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Student Loan Payment Advice

Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
I don't want to go into too much detail, but I've got a student loan I've got to pay off and want to figure out how to get it knocked-out in the fastest way possible so I can actually keep the money I earn. Anyone have tips, tricks, pointers, or massive amounts of excess wealth they're giving away?

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  • CycloneRangerCycloneRanger Registered User regular
    There are no tricks to use; you just pay as much as you can towards the highest-interest loan (while meeting the minimum payments on everything else) until it's gone and then repeat for the next-highest-interest loan.

  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    Just to tell you, the interest in your student loans is tax deductible. So assuming your interest rates on your student loan debt is about the same as any other debts, you're probably better off paying off other debts first.

    I haven't had anything to manage for my student loans in a while, but back when I graduated consolidation was a good idea. You locked in a lower rate, and that rate was further discounted if you made the first few payments on time and if you signed up for automatic monthly ACH payments... don't know if that's still a thing.

    If consolidation is still a thing it might pay to wait until around July, when the annual consolidation rates are set. You should be able to get a good idea if next years rates will be lower or higher than the previous year's.

  • kaliyamakaliyama Left to find less-moderated fora Registered User regular
    Maximize income and minimize expenses. I found http://nomoreharvarddebt.com helpful.

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  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    I've heard that sometimes lenders will forgive the rest of your loan if you pay a large enough amount of it at once. Does anyone know someone who has done that?

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    I've heard that sometimes lenders will forgive the rest of your loan if you pay a large enough amount of it at once. Does anyone know someone who has done that?

    That tends to only happen with collection agencies and how much you can save depends a lot on the holder of the debt.

    Also, student loan interest is only deductible if you make under a certain amount of money, and then there's a hard cutoff

    also FWIW, even if you can negotiate a reduction in the amount due by paying lump sum, sometimes that gets marked on your credit differently than had you just paid it outright

    can't remember the exact terminology

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  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »
    I've heard that sometimes lenders will forgive the rest of your loan if you pay a large enough amount of it at once. Does anyone know someone who has done that?

    not with student loans.

  • SynonymSynonym Registered User regular
    I realized that everything over my base payment was effectively applied directly to principal, and that really helped me get motivated to put everything I could (even small amounts) against the loan. Those little extras go a long way - even if it amounts to only one 'regular' payment in the year, the effect that can have on how quickly you're done and overall interest paid can be substantial.

  • Hexmage-PAHexmage-PA Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Fuck it, I'll just spill the details. Long story short, I went to art school one year before transferring out. I also was (and really still am) ignorant as to how finances work. My dad set-up these loans for me and I've been paying them, but I'm starting to doubt that he knows the best way to handle this. I don't really know what I'm doing either, though, so I'd appreciate if you guys could help me out.

    Private Loan 1
    • Interest Rate: 5.42%
    • Original Amount: $40,861.77
    • Principal Paid: $2,581.87
    • Interest Paid: $6,502.46
    • Principal Balance: $50,290.40

    Private Loan 2
    • Interest Rate: 9.75%
    • Original Amount: $41,721.92
    • Principal Paid: $1,657.61
    • Interest Paid: $12,246.26
    • Principal Balance: $53,866.15

    Payment History (Last 5 Payments)
    • 2/27/2014. $816.39 total paid. $45.45 principal paid. $770.94 interest paid. $104,156.55 balance.
    • 1/21/2014. $816.39 total paid. $202.89 principal paid. $613.50 interest paid. $104,202.00 balance.
    • 12/24/2013. $823.56 total paid. $361.45 principal paid. $462.11 interest paid. $104,404.89 balance.
    • 12/03/2013. $823.56 total paid. $249.26 principal paid. $574.30 interest paid. $104, 766.34 balance.
    • 11/08/2013. $823.56 total paid. $52.16 principal paid. $771.40 interest paid. $105,015.60 balance.

    As for cash on hand, I currently have nearly $16,000 in the bank.

