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Help me pick a new [smartphone]

RichyRichy Registered User regular
edited May 2014 in Help / Advice Forum
So I'm sick of my old cell phone, and I've decided to enter the digital age and buy myself my very first smartphone.

My requirements (and also the reasons I'm changing from my cellphone):
1. Internet connectivity, likely through a data plan, because I often need to access information (especially work information) away from the offices. In addition to googling up and reading information, this will likely include installing Dropbox and/or LogMeIn apps for remote access to my work computer and files, and of course reading and responding to emails.
2. Apps and games to keep me busy in transit, waiting rooms, etc. The only entertainment I can get from my current cell phone is juggling in.
3. Good call quality, as I intend to make it my primary phone.
4. Good texting quality. My #1 annoyance with my current cell phone is that it sucks for texting, with no way to sort messages by user, no way to read both incoming and outgoing messages to follow a conversation, and a hard-coded 100 message memory limit.
5. Good camera. While I do have an actual camera I bring with me on trips, I do not walk around with it every day, so my phone is what I'll be using for random on-the-fly pics.
6. Good CPU and memory, because if I start using this phone a lot as a computing device and it is too slow, it will annoy me and I will end up chugging it at a wall.
7. Must fit in my pocket. This is the one thing my current cell phone excels at.
8. I dislike Apple, and Blackberry is dying, so I'd rather avoid these two companies.

I've looked around a bit and I see four likely candidates:
1. Samsung Galaxy S5
2. HTC One
3. LG Nexus 5
4. Samsung Galaxy Note 3

So far as I can tell, the differences between them are not major.
* Note 3 has a screen 0.7inches larger than the other three candidates, which may not be a blessing as it does make the phone bulkier to carry.
* CPU ranges from 2.26MHz to 2.5MHz, which doesn't strike me as a massive difference.
* All but one have 2MB RAM and 16GB internal storage. The only exception is the Note 3, at 3MB RAM and 32GB internal storage.
* HTC One seems to have a crap camera but the others are ok.
* Network-wise, unless I'm not seeing something, they all seem pretty equivalent.
* They are all Android phones, Note 3 has the older 4.3 and the others have 4.4. I don't know if it's possible to update Note 3 to 4.4. But I assume that means they can all use the same apps and work pretty much in the same way.


So, I need help to make a decision:

1. If you use some of these phones, what are your recommendations? Do you like your phones?
2. Is there another potential candidate I should add on this list, or an obviously bad one I should remove?
3. Given how similar they all seem to each other, what should I base my decision on?

Thanks for the advice!

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  • BouwsTBouwsT Wanna come to a super soft birthday party? Registered User regular
    I don't have a horse in this race, as I'm not using Android. However, I saw this phone, and the price point:feature ratio seemed too good not to consider. If you're an early adopter, you might want to look into the Oneplus One.

    http://www.cnet.com/news/oneplus-one-to-hit-general-availability-in-june-schedule-says/

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  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    I have an older HTC, and while I have loved it, its finally breaking down on me. I will say that my boyfriends camera on his galaxy is stellar, it blows the camera on my HTC out of the water. If that is a major concern for you, I would probably consider it.

    The form factor on htc phones is pretty nice and the one has a good feel to it. Men's pants pockets are a lot bigger than what I usually have available, so you may not have trouble with the galaxy, but if you put any sort of case on it, its going to be a hulking monster. I dont keep a case on my phone, and its survived a few falls. My boyfriend keeps a case on his, its giant, but he can still pocket it.

    Go play with the phones in person, though. Android feels different on one device to the next. Fiddle with them and find the one that makes the most sense for you.

  • puffycowpuffycow Registered User regular
    I agree with Iruka's last sentence, go to the store and play with each for a few minutes. There are different skins that manufacturers can put on top of Android to make each phone feel wildly different from the next.

    On the Oneplus One, I am assuming there is going to be a long wait for that one (also, it won't be available on Verizon as of now if that matters to you).

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  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    I just bought an S5 over the HTC one and the nexus 5.

    why?

