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[Fargo TV thread] Season 3 I can Help

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  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    Preacher wrote: »
    Well that makes sense, numbers seemed like the idea guy, wrench was the muscle. So at least as far as that goes their roles made sense. I guess Mr. Jew and Mr. Ginger seemed to insulting.

    i am pretty sure that they were intended as a midnight cowboy reference

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  • y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    I liked how Molly has become Marge to finally solve the crime

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    maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
  • Speed RacerSpeed Racer Scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratch scritch scratchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Last night's episode wasn't as explosive as last weeks, but it didn't really need to be, it was more of a descending action for us to see how these characters work/don't work within their world. Still I wish I spoke ASL, I'm pretty sure they weren't just saying what they claimed to be saying.

    the actor who plays mr. wrench is legit deaf so i'd imagine it's legit ASL

    also he was the grown up son in there will be blood

    I thought he meant that he was suspecting that there were some extra snippets of asl dialogue that no one in the show translates

    Speed Racer on
  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    I liked how Molly has become Marge to finally solve the crime

    She kinda already did, she just can't convince anybody. And it could stay that way, at this rate. For all we know, Key & Peele will take down Sling Blade and Mr. Show will collar The Hobbit.

    "Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are." - Bertolt Brecht
  • y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    I liked how Molly has become Marge to finally solve the crime

    She kinda already did, she just can't convince anybody. And it could stay that way, at this rate. For all we know, Key & Peele will take down Sling Blade and Mr. Show will collar The Hobbit.

    I just mean she's now like 8 months preggers or whatever Marge was

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    maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    I knew Wrench wasn't down for the count. I wonder what his next move after escaping was.

    Edit: Wrong nickname

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  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    Wrench, you mean.

  • EgosEgos Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    He fends off a justifiably furious woman he took advantage of under false pretenses, Swinglines her two dim-witted boys between the eyes, and she's like, yeah, this is life partner material.

    She must not have heard the
    "I let you cum in me" bit. Not sure how she could have missed it.

    And just saw him defending himself against two much larger teens.

    edit: Anyway I sort of got the feeling she was harboring a crush on him by the way she looked at him when he first returned to work.

    Egos on
  • JoshmviiJoshmvii Registered User regular
    Lester's new wife is just attracted to shitheels, that's all. Some people are. He was uninteresting to her when he was a stammering weakling. Now he's confident. She heard Hess's wife with her "you came in me 12 hours ago" line, she just didn't care. And when he put a staple in the 2 kid's faces instead of backing down from their threats she got hot over it.

    There are plenty of people out there who are attracted to exactly that kind of take no shit attitude, even if it isn't usually a good thing.

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Yeah, basically she was attracted to confidence and success. Now she should have noted what he was confident at doing and what fields his particular success were in, but what can you do?

  • BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    y2jake215 wrote: »
    I liked how Molly has become Marge to finally solve the crime

    She kinda already did, she just can't convince anybody. And it could stay that way, at this rate. For all we know, Key & Peele will take down Sling Blade and Mr. Show will collar The Hobbit.

    I just mean she's now like 8 months preggers or whatever Marge was

    Her hair is also totally Marge now.

  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    I've really appreciated not only how close they've hewed to the Coen's aesthetic from the original movie, but also how they've developed character dynamics that fit their sensibilities so well. It's like we're getting one long Coens film, and that's great.

    Also, true to Coens' form, conformists are all either assholes or imbeciles or both.

  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    edited June 2014
    Atomika wrote: »
    I've really appreciated not only how close they've hewed to the Coen's aesthetic from the original movie, but also how they've developed character dynamics that fit their sensibilities so well. It's like we're getting one long Coens film, and that's great.

    Also, true to Coens' form, conformists are all either assholes or imbeciles or both.

    i think they've done a pretty good job of pulling back on this tendency, actually. the central nonconformists are malvo and lester. most of the protagonists - gus and molly especially - are for the most part trying to exist within their communities rather than outside their communities. molly is frustrated by the rules but stubbornly works within them. gus wants to be a mailman! one of the central facets of the show, actually, is malvo's malign influence in desocializing people into radical individualists and it always being for the worst.

    i especially admire how they humanized the Bill character. he's over his head and bad at his job but he's a decent, sympathetic person. narratives, and especially mass-market tv narratives have a way of reflexively casting foils as villains. also odenkirk surprisingly nails that role and plays it completely without the kind of sneering irony he usually brings.

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  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    Atomika wrote: »
    I've really appreciated not only how close they've hewed to the Coen's aesthetic from the original movie, but also how they've developed character dynamics that fit their sensibilities so well. It's like we're getting one long Coens film, and that's great.

