2ME#t=218

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  • FiendishrabbitFiendishrabbit Registered User regular
    I <3 chinook.

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    Chinook: the lovable, dependable fat kid of helicopters

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  • TheStigTheStig Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I feel like I'm in over my head with this weird ASMR listening binge I'm on

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GdjFvbvWp4

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    I feel like I'm in over my head with this weird ASMR listening binge I'm on

    pull back, Indie! pull back!

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  • Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I feel like I'm in over my head with this weird ASMR listening binge I'm on

    pull back, Indie! pull back!

    can't... too... relaxed...

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    I don't think I could be relaxed around Batman, he makes me nervous

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  • ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Yeah, you would be nervous around him.

    Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    ChicoBlue wrote: »
    Yeah, you would be nervous around him.

    Criminals are a cowardly and superstitious lot.

    They plan and plot but always get caught.

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  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    I'm not sure I remembered that right.

    My memory is shwarbage.

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  • CorehealerCorehealer The Apothecary The softer edge of the universe.Registered User regular
    Another TF2 thread crosspost:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIm1g47sbQM

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  • YaYaYaYa Decent. Registered User regular
    Corehealer wrote: »
    Another TF2 thread crosspost:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIm1g47sbQM

    I can do that but I don't wanna

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Oh my God, the extreme close ups on his lips killed me.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

    Not...especially? I mean they are pretty standard. At least the TF2 stuff anyway.

    They're well done, don't get me wrong, just.... it ain't nothing compared to feature film stuff.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Veretas wrote: »
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

    Not...especially? I mean they are pretty standard. At least the TF2 stuff anyway.

    They're well done, don't get me wrong, just.... it ain't nothing compared to feature film stuff.

    what's the going rate for animation company facial expression software

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

    Not...especially? I mean they are pretty standard. At least the TF2 stuff anyway.

    They're well done, don't get me wrong, just.... it ain't nothing compared to feature film stuff.

    what's the going rate for animation company facial expression software

    The average salary for a Senior Technical Director/Rigger, the people behind creating rigging systems on models usually, on a feature film is roughly $120k-$150k a year.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Registered User regular
    what's some impressive facial rigging you've seen, Veretas

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Veretas wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

    Not...especially? I mean they are pretty standard. At least the TF2 stuff anyway.

    They're well done, don't get me wrong, just.... it ain't nothing compared to feature film stuff.

    what's the going rate for animation company facial expression software

    The average salary for a Senior Technical Director/Rigger, the people behind creating rigging systems on models usually, on a feature film is roughly $120k-$150k a year.

    you mean it's not automated?

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    edited August 2014
    Look, the rigs on the TF2 characters are great. For the TF2 characters, which is exactly what they were made for. They aren't super high-res or complicated or need anything fancy like cloth or hair or any of that stuff. They are pretty much exactly what I see on any game character rig.
    Paladin wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

    Not...especially? I mean they are pretty standard. At least the TF2 stuff anyway.

    They're well done, don't get me wrong, just.... it ain't nothing compared to feature film stuff.

    what's the going rate for animation company facial expression software

    The average salary for a Senior Technical Director/Rigger, the people behind creating rigging systems on models usually, on a feature film is roughly $120k-$150k a year.

    you mean it's not automated?

    Hahaha noooooooooooope. Well sorta.

    See, there is an intermediate process between when the character model is created and when it is actually animated. This is called 'rigging'. A rig is basically a skeleton that is created inside the model and then the vertices on that model are all 'weighted' to a specific bone on that skeleton. This process can be somewhat automated, creating the joints and bones to fit in the model for example, and programs are getting better at setting reasonable values on all those vertices.

    But a computer is pretty dumb and can end up having stuff like the shoulder vertices being influenced by the knee bone or something, so a rigger or an animator will go in and 'paint' the weighting on the model by hand. It's a tedious process that simply just takes time, but a necessary one.