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  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    you're not going to resolve that for 16k

    you probably wont even resolve one of them for 16k

    Loan 1 is decent.

    Loan 2 is nightmarish and you have a lot of options there because the interest is so high

    If your credit is good you could refi the whole thing to about 6%

    You could secure a lower interest collateralized loan from a bank with your 16k savings, then take that loan money and pay off some of Loan 2

    or you could just give them the 16 grand directly

    I would try to get that 9% one re-financed, and if you can't then just pay the everloving shit out of it.

    and put Loan 1 on interest bearing deferment, pay the interest on time, and take all your money and get rid of Loan 2 ASAP

    Wells Fargo is one of the few banks who still does student loan/reconsolidation related work. If you walk in there with 16 grand, you'll at least be able to talk someone and ask questions. I recommend making an appointment.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Do you have any other debt? If so what's the interest rate on it?

    If it were me and I didn't have any other debt I'd probably keep 3-6k in the bank depending on monthly expenses, put the rest of that immediately toward the higher interest loan, and then every month pay the minimum on the lower interest loan and put however much more I could afford on the higher. That's the fastest way to pay down any debt as you will minimize the interest that way.

    As an aside it's confusing from your description but was the 80k in loans just for the one year of art school?

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  • Jebus314Jebus314 Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    Just a couple things to add to Jasconius mostly correct post. You definitely want to check your options for that high interest rate loan. I'm not really an expert here but I would start first by going to your lender and asking if they have any refinance options, or rewards programs. Sometimes they will do things like give you an interest discount for signing up for automatic withdrawals. Second you can look into loan consolidation, or finding other loan sources that offer lower interests, with this one important caveat. I would not transfer a federal student loan to a private student loan. This includes consolidation. Federal student loans have a ton of extra benefits (like mandatory payment deferral options) if money ever becomes tight, where as private student loans will just fuck you over.

    As for you 16K in savings, I would calculate how much your monthly expenses are, and factor in any large purchases you think you might have in the near future (new car, house downpayment, first/last/security for moving to new apartment, ect..) and keep at least 3 months worth of expenses (plus extra for large upcoming items) then drop the rest on the high interest loan.

    Just to make it abundantly clear though, private students loans are MUCH LESS SAFE than federal student loans. Unless you have rock solid job security, or the private loan is offering to more than half your interest rate, I would not transfer a federal loan over to a private loan.

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  • DaenrisDaenris Registered User regular
    Based on his post it sounds like they're already private loans. In that case, at least in my experience with large private student loans, most consolidation options go completely out the window. By all means talk to your lender and bank and whoever about options, but I wouldn't hold my breath expecting much.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    yeah, don't move a federal loan over to a private loan

    however, at 9%, I don't see any way that can be a federal loan

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Jasconius wrote: »
    yeah, don't move a federal loan over to a private loan

    however, at 9%, I don't see any way that can be a federal loan

    Yup that looks like private student loan numbers.

    Pay that one of asap, like, drop all your extra money on that one and pay the minimum on the other. If the other one has a minimum of $200, pay that and drop the $1400 a month on the private loans. Get a second job if you need to and sock away 100% of that income into the private loans.

    Why you ask? Because private loans will absolutely rape your ass with a bat wrapped in barbed wire. Federal loans tend to be a lot more forgiving and there's a lot of programs for not being able to afford debt there. Private loans have no such concern, and in fact, it is way more beneficial for you to default because they get money from the government (because they're the guarantor) and they can come after you legally for defaulting. So they get to double dip. What's great is that once you've defaulted, Sallie Mae (which I'm assuming that's who that 9% loan is through) actually owns the debt collection company too. So not only do they get to double dip, but they get to charge you a fee for taking over the loan for Sallie Mae (10% I think). Yeah I'm not even joking. I think it's called GRC debt management or something.

