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ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
Well, not bees, wasps actually... sorry if I mislead you with the whole bee thing, wasps just didn't have the same ring to it.

Anyway, now that we are loosening the death grip that winter had on us here in New Hampshire, and I am told other places also. Soon my house and my deck will be the site of the construction of tiny new homes for wasps. In years past we had a sort of understanding, where I stayed away from them and they stayed away from me... mostly. But this year is different! Now I have a 18m old little boy, and he is ignorant of our wasp covenant!

So, I come to you fine people for advice. What can I do that will keep the wasps from setting up shop, while also not make the area a toxic waste dump for my little one whose sole life pursuit is to put the world in his mouth?

I have seen people mention Wasp Traps like this... Wasp Trap or more fancy glass versions of the same...

I saw somewhere that you can spray surfaces with soapy water, or even set up fake wasp nests with crumpled paper bags hung from string to deter the buggers.

Anyone ever use any of these with any success, or perhaps have some sage advice on the topic?

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  • DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    unfortunately the best success for the nest that popped up in my eaves was a chemical treatment by an exterminator. They basically just shot a white powder at the entrance the wasps were using and they all died off or left. I haven't seen any for the past three years since then, but we've also had a couple of fake wasp nests hanging up which I doubt the effects of but it makes the GF feel better.

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  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    What I've done in the past is utilize nighttime guerrilla chemical warfare tactics. Wait for the hive to rest at night. The sneak up with some wasp killing chemicals. Spray the shit out of the hive. Strategic and totally manly retreat - from the chemicals, not the wasps, obviously. Problem solved!

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    What I've done in the past is utilize nighttime guerrilla chemical warfare tactics. Wait for the hive to rest at night. The sneak up with some wasp killing chemicals. Spray the shit out of the hive. Strategic and totally manly retreat - from the chemicals, not the wasps, obviously. Problem solved!

    Best solution. Under the deck in a hard to reach place? Get an exterminator.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    Yeah, I have an exterminator on retainer. So its super easy to call him out anytime to kill an existing nest.

    However I was hoping to prevent them from setting up shop in the first place.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • KhavallKhavall British ColumbiaRegistered User regular
    The fake wasp nest thing totally works, and there are commercial variants to them that work super well, and aren't too expensive.

    Unfortunately, they only work as preventative measures... if you've already got wasps there you'll need to go the exterminator route.

    The reason the fake nest works is that wasps are super territorial and would rather not fight another colony while setting up shop. So if they're cruising into a place and see a big, established nest already there, they basically go "Oh shit! Those guys can fuck us up, let's go elsewhere"

  • L Ron HowardL Ron Howard The duck MinnesotaRegistered User regular
    Oh I misinterpreted what you typed, Thundyr.

    Maybe make some spiderbro friends? Spiders eat wasps, right?

  • CreaganCreagan Registered User regular
    We had such a bad wasp problem at one point that a seasoned exterminator said there was nothing he could do and was visibly freaked out. A week later, a skunk destroyed the hornets nest, ate all the larva, and they haven't been back since.

    Perhaps you could attempt to obtain a hungry skunk?

  • Eat it You Nasty Pig.Eat it You Nasty Pig. tell homeland security 'we are the bomb'Registered User regular
    of course, then you'll have to invest in some cougars to control your skunk problem

    hold your head high soldier, it ain't over yet
    that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    And then a pair of pool boys to take care of the cougars.

  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    Haha! Thanks for the advice. I feel like having my deck crawling with predatory spider skunks and cougars may be worse then wasp nests.

    Its still early in the season, so no nests yet. But assuredly that will not last. We have been in the house for 5 years now, and last year was the worst with like 5 nests popping up. They love to make a nest under the railings where I cant see them until its too late!

    I am going to give the fake nests a try and see how that goes. If that still does not work then maybe the spider skunks.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    Also just give a looksee every week or two, as you can usually nip it in the bud pretty quickly.

  • November FifthNovember Fifth Registered User regular
    Wasp traps can be semi-effective, but you need the right kind of bait. Some like sugary liquids, while others are drawn to proteins.

    Be sure to actually hang the wasp traps up if you go that route. The spider skunks racoons will get in to them otherwise.

    A mix of soap and water in a spray bottle will kill individual wasps non-toxically, but won't do much to the nest.

    If you can locate nests, you can poison them, but those suckers can be hard to find. They can be up in the eaves of your house, even inside the attic.

  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    Thanks for the Tip November. I did see that wasps prefer protein early i the season and sugar later on. So i guess i finally found a use for all those jugs of blood of my enemies i have lying around...

    I generally know where the nests are. Its the deck out back, they like to set up under the hand railings and some under the overhang.

    As for the soap thing. I saw somewhere that spraying the surfaces with soapy water would discourage them from starting the nests in a treated area. Does anyone know if that is true? Or if there is another thing i can spray like mint extract or something like that? That would be ideal if i could treat the desk so they never set up shop in the first place.

    I would douse the thing with poison, but my son touches all things.

  • Bliss 101Bliss 101 Registered User regular
    Soap water sounds like it'd be worth a try. They use a kind of resin to attach their nests; maybe it doesn't attach to a soapy surface? Doesn't cost much, in any case.

    I'm sceptical about the fake nests. Or at least it probably depends on the species of wasp. Our old summer house had a massive wasp population, and they'd often build nests right next to each other in the attic, close enough that they'd merge into one big nest as they grew.

    I've tried all kinds of DIY wasp traps, and while this resulted in some dead worker wasps, I can't say it did anything about our wasp problem. The insecticide will probably kill the workers before they bring it to the nest, and apparently wasp colonies are smart enough to stop coming to the trap once word gets around that nobody ever returns. Not that the traps were ever super popular to begin with it. It turns out wasps prefer to catch insects throughout most of the lifetime of the colony, because wasp larvae are able to efficiently metabolize chitin into sugar, which they then regurgitate back for the adult wasps.

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