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  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Veretas wrote: »
    Look, the rigs on the TF2 characters are great. For the TF2 characters, which is exactly what they were made for. They aren't super high-res or complicated or need anything fancy like cloth or hair or any of that stuff. They are pretty much exactly what I see on any game character rig.
    Paladin wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Veretas wrote: »
    god valve's facial rigs are amazing

    Not...especially? I mean they are pretty standard. At least the TF2 stuff anyway.

    They're well done, don't get me wrong, just.... it ain't nothing compared to feature film stuff.

    what's the going rate for animation company facial expression software

    The average salary for a Senior Technical Director/Rigger, the people behind creating rigging systems on models usually, on a feature film is roughly $120k-$150k a year.

    you mean it's not automated?

    Hahaha noooooooooooope. Well sorta.

    See, there is an intermediate process between when the character model is created and when it is actually animated. This is called 'rigging'. A rig is basically a skeleton that is created inside the model and then the vertices on that model are all 'weighted' to a specific bone on that skeleton. This process can be somewhat automated, creating the joints and bones to fit in the model for example, and programs are getting better at setting reasonable values on all those vertices.

    But a computer is pretty dumb and can end up having stuff like the shoulder vertices being influenced by the knee bone or something, so a rigger or an animator will go in and 'paint' the weighting on the model by hand. It's a tedious process that simply just takes time, but a necessary one.

    I'm not experienced in source filmmaker, but given the prolific amount of amateur animators that are putting out decent video game level work (I think), and they aren't all getting paid $$$bux, doesn't that speak to the notion that the source engine rigging software is more powerful than it has a right to be?

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Yeah, compared to feature film rigs they are not very complicated. But that's also why they are so impressive. You can do animation like that flute video with a rig designed for video game models, meant to be animated in real time with tight optimization, bone and polycount limits.

    Models for CGI and such don't have to be rendered in real time so you can just have thousands of bones and morphs and super-high polycount face meshes and so on and just render your scene frame-by-frame. The fact that the TF2 characters (and most of valve's source engine character models) have facial rigs and meshes which allow near-feature film quality animation, while still keeping the complexity low enough for those models to animate in real time in a game engine is what is amazing about them. And while a lot of games these days are at that level of quality, valve made these models in 2007, in an engine they released in 2004.

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  • MugginsMuggins Registered User regular
    Yeah, compared to feature film rigs they are not very complicated. But that's also why they are so impressive. You can do animation like that flute video with a rig designed for video game models, meant to be animated in real time with tight optimization, bone and polycount limits.

    Models for CGI and such don't have to be rendered in real time so you can just have thousands of bones and morphs and super-high polycount face meshes and so on and just render your scene frame-by-frame. The fact that the TF2 characters (and most of valve's source engine character models) have facial rigs and meshes which allow near-feature film quality animation, while still keeping the complexity low enough for those models to animate in real time in a game engine is what is amazing about them. And while a lot of games these days are at that level of quality, valve made these models in 2007, in an engine they released in 2004.

    Oh yeah, this part is awesome. And absolutely correct. Though I feel like that's more attribute to Source Filmmaker itself than just the rigs. It's basically the game version of the software Pixar uses for their films.

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  • BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    Veretas wrote: »
    Yeah, compared to feature film rigs they are not very complicated. But that's also why they are so impressive. You can do animation like that flute video with a rig designed for video game models, meant to be animated in real time with tight optimization, bone and polycount limits.

    Models for CGI and such don't have to be rendered in real time so you can just have thousands of bones and morphs and super-high polycount face meshes and so on and just render your scene frame-by-frame. The fact that the TF2 characters (and most of valve's source engine character models) have facial rigs and meshes which allow near-feature film quality animation, while still keeping the complexity low enough for those models to animate in real time in a game engine is what is amazing about them. And while a lot of games these days are at that level of quality, valve made these models in 2007, in an engine they released in 2004.

    Oh yeah, this part is awesome. And absolutely correct. Though I feel like that's more attribute to Source Filmmaker itself than just the rigs. It's basically the game version of the software Pixar uses for their films.

    Yeah, SFM is pretty cool, and the animator is pretty good too.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    I was expecting them to add in some explosions...

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