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Is it possible to overcome my sambucaphobia?

DrezDrez Registered User regular
I generally cannot stand or tolerate any sweet liquor. Last night, I was offered a free cordial at the restaurant I went to and when I couldn't decide, they recommended sambuca. I literally did nothing more than dip the tip of my tongue in the snifter and almost vomited.

I think this can be traced back to a single terrible night I had with Jägermeister back in 2004, or thereabouts. Ever since then, any licorice-flavored alcohol makes me sick - the taste, the smell, hell even the thought of it is making me gag a little right now.

This applies to most sweet liquors. I can't do Jägermeister anymore. Fireball Whiskey (cinnamon) triggers the gag reflex. That sambuca created an awkward situation. Cognac makes me ill. Port wine is a no-no. Even a Rum and Coke is tough.

But then I can have fruity beers, (most) sweet wines are okay, and stuff like margaritas and the like are totally fine.

Have I just forever ruined sweet drinks for myself? It kind of perplexes me that people can pound them back and for me, even taking a whiff of one makes me violently ill.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Eh, if you don't like it you don't have to like it.

    If someone offers you some, why not just say you aren't a big fan of sweet liquor?

    Wassermelone on
  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    I agree but I wish I understood.

    I sat at the restaurant thinking "fuck, James Bond would never have trouble having a snifter of sambuca" and then I wept a little. (I was half drunk at this point.)

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited April 2014
    I wrecked peach schnapps for myself. Better part of a liter in about 45 minutes... that was a baaaaad night, let me tell you. Ever since any and all artificial peach flavoring, even the scent of it, makes me want to vomit. That continues to this day but it happened 15 years ago.

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  • wiltingwilting I had fun once and it was awful Registered User regular
    Don't drink any of those myself, as far as I'm concerned its the drinks that are foul and I'm proud that I don't pollute myself with such things.

  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    While James Bond may not have trouble drinking Sambuca he still wouldn't drink that shit.

  • tarnoktarnok Registered User regular
    The psychological link between illness and the foods that cause it is one of the most primal reactions that humans experience. It's a survival trait to avoid things that made you sick in the past and most animals have evolved to have a strong aversion to foods that they associate with sickness.

    When I was a kid I loved rootbeer. Once I bought a whole case of rootbeer and after drinking only a couple of cans I came down with an unrelated but pretty miserable illness. After a couple of days when I'd stopped throwing up and seemed to be on the mend I tried to drink some more rootbeer and just the smell of it made me slightly ill. But I had a case of it and I was gonna be damned if I let getting sick ruin rootbeer for me. Eventually I got over it, but it took some effort and a whole case of rootbeer.

    I guess what I'm saying is that you can beat instinct if you really want to, but the key in this case is to drink the stuff without getting sick again. Eventually your mind will stop freaking out when it sees that you're not getting sick from it.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    Peppermint Schnapps here, 10 shots in about 5 minutes trying to impress a girl. *shrug* 20 years later, still cant stomach the stuff, but it does not really come up.

    Would it have been an option to order a nice scotch instead of a cordial?

  • ThunderSaidThunderSaid Registered User regular
    What's the point in trying to "overcome" this "problem?" It's not like you hate beets but know that they're good for you, so you're trying to eat them anyway. You don't like sweet liquor, so don't drink sweet liquor. Honestly, if you don't want to drink alcohol of any kind, that's not a problem.

    From a health perspective, alcohol is bad for you (excluding some possible benefits from an occasional glass of red wine). So, treat it like cookies. If you hated oatmeal-raisin cookies, why would you want to train yourself to like them? There's no benefit. Just enjoy the chocolate chip cookies. (So, to back us out of this cookie metaphor, there's no reason to try and develop a taste for sambuca. Just enjoy the kinds of drinks you enjoy.)

  • Seattle ThreadSeattle Thread Registered User regular
    From a health perspective, alcohol is bad for you (excluding some possible benefits from an occasional glass of red wine).

    Excessive alcohol consumption is bad for you. Multiple studies have linked positive health benefits to a daily glass of booze, and not necessarily just red wine.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Sambuca, Ouzo, and whatnot seem very common given a certain context (giveaway shot in some places). I will take a shot of your backyard distilled garbage just to be hospitable, but don't be a hero. You can beg off.

    I'm not a fan of sweet. But from a liquor perspective natural sweetness is tolerable, added sweetness is gross.

    If it is a cultural thing (everyone is taking the shot so I need to) [PROST!] Ill grin and bear it. If it is multiple, find another local drink.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Well, I asked for something "non-sweet" and I was told that cordials/digestives are generally sweet. Is that true?

    I don't really care that much but I feel such revulsion to something like Jäger or Fireball that even being next to someone at a bar ordering it makes me sick. Like, taking a whiff makes me ill. Even if I'm not drinking it, overcoming that would absolutely be in my best interest.

    Plus, every girl I know seems to be switching over to Fireball Whijsey.

