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Who is the Winter Soldier? (And other [Superhero Movies])

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    villains plural
    Loki was pretty good

    Red Skull was okay if not great
    and I mean there's been eight MCU films and a tv show, that isnt a great track record

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I am SUPER impatient to see Spader's Ultron.

    Ultron could be so fantastic or he could be super dull.

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I really like Blonsky and I thought Tim Roth was the only actor in that movie who I would like to see reprise his role from that movie

    If we could get a remake of it but with Mark Ruffalo instead of Edward Norton, that's probably a movie I would see

    (on that note let's do more of what Incredible Hulk did with Lou Ferrigno in the MCU. Whenever Hulk says anything, have him be the one who says it)

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I was agreeing!

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  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    i liked roth and norton both
    roth should totally be a recurring actor

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    -Tal wrote: »
    the mcu in general hasn't really had great villains
    Loki
    Red Skull
    uh

    Probably Thanos???

    I thought the red skull was super weak actually

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Malekith was a pretty effective villain, though not just super great

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    I really like Blonsky and I thought Tim Roth was the only actor in that movie who I would like to see reprise his role from that movie

    If we could get a remake of it but with Mark Ruffalo instead of Edward Norton, that's probably a movie I would see

    (on that note let's do more of what Incredible Hulk did with Lou Ferrigno in the MCU. Whenever Hulk says anything, have him be the one who says it)
    Avengers was a blend of Ruffalo and Ferrigno.

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  • Ad astraAd astra Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    -Tal wrote: »
    the mcu in general hasn't really had great villains

    Loki is great, and I loved Hugo Weaving haming it up as the Red Skull. I also liked Ivan Vanko even though he was underutilized.

    I'd say the weakest Villain so far is Malekith, that guy was just there so Thor could punch sombody.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Malekith was a pretty effective villain, though not just super great
    Well all of the villains except Hammer came close to killing the hero so they're all effective.

    Malekith was just super bland.

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Wait, do we suddenly not like Stane?

    Is it because he didn't pull out the baby gambit?

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  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I really liked Toby Jones' Zola

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  • WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    I don't mean effective as in he was a good fighter

    I mean he was a credible threat at all times and I was able to keep up with his motivation in every scene

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Actually I liked Killian a bunch. Not as much as Loki/Skull but above the rest.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    I'd count the mandarin as a good villain too, maybe stane

    malekith was really the one that struck me as a totally generic bad guy who could have been replaced with anyone

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    villains plural
    Loki was pretty good

    Red Skull was okay if not great
    and I mean there's been eight MCU films and a tv show, that isnt a great track record

    And Loki was the villain in three of them.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Stane was fun to watch because <3 Jeff Bridges but as an actual villain I thought he was meh

    SURPRISE I'M AN EVIL ARMS DEALER

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    villains plural
    Loki was pretty good

    Red Skull was okay if not great
    and I mean there's been eight MCU films and a tv show, that isnt a great track record

    And Loki was the villain in three of them.
    Two, Malekith is the villain of Thor 2.

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  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    villains plural
    Loki was pretty good

    Red Skull was okay if not great
    and I mean there's been eight MCU films and a tv show, that isnt a great track record

    And Loki was the villain in three of them.

    well he wasn't exactly a villain in the dark world

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  • CrimsondudeCrimsondude Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Antimatter wrote: »
    villains plural
    Loki was pretty good

    Red Skull was okay if not great
    and I mean there's been eight MCU films and a tv show, that isnt a great track record

    And Loki was the villain in three of them.
    Two, Malekith is the villain of Thor 2.

    I know what I said.

  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Stane was fun to watch because <3 Jeff Bridges but as an actual villain I thought he was meh

    SURPRISE I'M AN EVIL ARMS DEALER

    Ok... But suppose he had pulled a baby out of the wall to use as a hostage against Tony.

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Stane was fun to watch because <3 Jeff Bridges but as an actual villain I thought he was meh

    SURPRISE I'M AN EVIL ARMS DEALER

    It could have been interesting to see them play up the idea that Tony wasn't really worthy of running Stark Industries, wining and dining around the world and generally just being worthless

    They sort of hinted at it a bit with Stane's disdain towards Tony in the third act, but that being his primary motivator instead of "ALSO I SELL GUNS TO TERRORISTS" would have been neat.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Why do superhero movies in general feel like they need to have evil businessman-man

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    ....go on.

