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Sgt. Superhero Thread: The Spring Spoilers

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  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I'm watching the Assembling a Universe thing, because I missed it when it aired and I need an MCU fix, and man

    It's hard for me to articulate how much I love the fact that the MCU worked, and worked really, really well

    It makes me happy whenever I think about it

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    The Assembling a Universe thing was a bummer

    I was hoping for some insightful stuff

    The first like ten minutes is that, and then it's like "here's a recap of all these movies and how they tie together"

    There's an excellent book to be written or documentary to be filmed one day on how all this came to be, and I can't wait for it

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Yeah, it's mostly stuff we've already seen, but there's some fun tidbits

    For example, Samuel L Jackson calling up Marvel of his own volition about playing Nick Fury was funny to me

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    I picked up Shutter #1 today

    I liked it

    Really love the art

    And the two mini-comics at the end were also great

  • KaplarKaplar On Google MapsRegistered User regular
    I finally got to see CA2 tonight. That was a really satisfying opening. I loved the amount of dude punching in this movie.

  • KaplarKaplar On Google MapsRegistered User regular
    Also, pages late, but what's the specific reason for not eating movie hotdogs? Any other foods to avoid?

  • Lost CanuckLost Canuck World's Greatest Escape Artist Doctor Vundabar's Murder MachineRegistered User regular
    Yeah, it's mostly stuff we've already seen, but there's some fun tidbits

    For example, Samuel L Jackson calling up Marvel of his own volition about playing Nick Fury was funny to me

    Was he aware of the Ultimate comics with the Nick Fury that looked and acted an awful lot like him?

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  • Grey GhostGrey Ghost Registered User regular
    The story I heard was that he let them use his likeness for the comics but asked that they cast him if movies were ever made

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Grey Ghost wrote: »
    The story I heard was that he let them use his likeness for the comics but asked that they cast him if movies were ever made

    The story I heard is he threatened to sue the shit out of them for using his likeness unless they gave him first choice of playing Nick Fury in a movie, if a movie was to be made.

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  • WeaverWeaver Breakfast Witch Hashus BrowniusRegistered User regular
    The story I heard is that Sam Jackson and Nick Fury swapped places back during Ultimate Power

  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    [http://herocomplex.latimes.com/movies/avengers-samuel-l-jackson-on-his-master-manipulator-nick-fury/#/0
    “It was kind of weird,” Jackson said. “I just happened to be in a comic store, and I picked up the comic because I saw my face. And I was like, ‘Wait a minute, I’m not sure I remember giving somebody permission to use my image.’”

    The comic itself even noted the likeness in a panel in which the Ultimates discuss who would portray them in a hypothetical movie. Fury answers, “Why, Mister Samuel L. Jackson, of course. That’s not even open to debate.”

    Stunned, Jackson approached Marvel.

    “They were kind of like, ‘Yeah, we are planning on making movies, and we do hope you’ll be a part of them,’” he recalls.

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I'm watching a documentary about Stan Lee on Netflix

    It's mostly just making me think about how bummed I'll be when he dies, because he's really influenced me practically since birth

    They also spent a good 10, 15 minutes on the idea that Jack Kirby was just as responsible for the stories as Stan Lee was, which was nice to see

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  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    I wonder what the Marvel movie scene would be like if Kirby was still around.

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    I wonder what the Marvel movie scene would be like if Kirby was still around.

    Hopefully there would be twice as many cameos, for one thing


    I would like to see some of the Kirby crackle effect in live action sometime, on a related note

  • ShadowenShadowen Snores in the morning LoserdomRegistered User regular
    Veldrin wrote: »
    I wonder what the Marvel movie scene would be like if Kirby was still around.

    Hopefully there would be twice as many cameos, for one thing

    "So you're saying I get paid more for five minutes' work than I did for any of the actual work I did at either Marvel or DC?"

    "Yes."

    "Is this your idea of an apology?"

    "...maybe."