    Finally, it's a matter of literally not being able to comprehend how I could be so violently opposed to a taste some people apparently love. I wish I could understand. It's like people who prefer Pepsi over Coke. That's just crazy!

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    I cannot stand anything that is anise flavored. I hate anise, black liquorice, sambuca, jaeger, fennel, caraway, tarragon etc. If it is anything remotely close to anise I will not touch it.

    In America a cordial is the same thing as a liqueur meaning it has been flavored with fruit, spices, flowers, herbs, etc. Basically when you think cordial just go ahead and think schnapps. It will probably be sweet and will probably include flavors other than alcohol. Honestly if I was offered a free cordial at a restaurant I would probably turn it down as it just isn't my preferred type of booze.

    Finally not liking something others do like is having this thing called tastes. Pretty common thing.

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Well sure but

    Okay fair point.

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  • CelestialBadgerCelestialBadger Registered User regular
    Heed this lesson that nature is giving you.

  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Cordials and digestives are usually sweet. That said, in such a context it isalways suitable to request a single malt or a brandy/cognac ... Or a Manhattan.

    Do not give too much truck to what is trendy. Rye seems to be the shit now (it was good before and will still be good when trends change).

  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Shogun wrote: »
    I cannot stand anything that is anise flavored. I hate anise, black liquorice, sambuca, jaeger, fennel, caraway, tarragon etc. If it is anything remotely close to anise I will not touch it.

    Same, yuck.

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    Next time, just say, "Oh, no thank you. I'm not a fan of sweet alcohol. Can I just pay for some Bourbon instead?"

    Then drink your Bourbon like a fucking boss knowing full well in your heart, you're being awesome because fuck liqueurs. To me, they're like what people mean when you ask if "they drink coffee". It's not coffee when it's got icecream and sugar and cream and whip cream and chocolate sauce on it. It's a sundae. Don't call it coffee.

    There is a single exception.

    Irish Coffee

    Irish Coffee is perhaps the worlds most perfect beverage, there is no time it is not appropriate.

    Edit:
    What a sexy drink.

    dispatch.o on
  • LoveIsUnityLoveIsUnity Registered User regular
    Fireball whiskey is raunchy.

    As far as I'm concerned, you don't have a problem you have good taste.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    dispatch.o wrote: »
    Next time, just say, "Oh, no thank you. I'm not a fan of sweet alcohol. Can I just pay for some Bourbon instead?"

    Then drink your Bourbon like a fucking boss knowing full well in your heart, you're being awesome because fuck liqueurs. To me, they're like what people mean when you ask if "they drink coffee". It's not coffee when it's got icecream and sugar and cream and whip cream and chocolate sauce on it. It's a sundae. Don't call it coffee.

    There is a single exception.

    Irish Coffee

    Irish Coffee is perhaps the worlds most perfect beverage, there is no time it is not appropriate.

    Edit:
    What a sexy drink.


    "the problem with Irish coffee is that it ruins three good drinks: coffee, cream, and whiskey" :p

  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
    Also have had rough nights on various liquors, often ruining things for myself. I know what you mean though, not wanting to be the person who isn't able to share a specific drink. For my group of friends, that monster was tequila.

    I got AWFUL drunk one night on the stuff, and gag-city any time I was near it (smelling was the worst). Being surrounded by it all the time, and not being the ONE person who couldn't drink it, I built up a tolerance. The best way I found for myself to do this was to find a use for the alcohol in a mix that I could stand (for this example, it was tequila-gingers).

    Slowly brought myself to the point where I can have the stuff. Shooting it straight isn't ideal, but I can drink it without pulling a face. If you can get yourself onto a liquor by working your way up, that's the best way I've found...

    Or, you know, just drink what you like. That's cool too.

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  • CreaganCreagan Registered User regular
    I have the same problem with anything that tastes like or has a texture similar to quiche. I'm not even sure if quiche is what caused the initial illness (they never found out what it was) but it was the last thing I ate before becoming so horrifically ill I was hospitalized for three days. And I think I'm developing a similar aversion to wantons after a bout of food poisoning last summer.

    I've been told you can get over this type of psychological food aversion by exposing yourself to it until the smell and taste no longer make you ill. My puke-induced food issues aren't so limiting that they're worth fixing, though. I was only mildly fond of quiche and I didn't like wantons to begin with.

  • SmasherSmasher Starting to get dizzy Registered User regular
    I was going to suggest acclimating yourself to it slowly by mixing in small but slowly increasing amounts over time, but if just smelling it makes you sick that could be difficult.

    How strong does the smell have to be for you to have that reaction? If it's anything more than barely detectable you might be able to work your way up from there.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited April 2014
    I think you just need to be known for your drink. Like Ceres who drinks gin and tonics, or zepherin who drinks makers on the rocks. Just be known for a type of drink and people will start ordering it for me or you... But you can totally order me a makers mark on the rocks.

    zepherin on
  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Plus, every girl I know seems to be switching over to Fireball Whiskey.

    Get better friends.