    Also, true to Coens' form, conformists are all either assholes or imbeciles or both.

    i think they've done a pretty good job of pulling back on this tendency, actually. the central nonconformists are malvo and lester. most of the protagonists - gus and molly especially - are for the most part trying to exist within their communities rather than outside their communities. molly is frustrated by the rules but stubbornly works within them. gus wants to be a mailman! one of the central facets of the show, actually, is malvo's malign influence in desocializing people into radical individualists and it always being for the worst.

    i especially admire how they humanized the Bill character. he's over his head and bad at his job but he's a decent, sympathetic person. narratives, and especially mass-market tv narratives have a way of reflexively casting foils as villains. also odenkirk surprisingly nails that role and plays it completely without the kind of sneering irony he usually brings.

    True, but Gus and Molly's central conflicts so far have been against their own institutions for not respecting authority, despite both of their desires to do so. Both prefer conformity, but not at the cost of justice going undone.

    I also like the way they've made Bill sympathetic, but he's just a little too bad at his job for me to rationalize away my disdain for him. He comes across as a guy that likes to be in charge but hates working, and that's always loathsome character. The general incompetence of the police here can be really frustrating from a narrative standpoint, especially considering that the case just isn't that difficult to put together.


    I'm surprised we haven't seen Oliver Platt lately. Is that storyline over now or what?

  • Death of RatsDeath of Rats Registered User regular
    Oh god, I had completely forgotten that Gus WANTED to be a mailman and not a police officer! That makes them after the timejump even better.

    I shiver to think about how things are going to go down for them. I really really really hope the three of them have a at least untouched by everything. Same with Bill actually. He may be an idiot who's pride has gotten in the way of catching two killers, but he's also at least likable.

    No I don't.
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I don't think its Bill's pride that got in his way. It's more like Bill just wants to be a small time sheriff, dealing with blizzards and bake sales. A triple homicide is just beyond what he can process and he'd much rather just put it in a nice tidy bin, than look beyond the superficial.

    Also maybe Bill is thinking more clearly than Molly since Malvo flat out murdered 22 people who he thought were coming after him, what would stop him from going full terminator on the Bemidji police force? Absolutely nothing.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • AtomikaAtomika Live fast and get fucked or whatever Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Also maybe Bill is thinking more clearly than Molly since Malvo flat out murdered 22 people who he thought were coming after him, what would stop him from going full terminator on the Bemidji police force? Absolutely nothing.

    I'd like to think he was that protective, but you gotta remember that he was being pretty dumb from the beginning, before Malvo went on the rampage. He was the one that kept screwing up suspect interviews and floating his dumb "gang of drifters" theory about Lester and Vern.

  • Irond WillIrond Will WARNING: NO HURTFUL COMMENTS, PLEASE!!!!! Cambridge. MAModerator Mod Emeritus
    the scene with the sudanese lost boy was surprisingly moving

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Irond Will wrote: »
    the scene with the sudanese lost boy was surprisingly moving

    It was really awkward, but yeah at the same time it was showing Bill in his own way is trying to balance the books. Of course snarky jerks on the interboobs are quick to point out that the man he had with him probably wasn't the student he was looking for and he just randomly decided one african is as good as another...

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    Man, fuck Lester. What a piece of shit.

    ...I mean, I guess we already knew that, but that ending...

  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    omfg, so Malvo...
    becomes a dentist, gets good at it, moves into a place that looks like David Frost's bachelor pad, gets engaged, all so he can get close to someone with a $100,000 bounty on his head. First of all, what's a dentist make a year again? Never mind, forget I asked. Suspension of disbelief and all. But still, it's like he's playing a reverse-speed-run of the longest Hitman level ever.

    "Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are." - Bertolt Brecht
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Jesus Lester.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Zoku GojiraZoku Gojira Monster IslandRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Jesus Lester.
    "One more thing, hon, d'ya think you could put on this mask of Bilbo from the Hobbit? Don't want yer pretty face gettin' cold, sure don't, nosiree."

    "Because things are the way they are, things will not stay the way they are." - Bertolt Brecht
  • BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    omfg, so Malvo...
    becomes a dentist, gets good at it, moves into a place that looks like David Frost's bachelor pad, gets engaged, all so he can get close to someone with a $100,000 bounty on his head. First of all, what's a dentist make a year again? Never mind, forget I asked. Suspension of disbelief and all. But still, it's like he's playing a reverse-speed-run of the longest Hitman level ever.
    It's amazing. I didn't notice this until an AVC post, but "I haven't had a pie this good since the Garden of Eden" is yet another strong implication that he's literally the devil himself.

    He's the greatest Hitman of all time, really - he puts in that much work, but his survival instincts are so strong that he's willing to let it all go at the first sign of trouble. He's also an incredibly fast learner and a complete chameleon (getting a girl that hot and young to marry you in 6 months - wow). There's no way he's going to die next week, at most he'll get injured and escape like Anton Chigurh.