  • WearingglassesWearingglasses Of the friendly neighborhood variety Registered User regular
    I wonder how the Kirby Crackle would look like in CG.

    If the Fantastic Four should revert, I hope that their story would be the "wormhole / cosmic ray phenomenon" they went in way back (before Iron Man happened) reopens and they come out, empowered. And everybody would freak out but to them they've been gone for only a few hours.

    And then in a dimly lit castle, a figure watching the media circus surrounding the return of the Fantastic Four crushes his glass of wine.

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    Now I'm just re-imagining existing Stan Lee cameos, but with Jack Kirby included

    The Incredible Hulk one where he's grabbing a drink out of the fridge has a shot of Jack Kirby sitting on a couch, with Stan asking "I'm going to get something to drink, do you want anything?" on his way to the fridge

    Jack Kirby is the other guy playing chess against Stan Lee at the end of Avengers

    Jack Kirby sitting next to Stan Lee as one of the judges in the beauty pageant in Iron Man 3

  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    Jack Kirby in place of the library desk in The Amazing Spider-Man

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    I would like to see some of the Kirby crackle effect in live action sometime, on a related note

    Scott Pilgrim has it

  • EtchwartsEtchwarts Eyes Up Registered User regular
    I would like to see some of the Kirby crackle effect in live action sometime, on a related note

    Scott Pilgrim has it

    Oh yeah! I'd forgotten!

    It does look really good in live action!

  • VeldrinVeldrin Sham bam bamina Registered User regular
    I would like to see some of the Kirby crackle effect in live action sometime, on a related note

    Scott Pilgrim has it

    Oh yeah! I'd forgotten!

    It does look really good in live action!

    Where was it in Scott Pilgrim?

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    When Patel explodes

    It might be in more spots than that

    But the trivia track very deliberately points out "these are Kirby dots"

  • OwenashiOwenashi Registered User regular
    On the topic of this week's AoS-ending.
    I can't say for sure if Hand's really dead one way or the other but you gotta admit that she was kinda asking for a little karma kickback what with deciding midflight to not only shoot her prisoner instead of delivering him to the Fridge but egging Ward to do it to boot. Not to mention I can't help wondering if her bit with that fake 'join HYDRA or die speech resulted in anyone getting jailed or shot just because they believed her and were either scared out of their head or thought they'd try a fast one to help SHIELD.

  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    Thoughts on Arrow S1 finale
    I quite liked it! Malcolm was a fantastic villain, both as himself and the Dark Archer. When he revealed that he has a second device and parts of Starling City did straight up collapse I was struck by that impressive twist, it'll be interesting to see how that effects season 2. And my biggest complaint - Thea being insufferable - became less of an issue, although with Moira's confession I imagine things are going to get worse before they get better.

    And poor, poor Tommy, he quickly turned into such a likeable guy who was then shat on throughout the season.

  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    Owenashi wrote: »
    On the topic of this week's AoS-ending.
    I can't say for sure if Hand's really dead one way or the other but you gotta admit that she was kinda asking for a little karma kickback what with deciding midflight to not only shoot her prisoner instead of delivering him to the Fridge but egging Ward to do it to boot. Not to mention I can't help wondering if her bit with that fake 'join HYDRA or die speech resulted in anyone getting jailed or shot just because they believed her and were either scared out of their head or thought they'd try a fast one to help SHIELD.
    Can't say I much object to jailed on that one.

    I mean, the premise is "Find anyone we can absolutely trust."

    "I was just trying to pull a fast one" isn't a good reason to leave someone locked up for months, but it is reason enough to put someone away until the shooting dies down. Too much doubt when you need guarantees.

  • RadiusRadius Registered User regular
    There was a song that played during TWS, I think during
    the museum trip
    and during the end credits, that I think was supposed to be uplifting or something.

    But all I could hear was I Can Go The Distance from Hercules.

