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Diablo 3 - Patch 2.1 right now! Great Rifts! Gems! Seasons now!

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    unintentionally

    or intentionally so you go buy reaper of soooooouuullllls

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    rhylithrhylith Death Rabbits HoustonRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    That actually makes a whole lot of sense.

    Basically it sounds like we won't have this problem anymore in a couple weeks

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    yeah, its the same kind of cycle wow goes through with a pre-expansion balancing patch

    some stuff gets weaker to re-balance for the new cap or stuff gets overlooked because it will be moot soonish

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    It feels like an oversight. Why would they not rebalance a tier of items to be level 60?

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    NoisymunkNoisymunk Registered User regular
    Zek wrote: »
    It feels like an oversight. Why would they not rebalance a tier of items to be level 60?

    Because in a few weeks, Level 60 will simply be a signpost on your way to 70.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Kinda sucks for anyone who wanted to keep playing but couldn't afford the expansion.

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    NoisymunkNoisymunk Registered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Kinda sucks for anyone who wanted to keep playing but couldn't afford the expansion.

    At least they aren't charging monthly AND pricing the expansion at 50 bucks like they are with WoW.

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    WaltWalt Waller Arcane Enchanted Frozen ElectrifiedRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    Kinda sucks for anyone who wanted to keep playing but couldn't afford the expansion.
    I imagine that all three of those people probably don't particularly care about optimal DPS.

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    ultimakayultimakay Registered User regular
    I put over 100 hours into the game before patch 2.0 and I liked the game a lot but damn it is so much better now. Part of that might be that I absolutely love the changes to wizard, I basically stopped playing my wizard at lvl 56 cause even to survive I had to have 3 defensive skills and basically use the 3 best offensive skills to be able to deal damage because I wasn't using the auction house. Came back after the patch and had so much fun being able to actually use any of the skills that I wanted to without just getting stomped over and over.

    Now I am working on getting every class to 60, just have a 22 demon hunter and a 36 monk I need to level then ill be all set for the expansion.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    that 2H change seems

    poorly thought out

    oh well I guess I'll be able to line the stash with brimstone

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    I agree it is not optimal for people like me unlikely to pick up the x-pack any time soon. But then again, I feel if I bought D3 fresh today, I could still get my moneys worth of play out of it and obviously you can hit at least torment-1 with the way things are now.

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    M.D.M.D. and then what happens? Registered User regular
    So I think my problem with torment on my monk is that I have something like 45k dps and 900k toughness, I became a tank

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    NogginNoggin Registered User regular
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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    I don't think I have found a single piece of jewelry with crit on it

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    IncindiumIncindium Registered User regular
    Jars wrote: »
    I don't think I have found a single piece of jewelry with crit on it

    Think it may be on legendary jewelry only? My Leoric's has Crit Chance and my Haunt of Vaxo has both Crit Chance and Damage.

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    I wonder if wizards can find zunimassa items. I still wear the 2 piece

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    Incindium wrote: »
    Jars wrote: »
    I don't think I have found a single piece of jewelry with crit on it

    Think it may be on legendary jewelry only? My Leoric's has Crit Chance and my Haunt of Vaxo has both Crit Chance and Damage.

    I managed to roll an amulet of dex with 7.5% crit chance

    it's possible I think it's just really ridiculously rare now

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    I found a tals orb on my witch doctor so there is no reason why you couldn't find zuni's as a wizard

    also: crusader looks neat but going by looking over the skills my initial impression is wow they didn't really try to make a new class they just made paladin again

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    yeah it's just another annoying thing on the checklist of stuff I don't like about loot 2.0. how am I supposed to use apoc or nightstalker if nothing has any crit?

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    Lord DaveLord Dave Grief Causer Bitch Free ZoneRegistered User regular
    Anybody got a list of the health/damage percentage increases per difficulty level?

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    jars I feel like you're playing nega-loot 2.0

    I agree with you that crit is somewhat harder to find, but it still exists. can you craft any of the archon gear? I made myself crit chance/crit dmg/int gloves that way.

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    ColumnColumn Registered User regular
    Some of you probably care about this.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    oh wow that first crusader passive

    also I'm still not sure I quite understand the crusader resource

    is it just like a slightly slower generating hatred?

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    el_vicioel_vicio Registered User regular
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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    I'm wondering more about laws

    45 second cd for a 5-second duration (10 with passive) seems a little much, though I guess you do get some absurd bonuses on the active with those runes

    and also I found a mace that gives a crusader a random law every 60 seconds, does that mean I can't use that mace if I have a law on my bar? or does that circumvent the 1 active law at a time? or does only one law being active just mean you can have as many passive ones up as you want, but can only activate one at a time?

    third one sounds most likely to me now that I think about it otherwise there'd be issues with multiple crusaders

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    edited March 2014
    laws look like they work exactly the same as mantras in that active means on your bar and you can't even put a second one on your bar period

    So that mace probably means that if you have a law on your bar then the mace does nothing OR you can have two passive effects up, one from the law on your bar and one from the mace, but obviously you could only use the active of the one on yoru bar

    My guess would be the second, because there is some new monk legendary or set or something that makes a mantra be all mantras right?