    I'll actually disagree with @deebaser. They will settle with you. But you'll have to be already defaulted, and probably have already been on a chapter 13 bankruptcy for 5 years already. Maybe they'll knock 25% off it for you.

    Keep that $16000 in the bank for now. But definitely slam as much towards the private student loan as you can muster. Even if it means living at home with your parents and eating ramen noodles for 3 years and letting your hair grown long.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ThunderSaidThunderSaid Registered User regular
    Hexmage-PA wrote: »

    Payment History (Last 5 Payments)
    • 2/27/2014. $816.39 total paid. $45.45 principal paid. $770.94 interest paid. $104,156.55 balance.
    • 1/21/2014. $816.39 total paid. $202.89 principal paid. $613.50 interest paid. $104,202.00 balance.
    • 12/24/2013. $823.56 total paid. $361.45 principal paid. $462.11 interest paid. $104,404.89 balance.
    • 12/03/2013. $823.56 total paid. $249.26 principal paid. $574.30 interest paid. $104, 766.34 balance.
    • 11/08/2013. $823.56 total paid. $52.16 principal paid. $771.40 interest paid. $105,015.60 balance.

    As for cash on hand, I currently have nearly $16,000 in the bank.

    Two things:

    1 - What the heck is going on in November and February? Specifically, why did only ~$50 go to the principal in those months? If I were you, I'd find out the answer to that question and do whatever I could to maximize the amount going toward the principal every payment. That's really the secret to paying off loans faster - maximize the amount that gets paid to the principal. Every time you put a little more toward the principal, your future interest is calculated against a lower amount, meaning the same payment amount will pay off more principal in the future...lower interest calculation...success.

    2 - That said, I would hang onto all or at least most of that $16000 for now. $16000 in available cash is a good thing to have going for you in a lot of situations. Instead, I would look at some of the refinancing suggestions in this thread and see if any of those can be done to get rid of that higher interest rate.

  • DeebaserDeebaser on my way to work in a suit and a tie Ahhhh...come on fucking guyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    In my experience, private lenders wont chase you, they will pursue you like a slow moving zombie horde. In most cases you can't discharge the debt, so even if the bank is hard up for liquidity (LOLOLOLOL), they can just sell your deadbeat ass to another lender and wait until you're situated enough to either garnish wages or collect from your estate.

    I have never heard of anyone successfully 'negotiating' a lower payoff with their student loan lender, but anecdotes, lol.


    Also, I'll but against the thread and say you really should take that $16000 and make as large of a payment as you can* towards loan 2. Holy shit. Hell, just putting $10,000 of it towards that loan will save you $1000 the first year in interest!



    *While still maintaining an emergency fund

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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I have never heard of anyone successfully 'negotiating' a lower payoff with their student loan lender, but anecdotes, lol.
    I have but it always involves some advanced form of tom foolery.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    zepherin wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I have never heard of anyone successfully 'negotiating' a lower payoff with their student loan lender, but anecdotes, lol.
    I have but it always involves some advanced form of tom foolery.

    Yeah I have personal experience with them and I had a certified letter from sallie mae telling me they'd knock off $1000 from my loans if I paid it in full within a week.

    Yeah $1000 sure makes a difference, thanks guy. Though among my circle of friends, they most assuredly have gone down to 25% if you go long enough. But boy does it fuck your credit.

    bowen on
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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    zepherin wrote: »
    Deebaser wrote: »
    I have never heard of anyone successfully 'negotiating' a lower payoff with their student loan lender, but anecdotes, lol.
    I have but it always involves some advanced form of tom foolery.

    Yeah I have personal experience with them and I had a certified letter from sallie mae telling me they'd knock off $1000 from my loans if I paid it in full within a week.

    Yeah $1000 sure makes a difference, thanks guy. Though among my circle of friends, they most assuredly have gone down to 25% if you go long enough. But boy does it fuck your credit.
    Yeah, hell missing a payment fucks dings your credit hard. It's all late payment times 8 loans. Yeesh.

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