    1) the S5 has slightly better specs that matter than the HTC in almost every way. HTC one has a better 'design' which I could care less about.
    2) nexus 5 is more expensive and i understand its a pain to get it to work on a verizon network
    3) the camera on the HTC
    4) HTC and Nexus 5 do not have removable batteries which is a must imo.
    5) S5 is waterproof.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    I have a Moto X and like it (sprung for the bamboo back), but that's because I am the bringer of death to devices, and Samsungs just cannot withstand my abuse (killed a Galaxy Nexus)

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    If you're signing up for a new 2 year commitment, Best Buy is having some good sales on phone.

    I just got an HTC One (m7) for $1. I messed around with it before as some friends have it and I really liked it, and I don't mind being one year behind in the tech curve.

  • KharnastusKharnastus Registered User regular
    S5 will probably be a good choice. Mind you, your aversion to apple products seems similar to my past concerns. I have since become a fanboy and will probably be purchasing apple products for all of my computing needs. A wonder what being a paid mac technician does for your though process...
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  • I ZimbraI Zimbra Worst song, played on ugliest guitar Registered User regular
    I got a Nexus 5 a week or so ago after having a Galaxy S4, and I'm very happy with it. It's incredibly fast, has a nice screen, and a nice form factor. The camera is probably the weakest of the 4 phones you listed, although it's adequate for day to day use, and it recently got a new camera app which seemed to improve it's performance. Battery life has been good for me so far; I generally get to be with at least 30% left on moderate-heavy usage. The design is nice; It feels more solid than my Samsung and fits better in my hand. It's also sold unlocked so you'd be able to take it with you to a different carrier, or use a prepaid carrier like Straight Talk.

  • badpoetbadpoet Registered User regular
    The HTC One is a far superior phone to a Galaxy S4, but not to the S5 (though, as pointed out earlier there's a new HTC coming out).

    It's a great phone though. I don't get the bitching about the camera. It's a fine phone camera and the Zoe function (it'll automatically make little movies for you with music) is actually pretty great.

  • MorranMorran Registered User regular
    I would never buy a phone without replaceable battery and memory card slot.

    Replaceable battery is a great thing both for longer trips away from chargers (smartphones drain battery rather quick if used) but also to increase the lifespan of the phone.

    I have used my galaxy s2 for years now, and am currently working my way through the third replacement battery.

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  • ceresceres When the last moon is cast over the last star of morning And the future has past without even a last desperate warningRegistered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    Galaxy fangirl here. I have an S3 and am thinking about replacing it with an S4 soon (I didn't like holding the S5, but otherwise I'm told it's a straight if minor upgrade from the S4). I love my S3 so much I bought a Note 8. Then my husband loved THAT so much that he got one too.

    My husband's work phone is an S4, and his camera is better than mine but not by as much as I thought it would be. I like the look and feel of the S4 the best of the three phones.

    I hear the HTC One is pretty great as well, and if not for my love for the Galaxy series I would probably have one of those. I've used an HTC phone longterm in the past... it was a good phone for the time and the price was right.

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  • MorranMorran Registered User regular
    Galaxy phones often get criticised for being "plastic", but there is actually an upside of this. The lighter weight of plastic (compared to eg aluminium), in combination with a not-fixed lid over the battery makes the phone much more robust to damage when dropped. I have dropped my galaxy s2 while standing up down on to concrete several times without major damages.

  • MorranMorran Registered User regular
    Actually, galaxy s4 is a pretty solid option imo.

    Cheaper than s5 while not being that much worse spec-wise, replicable battery and memory card. Also, the only phone to get TCO certification, which implies (at least in theory) some level of sustainability.

  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    I see a lot of support for the Galaxy phones so far. Can someone tell me what's the difference between the Galaxy S series and Note series?

    Also, is a replaceable battery or charger really that big a deal? Right now I just charge my phone at home every second or third night, while I sleep. Why can't I just keep doing that with a smartphone?

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  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    You'll probably be charging much more often with a Smartphone. If you actually use it to do any smartphone things it can eat the battery like woa. Now that almost all smartphones charge off USB though it's usually not an issue. If you spend any amount of your day in front of a computer you just plug it in and it keeps things topped off.

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  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    I see a lot of support for the Galaxy phones so far. Can someone tell me what's the difference between the Galaxy S series and Note series?

    Also, is a replaceable battery or charger really that big a deal? Right now I just charge my phone at home every second or third night, while I sleep. Why can't I just keep doing that with a smartphone?

    The Note series all have styluses and screens designed to work with them. They also have very big screens - the Note 3 has a 5.7 inch screen compared to 5.0 for the Galaxy S4 and 5.1 for the S5.