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I liked Hugo Weaving playing the Red Skull but the characterization didn't capture as much of the stuff that I find terrifying about him as I would have liked

  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Why do superhero movies in general feel like they need to have evil businessman-man

    So you're saying they shouldn't have any businessmen at all?

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Antimatter wrote: »
    i liked roth and norton both
    roth should totally be a recurring actor

    I did like Norton

    I just like Ruffalo a lot more in that role

    But yeah, Roth should totally come back around

  • -Tal-Tal Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Stane was fun to watch because <3 Jeff Bridges but as an actual villain I thought he was meh

    SURPRISE I'M AN EVIL ARMS DEALER

    I think that's exactly who the villain of iron man should be, because that's who tony was before he became iron man

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Oh, yeah, lets not forget the best Iron Man villain, Justin Hammer.

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    A duck! wrote: »
    Why do superhero movies in general feel like they need to have evil businessman-man

    So you're saying they shouldn't have any businessmen at all?

    Tony is very clearly a good-aligned businessperson

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Which is fine but he was a very generic evil arms dealer.

    Like his motivation is SELL WEAPONS MAKE WAR MAKE PROFIT

    I think (Iron Man 3 Spoilers)
    Killian is a far better, more interesting version of the same basic character

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  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    ....go on.
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  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    A duck! wrote: »
    Why do superhero movies in general feel like they need to have evil businessman-man

    So you're saying they shouldn't have any businessmen at all?

    Tony is very clearly a good-aligned businessperson

    He doesn't even work!

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    something i'm grumpy about
    one thing i really liked about iron man 3 was
    ted sallis (man-thing)'s wife was in it, she was the extremis lady with the scarred face that attacked tony at the diner and killed people horribly and died horribly
    i thought it meant that marvel had the rights to man-thing, and it made me happy, because he's a perfect fit
    he's a guy that experimented on the super soldier serum and it'd be perfect

    NOPE, lionsgate owns the movie rights to him because of that godawful sci-fi movie, the one thing I liked about iron man 3 besides rhodey is no longer valid

  • AntimatterAntimatter Devo Was Right Gates of SteelRegistered User regular
    Blankzilla wrote: »
    Which is fine but he was a very generic evil arms dealer.

    Like his motivation is SELL WEAPONS MAKE WAR MAKE PROFIT

    I think (Iron Man 3 Spoilers)
    Killian is a far better, more interesting version of the same basic character

    disagree

  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    Why do superhero movies in general feel like they need to have evil businessman-man

    The zeitgeist, I guess
    In this day and age some of the most visible villains we as a culture can actually point to and say "these people are doing bad things" are corrupt amoral businessmen

  • BucketmanBucketman Call me SkraggRegistered User regular
    I have never heard of divergent

    Neither had I until the poster ads started cropping up. Something about a futuristic society that divides people into factions based on personality traits, I dunno. They're based on a series of books, what I will say is that in the interview I read the writer of said books seemed pretty nice and is a Young Adult fiction writer who is actually, you know, a young adult.

    No its way dumber then that. Basically theres 5 casts based on personality and function: The smart science people, the people who tend the fields and grow food, the crazy parkour police force, the people who "always tell the truth, even when you don't want them to" and a cast that lives in poverty and helps the needy and runs the government.

    Basically, when you turn 16 you take an apatitude test to determine where you belong, but then the next day you get to decide. 90% of all people chose the caste of their birth but our main character doesn't really understand how to help people like her parents do and wants to be a fun jump cop. But when she takes her test
    SHES A DIVERGENT! one who doesn't just fit into a single caste but could be in multiple. Which for some reason makes he dangerous and if anyone finds out they will kill her. She choses to be a jump cop and everyone is an asshole including neck tattoo Macklemore and she sort of falls for this awkward guy whos her superior and is like 30 maybe? Anyway a bunch of dumb stuff happens and then WAR and no not sex I want to go slow and my biggest fear is rape and then theres some Inceptions dream and fear stuff and people figure her out and blah blah blah war and then the end.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    A duck! wrote: »
    A duck! wrote: »
    Why do superhero movies in general feel like they need to have evil businessman-man

    So you're saying they shouldn't have any businessmen at all?

    Tony is very clearly a good-aligned businessperson

    He doesn't even work!

    Pepper then

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    I want to watch a show called Jump Cops

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