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    yeah the Inna's 4-set bonus now gives you the passive effects of all four mantras, regardless of if you have one on the bar or not

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    oh hmm

    well however the innas thing works is probably how the mace will work would be my guess

    I'm sure somebody has gotten all 4 pieces in the two weeks since 2.0 came out

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Brolo wrote: »
    M.D. wrote: »
    is having magic find still worth it on items, and do paragon levels grant increased gold/magic find still or is that gone now?

    edit- nevermind I think it's gone since one of the new paragon perk things is in gold find.

    absolutely not worth it

    not only can you not stack a whole lot of it, it only works at a fraction of how effective it used to be

    I don't know what the numbers are on this, but I'm at about 120% magic find with leftovers from before the patch and pretty much everything that drops is a yellow on my Demon Hunter.

    The rest of my characters see primarily blues.

    This could potentially be linked to their respective levels, since only my DH is 60.

    But until I know for sure, I'm keepin' that magics findz.

    Somebody help a lazy man out and show me math formulas that prove this is a dumb idea.

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    drp527drp527 We sacrifice our own That more may rise in their placeRegistered User regular
    sarukun wrote: »
    Brolo wrote: »
    M.D. wrote: »
    is having magic find still worth it on items, and do paragon levels grant increased gold/magic find still or is that gone now?

    edit- nevermind I think it's gone since one of the new paragon perk things is in gold find.

    absolutely not worth it

    not only can you not stack a whole lot of it, it only works at a fraction of how effective it used to be

    I don't know what the numbers are on this, but I'm at about 120% magic find with leftovers from before the patch and pretty much everything that drops is a yellow on my Demon Hunter.

    The rest of my characters see primarily blues.

    This could potentially be linked to their respective levels, since only my DH is 60.

    But until I know for sure, I'm keepin' that magics findz.

    Somebody help a lazy man out and show me math formulas that prove this is a dumb idea.

    magic find has less effectiveness as you go up rarity levels

    like I think they said you only get ~50% of your mf towards rares, and 10% towards legendaries

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    sarukunsarukun RIESLING OCEANRegistered User regular
    Innnnnteresting.

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    Al_watAl_wat Registered User regular
    I really love all the + skills dmg and + (cold, fire, arcane, etc) dmg drops

    With a few lucky drops you can come up with devastating unconventional builds.

    Or really overpower a common skill - I had a +arcane orb helm and two + cold skills items and I was murdering everything with frozen orbs

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    JarsJars Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    jars I feel like you're playing nega-loot 2.0

    I agree with you that crit is somewhat harder to find, but it still exists. can you craft any of the archon gear? I made myself crit chance/crit dmg/int gloves that way.

    I have decent legacy gear, and everything that drops in 2.0 is a big step down from it because it's capped at 4 main stats instead of 6.

    by the way if you want cash flawless square diamonds are selling for 60k each

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    Goose!Goose! That's me, honey Show me the way home, honeyRegistered User regular
    Help I can't stop finding really good amulets. Found a Tal's two days ago that I used, a moonlight ward yesterday that I gave to a fellow adventurer, and now today an even better Tal's

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    oh hey yeah gems are pretty nuts right now all around

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    ZekZek Registered User regular
    You should unload any and all crafting mats and gems you might have before the AH closes. It's all going for good money and worthless in RoS.

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    MorivethMoriveth BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWN BREAKDOWNRegistered User regular
    Wait, are they abandoning the crafting stuff in RoS?

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    QuantumTurkQuantumTurk Registered User regular
    edited March 2014
    ...Surely people are not buying crafting mats for real money, right?

    To answer Mori, my understanding is that 60+ will drop marquise or better, and whole new levels of crafting mats.

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    Moriveth wrote: »
    Wait, are they abandoning the crafting stuff in RoS?

    basically

    look at the average recipe for the smith to make level 70 gear, not seeing a lot of demon tears or blue dust or brimstone

    unless they made a way to combine existing mats into the new mats like jewel combining

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
    Current WD:

    Doing about 200K damage with +39% bonus to fire skills (and i'm only using fire skills)
    700K toughness with 30% damage reduction thanks to uhkapian serpent

    had one death yesterday due to a frozen vortex arcane combo, other than that been able to go through T3 and just firebatting everything to death

    Want to complete my fire/fetish build

    Got a magefist [+19% fire]
    Got a Warzechian Armbands [+20% fire]

    Items on my wishlist:

    Cindercoat + 10% fire bonus
    Ammy + 20% Fire bonus - Ideally Ess Of Johan
    Head: + 15% Firebats - Ideally Mask of Jeram / Zuni's
    Boots + 15% Firebats - Ideally Zuni's
    Mojo + 15% Firebats - ideally Uhkapian /Zuni's

    1h - Starmetal Kukri

    I want to be summoning fetishes constantly, doing huge amounts of firebats damage, and then having those fetishes last so I can build up a huge army of them
    then I can get Big Bad Voodoo, which will increase attack speed, and the starmetal kukri will cause BBV to cool down super quick so I can have it up all the time




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