    Bubby on
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    What really makes Lester as a piece of shit this episode, it was entirely his ego that brought about this. If he had walked away there would have been no issue for him at all. Also one horrible thing because I saw it in GIF form and must have missed it last night.

    When malvo shoots the people in the elevator, he winks at lester right before he killed his fiancee, as if giving Lester a nod of "And here's the best way to kill your spouse."

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Captain TragedyCaptain Tragedy Registered User regular
    edited June 2014
    Preacher wrote: »
    What really makes Lester as a piece of shit this episode, it was entirely his ego that brought about this. If he had walked away there would have been no issue for him at all. Also one horrible thing because I saw it in GIF form and must have missed it last night.

    When malvo shoots the people in the elevator, he winks at lester right before he killed his fiancee, as if giving Lester a nod of "And here's the best way to kill your spouse."

    There's also the irony that
    Lester started the episode confronting Malvo and bringing this shit back into his life because of the whole bullshit "I'm a alpha male and won't be ignored - acknowledge how much of a man I've become" thing and then ends the episode as the pathetic coward he actually is who sends his innocent wife to her death because he's too chickenshit to actually directly deal with the consequences of his actions.

    Captain Tragedy on
  • noir_bloodnoir_blood Registered User regular
    It's amazing. I didn't notice this until an AVC post, but "I haven't had a pie this good since the Garden of Eden" is yet another strong implication that he's literally the devil himself.

    I actually hated that line. It felt waaaaaay too much on the nose.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Also nice to see Malvo is a dick to people because he can be, with the bit outside of Lester's old house. Thanks Lorne we haven't forgotten.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Also nice to see Malvo is a dick to people because he can be, with the bit outside of Lester's old house. Thanks Lorne we haven't forgotten.

    That scene was hilarious.

    Also,

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    Aces

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I'll admit I'm trying to fit aces with little shooter fingers into a lot of things I'm doing today.

    It's funny, we know Lorne is a horrible person, just absolutely human filth. But unlike Lester I don't consider him as awful, just because Lorne clearly only cares about Lorne and never hides that.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/aces.gif?w=650

    Its probably too big for the forums, but this gif is aces!

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    I'm going to use Aces all the time now. Almost did it to a dog owner on my run this morning.

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Almost did what? WHAT DID YOU DO TO THAT DOG OWNER?!

    Honestly Lorne is more freaky sexually than I would expect from someone so masculine. I mean ass play? Lorne you dog.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • y2jake215y2jake215 certified Flat Birther theorist the Last Good Boy onlineRegistered User regular
    there was a nice symmetry to malvo asking lester "yes or no?" and this time, instead of saying nothing, lester says yes

    which is an even worse decision

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    maybe i'm streaming terrible dj right now if i am its here
  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Honestly the first time Lester at least knew what Yes meant, this time he had no clue.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • BubbyBubby Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Almost did what? WHAT DID YOU DO TO THAT DOG OWNER?!

    Honestly Lorne is more freaky sexually than I would expect from someone so masculine. I mean ass play? Lorne you dog.

    Thumb up the butt is small time, if she would have said tongue now we're talking.

  • AstaerethAstaereth In the belly of the beastRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/aces.gif?w=650

    Its probably too big for the forums, but this gif is aces!

    It just occurred to me that gunfingers is Lorne's way of saying, "I wish I could shoot you right now."

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yep, and then he did!

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • Raiden333Raiden333 Registered User regular
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/aces.gif?w=650

    Its probably too big for the forums, but this gif is aces!

    It just occurred to me that gunfingers is Lorne's way of saying, "I wish I could shoot you right now."

    In an ideal world, the forum staff would be fans of this show and "Aces!" would replace "Hail Hydra"

  • shoeboxjeddyshoeboxjeddy Registered User regular
    Raiden333 wrote: »
    Astaereth wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    http://uproxx.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/aces.gif?w=650

    Its probably too big for the forums, but this gif is aces!

    It just occurred to me that gunfingers is Lorne's way of saying, "I wish I could shoot you right now."

    In an ideal world, the forum staff would be fans of this show and "Aces!" would replace "Hail Hydra"

    We already have Awesome though...

    Another great episode. I love how the parable from the title inevitably makes its way into the plot or at least the ethics of each episode. Lester's answer to the riddle was even worse than the Turducken answer though.
    If he was less of a cowardly shit and just a regular shit, he could have tailed his wife towards the office from a distance. Then when Malvo revealed himself, BANG! Kill him and maybe you can save your wife in the bargain. Instead, he lost everything and gained nothing except a few more days (?) of life.

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