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nursery rhymes

bongibongi regular
edited April 2007 in Social Entropy++
has anyone else ever noticed that there are quite a good number of fairly macabre nursery rhymes?

the famous one is

ring a ring a roses
a pocket full of posies
atishoo atishoo
we all fall down


which is about the black death (the ring of roses represents the rash that victims had)

but there's others too

"oranges and lemons" sing the bells of st clements
"you owe me five farthings" sings the bells of st martins
"when will you pay me?" sing the bells of old bailey
"when i grow rich" sing the bells of shoreditch
"when will that be?" sing the bells of stepney
"i do not know" sings the great bell of bow
here comes the candle to light you to bed
here comes the chopper to chop off your head!
chip chop chip chop
the last man's dead!


completely harmless until the end when it suddenly becomes really dark

the most bizarre of all though has to be

it's raining it's pouring
the old man is snoring
he went to bed and bumped his head
and didn't wake up in the morning


so macabre! and yet i didn't noticed until like a few days ago

does anyone else know any macabre nursery rhymes or the stories behind them? i just think it's pretty weird we happily teach these happy sounding tunes to kids when the lyrics are so dark

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    ring a ring a roses
    a pocket full of posies
    atishoo atishoo
    we all fall down



    I always thought it was ashes ashes as a reference to burning corpses

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The kids must learn that life is terrible somehow. If not for Nursery Rhymes, we might have to take a knife to their genitals.

    Wait a second..

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited April 2007
    i've always known it as atishoo in reference to the sneezing of victims with the plague

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Yeah that plague was a long time ago

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  • PakuPaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    there once was a man from nantucket

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Staleghoti wrote: »
    ring a ring a roses
    a pocket full of posies
    atishoo atishoo
    we all fall down



    I always thought it was ashes ashes as a reference to burning corpses

    Maybe this is one of those "bongi is really really british" things.

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  • The GeekThe Geek Oh-Two Crew, Omeganaut Registered User, ClubPA regular
    edited April 2007
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  • FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    bongi wrote: »
    i've always known it as atishoo in reference to the sneezing of victims with the plague

    Your wrong about this, but i can't remember why

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mrpaku wrote: »
    there once was a man from nantucket

    Please explain this man's super powers. I must know!

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  • Sir Red of the MantiSir Red of the Manti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mrpaku wrote: »
    there once was a man from nantucket
    Hickory-dickory-cock!

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  • mackingtheknifemackingtheknife __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    i don't say "atishoo" when i sneeze

    there is clearly something wrong with me

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  • Jermaine ChampaigneJermaine Champaigne __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    Karf wrote: »
    The kids must learn that life is terrible somehow. If not for Nursery Rhymes, we might have to take a knife to their genitals.

    Wait a second..

    man, don't be peddaling your foreskin agenda in here

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  • burntashburntash Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    hey hey hey
    you might be gay
    its not okay
    its not my way
    but until that day
    all i will say
    its time to hit the hay
    now go to sleep you lil bitch


    my familys fucked up

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  • ReignerReigner Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Rockabye baby
    On the treetop
    When the wind blows
    the cradle will rock
    When the bow breaks
    the cradle will fall
    And down will come baby
    cradle and all


    ITT we throw babies off of trees.

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Yeah, it is pretty old

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  • mackingtheknifemackingtheknife __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    burntash wrote: »
    hey hey hey
    you might be gay
    its not okay
    its not my way
    but until that day
    all i will say
    its time to hit the hay
    now go to sleep you lil bitch


    my familys fucked up

    ahahahaha

    what is the tune like

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Karf wrote: »
    The kids must learn that life is terrible somehow. If not for Nursery Rhymes, we might have to take a knife to their genitals.

    Wait a second..

    man, don't be peddaling your foreskin agenda in here
    I can't help it! I always have foreskin on my brain.

    Literally. That's where they transplanted it to.

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Karf wrote: »
    mrpaku wrote: »
    there once was a man from nantucket

    Please explain this man's super powers. I must know!


    His cock was so long he could suck-it

    He said with a grin

    as he wiped off his chin

    "If my ear was a cunt, I could fuck-it"

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  • burntashburntash Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    burntash wrote: »
    hey hey hey
    you might be gay
    its not okay
    its not my way
    but until that day
    all i will say
    its time to hit the hay
    now go to sleep you lil bitch


    my familys fucked up

    ahahahaha

    what is the tune like

    goes to the sound of "shananana"

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Staleghoti wrote: »
    Karf wrote: »
    mrpaku wrote: »
    there once was a man from nantucket

    Please explain this man's super powers. I must know!


    His cock was so long he could suck-it

    He said with a grin

    as he wiped off his chin

    "If my ear was a cunt, I could fuck-it"
    I must learn from this man. Excuse me.