    If you want to try something sweet that's very smooth, look for plum wine; usually found in the Asian section. Soju is also deceptively deadly.

  • RoyalRoyal Registered User regular
    As explained in some detail this is a simple case of taste aversion it likely had to do with the smell and texture as offering an explanation of your ability to consume other sweet drinks like margaritas and so on.

    Taste aversion can be "treated" in some cases and in others can fade if not triggered for some time. So first decide are you personally being affected negatively? If no just leave it don't try the drinks and eventually you may be able to soak them. If being able to have those drinks has an actual negative effect on you then do look into getting it fixed.

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  • AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    I had the exact same problem with any liquorice flavored spirits long ago, fortunately it didn't extend to other things as I am very fond of cognac

    got the same thing with oysters after a bout of food poisoning which was way worse as I love oysters


    anyway I got rid of both through time and perseverance - forcing down oysters, forcing down jäger or whatever the hell. Forcing them very gently and in very limited amounts so that I don't just make it worse. But there was a time where I'd have an oyster or two, or nip to an aperitif, and just accept that I was going to feel a wave of nausea coming up, before that stopped.

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  • ruzkinruzkin Registered User regular
    Dude, thirteen years after a terrible night (and explosive morning) on rum, I still can't touch the stuff. Sometimes your body just forms an association it can't break, and that's okay.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Was the "Jägermeister back in 2004" event the first time you threw up from drinking?

    That's how I am with Southern Comfort. First time I ever drank so much liquor that I vomited and ever since then I get sick at my stomach just smelling it, and that was about 15 years ago.

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  • PinfeldorfPinfeldorf Yeah ZestRegistered User regular
    I can't do tequila or anything agave-related, the flavor of it is just putrid to me. I also kind of chunder in my mouth a little bit if I smell whiskey, because of a night I had when I was 20. Three people, a handle of Jack Daniels and 5 hours playing Super Smash Brothers equaled a morning of three people vying for the same toilet.

    You don't like what you don't like, that's really all there is to it.

  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Well, I asked for something "non-sweet" and I was told that cordials/digestives are generally sweet. Is that true?

    I don't really care that much but I feel such revulsion to something like Jäger or Fireball that even being next to someone at a bar ordering it makes me sick. Like, taking a whiff makes me ill. Even if I'm not drinking it, overcoming that would absolutely be in my best interest.

    Plus, every girl I know seems to be switching over to Fireball Whijsey.

    Finally, it's a matter of literally not being able to comprehend how I could be so violently opposed to a taste some people apparently love. I wish I could understand. It's like people who prefer Pepsi over Coke. That's just crazy!

    are you hanging out with teenagers? The last time I remember Fireball Whiskey being a thing it was being smuggled into high school dances

  • DrezDrez Registered User regular
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Well, I asked for something "non-sweet" and I was told that cordials/digestives are generally sweet. Is that true?

    I don't really care that much but I feel such revulsion to something like Jäger or Fireball that even being next to someone at a bar ordering it makes me sick. Like, taking a whiff makes me ill. Even if I'm not drinking it, overcoming that would absolutely be in my best interest.

    Plus, every girl I know seems to be switching over to Fireball Whijsey.

    Finally, it's a matter of literally not being able to comprehend how I could be so violently opposed to a taste some people apparently love. I wish I could understand. It's like people who prefer Pepsi over Coke. That's just crazy!

    are you hanging out with teenagers? The last time I remember Fireball Whiskey being a thing it was being smuggled into high school dances

    Don't judge.

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    Drez wrote: »
    Fearghaill wrote: »
    Drez wrote: »
    Well, I asked for something "non-sweet" and I was told that cordials/digestives are generally sweet. Is that true?

    I don't really care that much but I feel such revulsion to something like Jäger or Fireball that even being next to someone at a bar ordering it makes me sick. Like, taking a whiff makes me ill. Even if I'm not drinking it, overcoming that would absolutely be in my best interest.

    Plus, every girl I know seems to be switching over to Fireball Whijsey.

    Finally, it's a matter of literally not being able to comprehend how I could be so violently opposed to a taste some people apparently love. I wish I could understand. It's like people who prefer Pepsi over Coke. That's just crazy!

    are you hanging out with teenagers? The last time I remember Fireball Whiskey being a thing it was being smuggled into high school dances

    Don't judge.

    I'm going to judge the shit out of you @Drez.

    It's OK, we're still friends.

    Drink what you want. You don't like ouzo, sambuca, becherovka, whatever weird tasting shit the people you're hanging out with are slamming .. then order that martini dry .. stirred not shaken.

    Don't be shooting Hot Damn cause the kids are ... they're stupid.

  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    To be fair, dip your tongue in most of that shit and it's going to be disgusting. Shots are shots for a reason--get it over with.

    I don't generally do shots either, though, because I don't enjoy them. I'd rather spend the $6 on a pint or glass of wine. I have no trouble politely declining offers of shots. The only time I didn't follow that rule was on my wedding day.

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