    A replaceable battery can be important in so far as it's a fact of life that batteries in devices (any type of device, from phones to laptops) tend to sometimes lose capacity and generally crap out over time. If you have a phone with a reliable battery, you buy a new battery for say $50 or so, pop it in, and you're golden. (Or you have the option of getting an aftermarket high-capacity battery to get more life between charges if you aren't satisfied with the battery life you get out of the box.)

    On a phone where the battery isn't removable, though, if your battery starts to bite the big one, you're basically out of luck, unless you can get the phone repaired/replaced under warranty.

    That said, it's not like it's guaranteed you'll ever find yourself needing to replace the battery, and if you see yourself upgrading to another new phone in a year or two anyway, it -probably- won't ever become an issue for you. The trend in smartphone design is definitely against removable batteries - Samsung is the only major holdout, LG's G2 last year had one but we'll have to see what they do with the G3 this year. On the other hand, if you're a little paranoid (nothing wrong with that) or want to maybe hold on to the same phone for a few years, the ability to easily swap in a new battery may be more important to you.

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  • PowerpuppiesPowerpuppies drinking coffee in the mountain cabinRegistered User regular
    I have a Galaxy S4 or S5, not sure which, and there was a pretty significant drop in call quality and signal from my old dumbphone. YMMV

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Thanks... But I do spend a good portion of most days near my home or office computer (part of the reason it's taken me so long to move to smart phone) and I don't remember the last time I spent an entire 24-hour period away from a power outlet, so I should be ok for charging. Plus one of my friends owns a smart phone repair shop in town, and if push comes to shove I'm confident I could figure out how to open the phone and replace the battery myself. So I'm not going to worry too much about the replaceable battery, to be honest.

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  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    Alternative suggestion here - you should consider a Windows Phone.

    I've had a Lumia 920 for 1½ year now and if I had to swap it out for a new phone I would for sure get another Lumia. Now there is not the crazy amount of apps for Windows Phones as there is for Android or iOS, but there is still loads to chose from and on top of that Nokia loads their phones with great stuff like navigation, travel planer for public transport that works globally and more. The hardware is also very nice, great cameras, clever audio when recording video, wireless charging, solid build quality. Worth a look I'd say.

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  • dlinfinitidlinfiniti Registered User regular
    I have a galaxy s5
    I can take showers with my phone

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  • nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    My brother in law has the Moto X it seems like a really nice phone. it's always on voice commands is really neat.

    In general unless you want the big ass phone I'd go with a HTC One over Galaxy these days. the Galaxy phones just have a cheap feeling body.

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    In general unless you want the big ass phone I'd go with a HTC One over Galaxy these days. the Galaxy phones just have a cheap feeling body.

    Which chances are good he will cover up with a case anyway. Not saying the One's body isn't a lot nicer, but I don't understand why people act like this is a top-tier criterion for choosing a phone when 90% of the people I see have some ugly bulky case on their phone regardless of what type it is.

  • KharnastusKharnastus Registered User regular
    From experience... The current build qualities of the various manufacturers seem to assume that you won't throw it on concrete without a shock resistant case for it. As I don't make a habit of throwing my laptop on concrete, I don't have a case for it. My smartphone... gets dropped. Get a case! :neutral_face:

  • tuxkamentuxkamen really took this picture. Registered User regular
    So, I have an HTC One M7. The big problem with that one was that the camera was not only (relatively) poor in quality, but actively broken and prone to failure (up until about October 2013 manufacture). Despite that, it is seriously one of the nicest phones I've used yet. It's extremely capable, the camera (when it works) is good enough, and it *can* take night shots if the sensor is working.

    I mention all that because you may be looking at a deal for the M7--if you do, you absolutely need to check the serial number for manufacture date and the camera sensor for potential problems.

    Since you did mention the M8, the thing with it is that HTC continues to push really stupid alternative camera technologies on the rear of the phone. The front camera is actually 5MP full HD while the back Duo Camera is dual 4MP. If they'd just put a standard 8MP or better camera on the back, the conversation would pretty much be over.

    (Speaking of which: http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/official-htc-one-m8-mini-pictures-leak-without-dual-lens-camera )

    So, if size is an issue and you can give a little on specs, that's also a choice. One thing you don't mention is sound and music quality. If you happen to play music on your phone, the M7 and M8 both have really nice dual speakers.