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited April 2007
    The Geek wrote: »

    go away geek you're not welcome here


    anyway

    what about this one

    sing a song of sixpence
    a pocket full of rye
    four and twenty blackbirds
    baked in a pie

    when the pie was opened
    the birds began to sing
    wasn't that a dainty dish
    to put before the king

    the king was in his counting house
    counting out his money
    the queen was in her parlour
    eating bread and honey

    the maid was in the garden
    counting out her clothes
    when down came a blackbird
    and pecked off her nose


    i mean seriously the maid is attacked by a rabid bird that pecks her nose off
    that is a serious and bloody injury!

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  • FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    yeah that one scared me even when i was young

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  • PakuPaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    i had a bunch of hand me down british children's books from my mom's side of the family that i grew up on

    they were all filled with incredibly macabre poems and children's stories and accompanying pictures that i think were fairly detrimental to a healthy childhood development

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  • burntashburntash Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    mrpaku wrote: »
    i had a bunch of hand me down british children's books from my mom's side of the family that i grew up on

    they were all filled with incredibly macabre poems and children's stories and accompanying pictures that i think were fairly detrimental to a healthy childhood development

    so thats where it all traces back to eh?

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  • KarfKarf The Past Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Humpty Dumpty fell down. The kings horses attempted to perform emergency surgery, but fuck man, those were horses. Horses can't use a scalpel.

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  • JordynJordyn Really, Commander? Probing Uranus. Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    it's important for children to be scared of everything around them so that we can properly control them.

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe:
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.


    "Beware the Jabberwock, my son!
    The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
    Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
    The frumious Bandersnatch!"

    He took his vorpal sword in hand:
    Long time the manxome foe he sought --
    So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
    And stood awhile in thought.

    And, as in uffish thought he stood,
    The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
    Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
    And burbled as it came!

    One, two! One, two! And through and through
    The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
    He left it dead, and with its head
    He went galumphing back.

    "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock?
    Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
    O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
    He chortled in his joy.


    `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves
    Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
    All mimsy were the borogoves,
    And the mome raths outgrabe.

    jabberwocky.jpg

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  • mackingtheknifemackingtheknife __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    all i sang when i was little was tequila or beat on the brat

    i don't even know most nursery rhymes

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  • bongibongi regular
    edited April 2007
    jack and jill went up the hill
    to fetch a pail of water
    jack fell down and broke his crown
    and jill came tumbling after


    TWO CHILDREN FALL DOWN A HILL AND ONE OF THEM CRACKS HIS SKULL OPEN

    it's so weird that these are all really dark

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  • burntashburntash Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    all i sang when i was little was tequila or beat on the brat

    i don't even know most nursery rhymes

    that reminds me, did anyone else learn drinking songs as lullabyes?

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  • FAQFAQ Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    This terrified me as a child also

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjWZnOoXXCc

    But at least it turned a generation off acid

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  • PakuPaku Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    "the witch then killed and ate all of the villagers, skinned the poor maiden's father, wore him like a coat, and was only defeated when the maiden summoned a monkey which stabbed the witch repeatedly in the throat with a knife"

    "here is a picture of the monkey desecrating the witch's corpse"

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  • StaleghotiStaleghoti Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    Ever read the original Little Red Riding Hood?

    It's like The Departed!

    Everybody gets fuckin killed!

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  • mackingtheknifemackingtheknife __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    that's why you need to watch things like this

    v34800bbrea.jpg

    bobby brown is the three blind mice
    little richard is ole king cole
    cyndi lauper is mary had a little lamb

    what more can you ask for

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  • naporeonnaporeon Seattle, WARegistered User regular
    edited April 2007
    The Geek wrote: »
    Goddamn it.

    I was typing this out, and my boss came in.

    Shit.

    But what you said, Geek.

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  • Jermaine ChampaigneJermaine Champaigne __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    Hulk Hogan as Little Jack Horner

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  • burntashburntash Registered User regular
    edited April 2007
    that's why you need to watch things like this

    v34800bbrea.jpg

    bobby brown is the three blind mice
    little richard is ole king cole
    cyndi lauper is mary had a little lamb

    what more can you ask for

    that looks like a porno

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  • mackingtheknifemackingtheknife __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    burntash wrote: »
    that's why you need to watch things like this

    v34800bbrea.jpg

    bobby brown is the three blind mice
    little richard is ole king cole
    cyndi lauper is mary had a little lamb

    what more can you ask for

    that looks like a porno

    it's better

    mackingtheknife on
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  • Jermaine ChampaigneJermaine Champaigne __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    burntash wrote: »
    that's why you need to watch things like this

    v34800bbrea.jpg

    bobby brown is the three blind mice
    little richard is ole king cole
    cyndi lauper is mary had a little lamb

    what more can you ask for

    that looks like a porno

    it's better

    I'm dying of hunger

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  • mackingtheknifemackingtheknife __BANNED USERS regular
    edited April 2007
    Hulk Hogan as Little Jack Horner

    beated

    (however jermaine loves this movie, he even refuses to give it back)

    mackingtheknife on
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