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  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    I'm watching a documentary about Stan Lee on Netflix

    It's mostly just making me think about how bummed I'll be when he dies, because he's really influenced me practically since birth

    They also spent a good 10, 15 minutes on the idea that Jack Kirby was just as responsible for the stories as Stan Lee was, which was nice to see

    is that the one where he claims to have made up the idea of mjolnir

  • LanglyLangly Registered User regular
    chiasaur11 wrote: »
    Owenashi wrote: »
    On the topic of this week's AoS-ending.
    I can't say for sure if Hand's really dead one way or the other but you gotta admit that she was kinda asking for a little karma kickback what with deciding midflight to not only shoot her prisoner instead of delivering him to the Fridge but egging Ward to do it to boot. Not to mention I can't help wondering if her bit with that fake 'join HYDRA or die speech resulted in anyone getting jailed or shot just because they believed her and were either scared out of their head or thought they'd try a fast one to help SHIELD.
    Can't say I much object to jailed on that one.

    I mean, the premise is "Find anyone we can absolutely trust."

    "I was just trying to pull a fast one" isn't a good reason to leave someone locked up for months, but it is reason enough to put someone away until the shooting dies down. Too much doubt when you need guarantees.
    but she was going to execute them.

  • ToxTox I kill threads they/themRegistered User regular
    Here's what I want with Ward/Garrett:
    Garrett is more of an opportunistic/soldier of fortune type. He finds out about what's going on with Centipede. He's getting a little over the hill maybe, he decides he's going to try to link up with them. He makes contact and has tons of inside information about their operation (by way of having access to SHIELD's files on all the tech they're using) and about their enemies (by way of having access to SHIELD's files on the people they're using). So they call him the Clairvoyant and he's like "yeah sure whatever." Mostly he's just in it for access to eternal youth (by way of regeneration and vitality, and immortality via what happened to Coulson).

    But this isn't his first rodeo either, and he's been exploiting his position with SHIELD for decades, just on a smaller scale. And when he was Ward's SO, he made a point of keeping him on a tight leash. This led to extensive psychological conditioning, programming, and maybe even some outright brainwashing.

    All of a sudden, Hydra shows up. Garrett figures, eh what the hell. They seem to have completely infiltrated SHIELD, so they're an obviously better choice of ally.

    Meanwhile Ward didn't actually know Garrett was the Clairvoyant, but he'd been programmed so extensively that when Garrett pulls his whole, "HAND is the Clairvoyant! Can YOU BELIEVE that?!" it's obviously him passing along information. At some point (likely off screen) Garrett "activates" Ward, then Ward gets himself on the escort and shoots the crew.

    But! Ward is going to start to realize what's been done to him, and he'll likely be very, very angry with Garrett and probably either betray him to Coulson's team or kill him on his own.

    But! At that point, it will have been too late, and Ward will realize not only has he done so many outright evil deeds that he'll see himself as being irredeemable in SHIELD's eyes. And then he'll have a revelation that as long as he's the bad guy he might as well be the bad guy. He'll decide that all that brainwashing/programming/conditioning? Turns out what it really did was peel back the layers and let the real Ward out (or at least that's the line he'll give). Basically he'll decide that without any pesky morals he's able much more effective at being "the whole situation."

    Cue season 2 with Centipede basically taken down, but now Ward has infiltrated the Fridge and sprung all those villains and stolen all that tech. Also there's the whole, you know, super-spy-action-hero type thing Ward has going on, while will make him that much harder to deal with, since Team Coulson will have to constantly watch their backs.

    Ward turns into some crazy amalgamation of Angelus/Tankor/Michael Westen.

