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I will admit the trailer made it look endearing at least. I just can't imagine an ending that could feel real. It's not another sneaky based on a true story film right??
What I hate about that kind of movie is that the main male character usually finds a real girl of his dreams and moves on. I wish that didn't happen, I want a guy to just shrug things off, hope for the best, but not be expecting anything too unrealistic.
Closest we got to that was As Good As It Gets.
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We will have to see how this movie goes of course but I agree. An accurate depiction of reality would be that girl of his dream rejecting him again because he hasn't actually grown or changed for the better over the course if the film.
There's probably a writer somewhere in there that is hoping for some life imitating art after his movie hits the theater. I have bad news for him. Unless it works. Then I'm happy for him.
I have created an interesting spinoff movie in my imagination here.
Seth Rogen of all people pointed out Hollywood does not do marriage or wives properly at all. The female part in a hollywood relationship is always a one personality trait and a goal, not a real person. And relationships are either fresh and new or old and stale, you never have a couple that is comfortable in who they are without feeling the need to be something they aren't.
I know no one wants to watch "married couple generally likes each other does boring things." But I swear our pop culture idea of romance and love is fucking up peoples ideas on both.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Seth Rogen of all people pointed out Hollywood does not do marriage or wives properly at all. The female part in a hollywood relationship is always a one personality trait and a goal, not a real person. And relationships are either fresh and new or old and stale, you never have a couple that is comfortable in who they are without feeling the need to be something they aren't.
I know no one wants to watch "married couple generally likes each other does boring things." But I swear our pop culture idea of romance and love is fucking up peoples ideas on both.
That isn't about Hollywood, that's story telling. Stable relationships are boring, that's why there needs to be conflict. In media that have longer life spans like tv relationships have their ups and downs, or if Whedon is writing it dying when the couple are too happy, movies only have 2 hours to explore the relationship entirely. That cuts down their options.
The issue of course is that its unrealistic that every relationship is broken, and that's all that hollywood ever shows. Even the plucky side kicks relationship is always fucked up because they can't be happy.
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How about a movie where the conflict isn't the relationship but something like how this strong loving couple tackle obstacles in life? Qualifying for a home mortgage? Super couple support each other to save money and live frugally to meet their goal!
Climax of the movie is when they operate a post hole digger together and finally learn how to measure twice and cut once while erecting a privacy fence to keep the neighbor's unleashed dogs out.
How about a movie where the conflict isn't the relationship but something like how this strong loving couple tackle obstacles in life? Qualifying for a home mortgage? Super couple support each other to save money and live frugally to meet their goal!
Climax of the movie is when they operate a post hole digger together and finally learn how to measure twice and cut once while erecting a privacy fence to keep the neighbor's unleashed dogs out.
I guess I write what I know?
That'd be unrealistic to the other extreme. Couples do argue, though it doesn't have to reach the point where they almost break up over it.
How about a movie where the conflict isn't the relationship but something like how this strong loving couple tackle obstacles in life? Qualifying for a home mortgage? Super couple support each other to save money and live frugally to meet their goal!
Climax of the movie is when they operate a post hole digger together and finally learn how to measure twice and cut once while erecting a privacy fence to keep the neighbor's unleashed dogs out.
I guess I write what I know?
That'd be unrealistic to the other extreme. Couples do argue, though it doesn't have to reach the point where they almost break up over it.
How is this unrealistic when I just described a portion of my own life from the past year? It might be boring but I'm not a professional writer either. I challenge Hollywood to make this film!
How about a movie where the conflict isn't the relationship but something like how this strong loving couple tackle obstacles in life? Qualifying for a home mortgage? Super couple support each other to save money and live frugally to meet their goal!
Climax of the movie is when they operate a post hole digger together and finally learn how to measure twice and cut once while erecting a privacy fence to keep the neighbor's unleashed dogs out.
I guess I write what I know?
That'd be unrealistic to the other extreme. Couples do argue, though it doesn't have to reach the point where they almost break up over it.
married 6 years largest argument I ever had was over an mmo and loot. And it wasn't even a long term argument.
Oh and that time we murdered a hobo.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
Movies have plenty of healthy relationships, they just aren't the focus of the movie, so people don't remember them.
Yeah. If the film is actually about the couple and their relationship, the couple will generally need to have interesting drama to keep it... well, interesting. But tons of films show, say, the married parents of the main character in completely happy and functional relationships. Or parents who maybe have some minor issues but resolve them without ever being in danger of breaking up. Or there's a married couple who are subjected to an external problem and then have to negotiate it with no relationship drama at all.