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  • MimMim lemme gobble that weenieRegistered User regular
    I have a Samsung Galaxy S4 and I find no problem with the build of the phone itself. I actually like it and it doesn't feel fake to me at all. The only issues I have with my phone, and I don't know if this is network problem or not, is that sometimes the people I'm calling can't hear me mid-conversation.

    Other than that, I would suggest it. The camera is okay on it. I can take some photos from both the front and back end cameras to show you what they look like so you'll get a better idea of what you're dealing with if you want to go this route.

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  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    tuxkamen wrote: »
    One thing you don't mention is sound and music quality. If you happen to play music on your phone, the M7 and M8 both have really nice dual speakers.

    I don't. I'm really not the kind of person who listens to music to pass the time. Quite the opposite in fact: I listen to news interviews in my car while driving and to lectures on tape on my mp3 player in the gym, and silence is ideal when I work. Music and me are in two different worlds.

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  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    I just got the Galaxy Note 3 on Saturday after using a Galaxy S2 for a couple of years. It's a large phone, but I appreciate that and it's one of the reasons I was drawn to it. I love the huge, colorful screen. I could see the size may be a drawback for others. It has fit just fine in my pocket so far. It's thin enough that I don't really notice it. Battery life has been great so far. We're not supposed to use phones at work, so I leave it in my bag and it goes down maybe 1-2% over 8 hours of non-use. I haven't charged it since yesterday afternoon and made calls over Bluetooth, listened to some audio, texts, surfed the web for about an hour this morning, played with the stylus and right now (18 hours later) it is at 84%. I'm not convinced that the stylus is going to be more than a gimmick for me, but it is fantastic for handwriting. Great if you just want to write little post-it notes for yourself on your phone. Camera and video are excellent, but I thought the S2 had a pretty decent camera as well.

  • BlindZenDriverBlindZenDriver Registered User regular
    Kharnastus wrote: »
    From experience... The current build qualities of the various manufacturers seem to assume that you won't throw it on concrete without a shock resistant case for it. As I don't make a habit of throwing my laptop on concrete, I don't have a case for it. My smartphone... gets dropped. Get a case! :neutral_face:

    Not all phones are made the same (and I'm not talking about some rugged army phone):
    youtube.com/watch?v=jH4xYN9I5Kw

    But it can of course be destroyed if one insists even though running it over with a car is not enough.
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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    I got a nexus 5 for me and my wife and we moved to the metropcs network (from sprint) at end of March. Each phone cost me $350 + tax but it is not subsidized and I'm paying $100 less a month for service (2 lines).

    Compared to the S4 (haven't touched the S5) and the Note 3, it feels better in the hand (though this may not mean much since a case can change that considerably) and feels better built. I have several DSLR and P&S rigs and like to take photos and I don't think the differences in PQ on any of the flagship phones is significant. It's not like any of them will compare to a DSLR or nice P&S. Samsungs tend to have deeper color saturation if you like that. I like the built-in panoramic and HDR functionality in the nexus, but the competition may have equivalent (don't know).

    I don't particularly care about removable battery. I haven't had battery issues using a smartphone for 1.5-2 years like my S3, or EVO, or iPhone, though given how much I'm saving I could just outright buy the next Nexus when it comes out.

    I tend to shut off mobile data and just use wifi, unless I don't have a wifi connection and need data. If you've any specific questions about Nexus or things you'd like me to try let me know.

  • BradicusMaximusBradicusMaximus Pssssssssyyyyyyyy duckRegistered User regular
    edited May 2014
    tuxkamen wrote: »
    So, I have an HTC One M7. The big problem with that one was that the camera was not only (relatively) poor in quality, but actively broken and prone to failure (up until about October 2013 manufacture). Despite that, it is seriously one of the nicest phones I've used yet. It's extremely capable, the camera (when it works) is good enough, and it *can* take night shots if the sensor is working.

    I mention all that because you may be looking at a deal for the M7--if you do, you absolutely need to check the serial number for manufacture date and the camera sensor for potential problems.

    Hijacking for a second to ask, @tuxkamen does the camera problem having anything to do with some sort of focusing mechanism? A few months after I got mine the camera fucked up and I just never got around to getting it fixed.