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  • CenoCeno pizza time Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-box-office/

    The MCU is the most successful franchise in U.S. history. Bigger than Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and James Bond.
    1. Marvel Cinematic Universe (Nine movies) - $2,463.3 billion and counting
    2. Harry Potter (Eight movies) - $2,390.1 billion (next film, Fantastic Beasts, TBA)
    3. Star Wars (Seven movies) – $1,918.0 billion (Next film December 2015)
    4. James Bond (24 Movies) - $1,912.8 billion (Next film November 2015)
    5. Batman (Eight Movies) $1,897.8 billion (Next film May 2016)
    6. Lord of the Rings (Six movies) $1,622.0 billion (Next film December)
    7. Shrek (Five movies) $1,419.6 billion (Next film TBD)
    8. Spider-Man (Four movies) $1,375.9 billion (Next film May)
    9. Twilight (Five movies) $1,363.5 billion
    10. Pirates of the Caribbean (Four movies) $1,279.2 billion (Next film 2016)

    Ceno on
  • PaperLuigi44PaperLuigi44 My amazement is at maximum capacity. Registered User regular
    So who do we reckon is going to own the rights to the planet's name in due time, Disney or Google?

  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    So, I suppose the question comes down to this:
    Can AoS work when enemies aren't taken care of and keep returning?
    -Or-
    Is it better to have a solid casting that's doomed to be killed off?

  • Mr PinkMr Pink I got cats for youRegistered User regular
    Is The Winter Soldier worth seeing in 3D, or am I safe without it?

    I have no problem with 3D but if it doesn't really add anything I'll probably go without.

  • MysstMysst King Monkey of Hedonism IslandRegistered User regular
    there were five Shrek movies?

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  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Ceno wrote: »
    http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-box-office/

    The MCU is the most successful franchise in U.S. history. Bigger than Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and James Bond.
    1. Marvel Cinematic Universe (Nine movies) - $2,463.3 billion and counting
    2. Harry Potter (Eight movies) - $2,390.1 billion (next film, Fantastic Beasts, TBA)
    3. Star Wars (Seven movies) – $1,918.0 billion (Next film December 2015)
    4. James Bond (24 Movies) - $1,912.8 billion (Next film November 2015)
    5. Batman (Eight Movies) $1,897.8 billion (Next film May 2016)
    6. Lord of the Rings (Six movies) $1,622.0 billion (Next film December)
    7. Shrek (Five movies) $1,419.6 billion (Next film TBD)
    8. Spider-Man (Four movies) $1,375.9 billion (Next film May)
    9. Twilight (Five movies) $1,363.5 billion
    10. Pirates of the Caribbean (Four movies) $1,279.2 billion (Next film 2016)

    U.S. history?

    Is there a non-hollywood series that has made more than 2,500 billion?

    Edit: Oh nevermind, US Gross

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  • David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Mr Pink wrote: »
    Is The Winter Soldier worth seeing in 3D, or am I safe without it?

    I have no problem with 3D but if it doesn't really add anything I'll probably go without.

    Go without. It doesn't really add much and there are some dark scenes especially in the beginning that I found 3D to be detrimental for.

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  • DedwrekkaDedwrekka Metal Hell adjacentRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-box-office/

    The MCU is the most successful franchise in U.S. history. Bigger than Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and James Bond.
    1. Marvel Cinematic Universe (Nine movies) - $2,463.3 billion and counting
    2. Harry Potter (Eight movies) - $2,390.1 billion (next film, Fantastic Beasts, TBA)
    3. Star Wars (Seven movies) – $1,918.0 billion (Next film December 2015)
    4. James Bond (24 Movies) - $1,912.8 billion (Next film November 2015)
    5. Batman (Eight Movies) $1,897.8 billion (Next film May 2016)
    6. Lord of the Rings (Six movies) $1,622.0 billion (Next film December)
    7. Shrek (Five movies) $1,419.6 billion (Next film TBD)
    8. Spider-Man (Four movies) $1,375.9 billion (Next film May)
    9. Twilight (Five movies) $1,363.5 billion
    10. Pirates of the Caribbean (Four movies) $1,279.2 billion (Next film 2016)

    U.S. history?

    Is there a non-hollywood series that has made more than 2,500 billion?

    Edit: Oh nevermind, US Gross

    I suppose if you roll up all of Dr Who's 50 years and adjust for inflation?