Sure, rom-coms disproportionately feature either couples in new, exciting relationships or old, stale ones. And action films disproportionately feature either supercops who don't follow the rules or average joes who wind up In Over Their Heads.
That's just how interesting drama works in a film about relationships. That's how stakes work. Nobody wants to watch a movie where the happily-married couple try to buy a house and it doesn't go very smoothly and so they calmly decide to switch real estate agents and then they successfully buy a house and the movie ends.
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Movies have plenty of healthy relationships, they just aren't the focus of the movie, so people don't remember them.
Yep, just off the top of my head, I remember Juno's parents being perfectly rational human beings in a stable relationship.
Also, Easy A.
But the parents were not the main focus/plot in either movie.
And the parents from Natural Born Killers.
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The best part of that Shark Week ad? Me imagining that the little girl at the end that said, "Mommy, what just happened?" was referring to the Discovery Channel.
The Discovery channel going to shit aint nothing new, that happened when they started replacing all their shows about actual science and space and cool stuff, with reality TV, years ago.
Seth Rogen of all people pointed out Hollywood does not do marriage or wives properly at all. The female part in a hollywood relationship is always a one personality trait and a goal, not a real person. And relationships are either fresh and new or old and stale, you never have a couple that is comfortable in who they are without feeling the need to be something they aren't.
I know no one wants to watch "married couple generally likes each other does boring things." But I swear our pop culture idea of romance and love is fucking up peoples ideas on both.
TV I think generally does this better. Mostly because, I think, the longer time you have to work with means you can use a healthy relationship as a backdrop for the actual story and it'll still get enough screentime to feel like it's covered.
How about a movie where the conflict isn't the relationship but something like how this strong loving couple tackle obstacles in life? Qualifying for a home mortgage? Super couple support each other to save money and live frugally to meet their goal!
Climax of the movie is when they operate a post hole digger together and finally learn how to measure twice and cut once while erecting a privacy fence to keep the neighbor's unleashed dogs out.
I guess I write what I know?
That'd be unrealistic to the other extreme. Couples do argue, though it doesn't have to reach the point where they almost break up over it.
married 6 years largest argument I ever had was over an mmo and loot. And it wasn't even a long term argument.
Oh and that time we murdered a hobo.
What's the argument over? Who has to pour the lye?
This sort of thing is supposed to strengthen a relationship. You work together and it all goes better.
Yeah that's what I told my wife, but she's all "Oh my back hurts I can't dig a six foot hole." Clearly she didn't read our marriage vows which said she was the hole digger!
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About Time did an awfully good job of presenting a rom-com with a healthy and happy couple (with two sets of healthy and happy parents, no less).
Of course, there was also time travel involved. So maybe Hollywood thinks the one is just as unlikely as the other.
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I've long held the theory that writers in Hollywood have, for the most part, never really had strong relationships, if any. That in fact they kind of built up in their minds what a relationship should be based on their own watching of films prior which confuses them as to the reality and it basically creates an Ouroboros of failing expectation.
I've long held the theory that writers in Hollywood have, for the most part, never really had strong relationships, if any. That in fact they kind of built up in their minds what a relationship should be based on their own watching of films prior which confuses them as to the reality and it basically creates an Ouroboros of failing expectation.
You'd be blaming the wrong people. Screenwriters don't have all the control over their stories, they answer to producers and directors. It's a miracle we got a good Superman movie with Jon Peters - he's the guy who wanted to put a giant spider in a Superman's movie, it ended up in Wild, Wild West.
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I'm pretty sure the chick who wrote Ruby Sparks had control over her story and the general premise of that story is hella freaky.
I was more focusing on things that aren't made to be these tentpole all inclusive action summer blockbusters, those have a formula they stick to because rightly or wrongly no change is better than change. But all those mumblecore or independent or lower budget Hollywood movies that are a step above DTV? That they mostly still follow a predictable formula when they really don't need to.
Ima drop some Rilke on ya'll and say writers need to love themselves before they tell us how to love *beatniks snapping fingers as Mike Meyers gets onstage at the SF coffee shop*
There's a point to be made that a movie with no tension in the romance might be dull, I say these days it would be so refreshing even if it's not executed well the novelty would still carry it over the line. That dude talking to that other attractive lady over there? His current attractive wife doesn't need to get jealous about it!
I'm pretty sure the chick who wrote Ruby Sparks had control over her story and the general premise of that story is hella freaky.
I was more focusing on things that aren't made to be these tentpole all inclusive action summer blockbusters, those have a formula they stick to because rightly or wrongly no change is better than change. But all those mumblecore or independent or lower budget Hollywood movies that are a step above DTV? That they mostly still follow a predictable formula when they really don't need to.