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  • fightinfilipinofightinfilipino Angry as Hell #BLMRegistered User regular
    i just started using the HTC One M8, and i'm loving it so far. i somewhat wish i waited to see how the OnePlus One reviewed, but i'm pretty happy nonetheless.

    the only downside to the M8 is its camera, but unless you're a professional or enthusiast photographer and you need your phone to meet that level, you probably won't notice. otherwise, if you're looking for a premium looking and feeling phone with a clean interface and really really good processing power/performance, you'd be good with the M8.

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  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Also, the M8 is going to be on sale (with the usual 2 year contract caveat) at $100 this for Mother's Day. That's a steal.

  • tuxkamentuxkamen really took this picture. Registered User regular
    edited May 2014
    tuxkamen wrote: »
    So, I have an HTC One M7. The big problem with that one was that the camera was not only (relatively) poor in quality, but actively broken and prone to failure (up until about October 2013 manufacture). Despite that, it is seriously one of the nicest phones I've used yet. It's extremely capable, the camera (when it works) is good enough, and it *can* take night shots if the sensor is working.

    I mention all that because you may be looking at a deal for the M7--if you do, you absolutely need to check the serial number for manufacture date and the camera sensor for potential problems.

    Hijacking for a second to ask, @tuxkamen does the camera problem having anything to do with some sort of focusing mechanism? A few months after I got mine the camera fucked up and I just never got around to getting it fixed.

    Um, the cameras are *also* known to have focusing problems, but the issue is a crappy sensor in the initial runs that is prone to overheating (like, within moments). The primary symptom is that pictures start going purple/pink, eventually becoming a permanent problem. If your phone is still under warranty, you should absolutely contact HTC and get it repaired, they have acknowledged the problem.

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  • BradicusMaximusBradicusMaximus Pssssssssyyyyyyyy duckRegistered User regular
    Bah. I think my warranty actually ran out about a month or so ago. Lame

  • RichyRichy Registered User regular
    Alright, let's talk data plans. I never had one, so I'm not quite sure what to expect in terms of usage numbers.

    As I mentioned, I plan right now to use my phone's internet ability as a backup, for when I'm not near my office or home computers. It will be mostly checking emails, directions, or information online, reading text with a few images (this forum or Facebook when I'm bored waiting somewhere, recipes or tech sites if a question comes up when I'm shopping). I do not expect I'll be doing very data-intensive tasks like watching hours of videos on YouTube. Given this, I back-of-the-envelope estimate I could use less than 300Mb per month.

    Could anyone with usage history similar to what I describe confirm or refine these numbers?

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  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    I think my usage pattern is similar to yours. I'm on a few forums, use Google maps navigation, heavy email usage on personal and work emails, web browsing to shop or price check, occasional emergency rdp session, photos get backed up to dropbox, and one multiplayer card game. My monthly mobile data average at Sprint for previous 12 months (before I jumped ship) was around 200 MB. I usually have WiFi access.

    One thing that got me the 1st month on a metered plan is when I put in my Google info on my new phone it downloaded and installed all my apps over mobile data network running through about 300 MB of my plan on 1st day. So you might want to shut off mobile data and force that over WiFi if you are moving from another android phone.

  • RocketSauceRocketSauce Registered User regular
    Richy wrote: »
    Alright, let's talk data plans. I never had one, so I'm not quite sure what to expect in terms of usage numbers.

    As I mentioned, I plan right now to use my phone's internet ability as a backup, for when I'm not near my office or home computers. It will be mostly checking emails, directions, or information online, reading text with a few images (this forum or Facebook when I'm bored waiting somewhere, recipes or tech sites if a question comes up when I'm shopping). I do not expect I'll be doing very data-intensive tasks like watching hours of videos on YouTube. Given this, I back-of-the-envelope estimate I could use less than 300Mb per month.

    Could anyone with usage history similar to what I describe confirm or refine these numbers?

    That pretty much describes me. I was on Sprint's Unlimited Everything Plan where you had unlimited data, but I primarily used Wi-Fi for intensive activities like watching videos or downloading podcasts (by far the most), so I was only using around 300mb a month. I'm not the kind of guy who has to be doing something on my phone at all times, mostly just when I'm waiting for something, or want to check email or scores. I switched over to Verizon because it was going to save me a lot more and am trying out the 1gb plan, and in a week's usage it's only been about 100mb.

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