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Ceno wrote: »
    http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-box-office/

    The MCU is the most successful franchise in U.S. history. Bigger than Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and James Bond.
    1. Marvel Cinematic Universe (Nine movies) - $2,463.3 billion and counting
    2. Harry Potter (Eight movies) - $2,390.1 billion (next film, Fantastic Beasts, TBA)
    3. Star Wars (Seven movies) – $1,918.0 billion (Next film December 2015)
    4. James Bond (24 Movies) - $1,912.8 billion (Next film November 2015)
    5. Batman (Eight Movies) $1,897.8 billion (Next film May 2016)
    6. Lord of the Rings (Six movies) $1,622.0 billion (Next film December)
    7. Shrek (Five movies) $1,419.6 billion (Next film TBD)
    8. Spider-Man (Four movies) $1,375.9 billion (Next film May)
    9. Twilight (Five movies) $1,363.5 billion
    10. Pirates of the Caribbean (Four movies) $1,279.2 billion (Next film 2016)

    that becomes even more impressive when you consider that Marvel has a movie in theatres now, and will have 3 more out before any of the other top 5 franchises next film.

  • ChincymcchillaChincymcchilla Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Ceno wrote: »
    http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-box-office/

    The MCU is the most successful franchise in U.S. history. Bigger than Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and James Bond.
    1. Marvel Cinematic Universe (Nine movies) - $2,463.3 billion and counting
    2. Harry Potter (Eight movies) - $2,390.1 billion (next film, Fantastic Beasts, TBA)
    3. Star Wars (Seven movies) – $1,918.0 billion (Next film December 2015)
    4. James Bond (24 Movies) - $1,912.8 billion (Next film November 2015)
    5. Batman (Eight Movies) $1,897.8 billion (Next film May 2016)
    6. Lord of the Rings (Six movies) $1,622.0 billion (Next film December)
    7. Shrek (Five movies) $1,419.6 billion (Next film TBD)
    8. Spider-Man (Four movies) $1,375.9 billion (Next film May)
    9. Twilight (Five movies) $1,363.5 billion
    10. Pirates of the Caribbean (Four movies) $1,279.2 billion (Next film 2016)

    that becomes even more impressive when you consider that Marvel has a movie in theatres now, and will have 3 more out before any of the other top 5 franchises next film.

    To be fair, they can have multiple crews working on multiple films at once, none of the others really can, either because they feature a singular character, or the same cast and crew, etc.

    It's not really a franchise in the same way those other films are

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Dedwrekka wrote: »
    Ceno wrote: »
    http://www.slashfilm.com/marvel-cinematic-universe-box-office/

    The MCU is the most successful franchise in U.S. history. Bigger than Harry Potter, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and James Bond.
    1. Marvel Cinematic Universe (Nine movies) - $2,463.3 billion and counting
    2. Harry Potter (Eight movies) - $2,390.1 billion (next film, Fantastic Beasts, TBA)
    3. Star Wars (Seven movies) – $1,918.0 billion (Next film December 2015)
    4. James Bond (24 Movies) - $1,912.8 billion (Next film November 2015)
    5. Batman (Eight Movies) $1,897.8 billion (Next film May 2016)
    6. Lord of the Rings (Six movies) $1,622.0 billion (Next film December)
    7. Shrek (Five movies) $1,419.6 billion (Next film TBD)
    8. Spider-Man (Four movies) $1,375.9 billion (Next film May)
    9. Twilight (Five movies) $1,363.5 billion
    10. Pirates of the Caribbean (Four movies) $1,279.2 billion (Next film 2016)

    U.S. history?

    Is there a non-hollywood series that has made more than 2,500 billion?

    Edit: Oh nevermind, US Gross

    I suppose if you roll up all of Dr Who's 50 years and adjust for inflation?
    Considering Doctor Who is a BBC TV show that only had a handful of theater releases that would be pretty negligible

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