Ima drop some Rilke on ya'll and say writers need to love themselves before they tell us how to love *beatniks snapping fingers as Mike Meyers gets onstage at the SF coffee shop*
There's a point to be made that a movie with no tension in the romance might be dull, I say these days it would be so refreshing even if it's not executed well the novelty would still carry it over the line. That dude talking to that other attractive lady over there? His current attractive wife doesn't need to get jealous about it!
I meant the above the line big budget movies. Independent movies are a different kettle of fish.
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Closest we got to that was As Good As It Gets.
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There's probably a writer somewhere in there that is hoping for some life imitating art after his movie hits the theater. I have bad news for him. Unless it works. Then I'm happy for him.
I have created an interesting spinoff movie in my imagination here.
I know no one wants to watch "married couple generally likes each other does boring things." But I swear our pop culture idea of romance and love is fucking up peoples ideas on both.
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That isn't about Hollywood, that's story telling. Stable relationships are boring, that's why there needs to be conflict. In media that have longer life spans like tv relationships have their ups and downs, or if Whedon is writing it dying when the couple are too happy, movies only have 2 hours to explore the relationship entirely. That cuts down their options.
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Climax of the movie is when they operate a post hole digger together and finally learn how to measure twice and cut once while erecting a privacy fence to keep the neighbor's unleashed dogs out.
I guess I write what I know?
That'd be unrealistic to the other extreme. Couples do argue, though it doesn't have to reach the point where they almost break up over it.
Honestly it reminds me how cop shows never just have a police officer who is a normal law abiding dude, everyone has to be Vic Mackey in hiding.
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How is this unrealistic when I just described a portion of my own life from the past year? It might be boring but I'm not a professional writer either. I challenge Hollywood to make this film!
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married 6 years largest argument I ever had was over an mmo and loot. And it wasn't even a long term argument.
Oh and that time we murdered a hobo.
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Yeah. If the film is actually about the couple and their relationship, the couple will generally need to have interesting drama to keep it... well, interesting. But tons of films show, say, the married parents of the main character in completely happy and functional relationships. Or parents who maybe have some minor issues but resolve them without ever being in danger of breaking up. Or there's a married couple who are subjected to an external problem and then have to negotiate it with no relationship drama at all.
Sure, rom-coms disproportionately feature either couples in new, exciting relationships or old, stale ones. And action films disproportionately feature either supercops who don't follow the rules or average joes who wind up In Over Their Heads.
That's just how interesting drama works in a film about relationships. That's how stakes work. Nobody wants to watch a movie where the happily-married couple try to buy a house and it doesn't go very smoothly and so they calmly decide to switch real estate agents and then they successfully buy a house and the movie ends.
Yep, just off the top of my head, I remember Juno's parents being perfectly rational human beings in a stable relationship.
Also, Easy A.
But the parents were not the main focus/plot in either movie.
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And the parents from Natural Born Killers.
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That trailer doesn't surprise me at all.
TV I think generally does this better. Mostly because, I think, the longer time you have to work with means you can use a healthy relationship as a backdrop for the actual story and it'll still get enough screentime to feel like it's covered.
What's the argument over? Who has to pour the lye?
This sort of thing is supposed to strengthen a relationship. You work together and it all goes better.
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Of course, there was also time travel involved. So maybe Hollywood thinks the one is just as unlikely as the other.
You'd be blaming the wrong people. Screenwriters don't have all the control over their stories, they answer to producers and directors. It's a miracle we got a good Superman movie with Jon Peters - he's the guy who wanted to put a giant spider in a Superman's movie, it ended up in Wild, Wild West.
I was more focusing on things that aren't made to be these tentpole all inclusive action summer blockbusters, those have a formula they stick to because rightly or wrongly no change is better than change. But all those mumblecore or independent or lower budget Hollywood movies that are a step above DTV? That they mostly still follow a predictable formula when they really don't need to.
Ima drop some Rilke on ya'll and say writers need to love themselves before they tell us how to love *beatniks snapping fingers as Mike Meyers gets onstage at the SF coffee shop*
There's a point to be made that a movie with no tension in the romance might be dull, I say these days it would be so refreshing even if it's not executed well the novelty would still carry it over the line. That dude talking to that other attractive lady over there? His current attractive wife doesn't need to get jealous about it!
His haircut looks absolutely ridiculous in this, but him and Tina Fey make a hot couple. I swear she keeps getting hotter every year.
I meant the above the line big budget movies. Independent movies are a different kettle of fish.
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