I am guessing Smof meant do they call it curry in India.
Curry is all over India, under a variety of names and local variations.
As sort of a fun fact, Japanese curry was first introduced to the country by way of Britain (by way of India) but not by way of India directly, so Japanese curry is closer to British curry in being more of a savory dish. Since Japan is relatively close-ish to India there are also people from India and surrounding areas that prepare curry more in that style, though with the heat toned down to be more in line with Japanese food tastes.
Curry is all over the world, which should not be surprising given what a relatively straight forward and flexible dish it is.
I went out for Indian food for the first time recently. Literally every item on the menu other than the appetizers and the naans was referred to under the header of "curry", no matter how wildly divergent the ingredients were. It has left me very confused about the definition of the term.
I went out for Indian food for the first time recently. Literally every item on the menu other than the appetizers and the naans was referred to under the header of "curry", no matter how wildly divergent the ingredients were. It has left me very confused about the definition of the term.
Apparently, after just doing some wiki-ing, it can mean basically whatever as long as its a spicy sauce
This is what I usually think of though and it should give you a better idea:
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In the UK at least, I think basically lots of Indian influence/migrants during the Raj, lazy Brits calling all the food they brought "curry". Said Indians opened restaurants and just went with it. Curry houses are very prevalent over here.
In the UK at least, I think basically lots of Indian influence/migrants during the Raj, lazy Brits calling all the food they brought "curry". Said Indians opened restaurants and just went with it. Curry houses are very prevalent over here.
I've seen a lot of talk about Indians in here (from the Sub-Continent) but India is a very diverse country with many different language, cultural, and religious groups.
I went out for Indian food for the first time recently. Literally every item on the menu other than the appetizers and the naans was referred to under the header of "curry", no matter how wildly divergent the ingredients were. It has left me very confused about the definition of the term.
Indians literally do not have a word for curry. At most they have direct correlation with gravy.
It's a white person approximation which means food in sauce.
most of the sushi shops here are owned and operated by Korean and Chinese people so
whatever gets the most ignorant americans' money
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Generally, if you are korean and older than about 50-55 you also speak and cook japanese to varying degrees, because a very ugly exploitative colonial thing happened.
Korean-American restaurant owners have sushi menus and teriyaki chicken because it gets americans who don't know any better in the door, yes, but it would be problematic to think of it as "stealing" sushi from another culture- it was literally forced upon them.
And now they're using it to their own benefit. The weird american "Pan-Asian Cuisine" thing has very tangled roots.
Earth culture is Earth culture fucking deal with it.
The cool thing about food is that it when pushed across cultural boundaries it largely comes out as something notably different and remixed and new, without destroying the original.
At worst, a repackaging of culturally significant objects and practices for the mass market to the detriment of the original - usually through exclusion or misrepresentation.
because everyone can agree on the real obvious stuff, tasteless or offensive use of native american imagery for example, thats bad and dumb and shouldn't be done
but it probably goes further than that? some people might say that like, you shouldn't open place that serves chinese food unless you are chinese, which i'm not sure. If you make good chinese food does that even matter?
Well there's cultural appropriation and then there's cultural exchange. I think a reasonable person would argue that opening a chinese restaurant is not appropriation. But in the hyperbolic rage chamber of the internet, I'm sure you'd find people crying foul most cruel. Which is unfortunate because it would lead to an insular, sterile, and boring world.
I find what most "chinese" resteraunts do to chinese cuisine vastly more offensive than some pop star shaking her ass about.
Halloween is a great example of appropriation, like all the fears of appropriation are right there. It's completely divorced from it's original celtic practice.
But you shouldn't worry about it because the celtic traditions were mostly destroyed hundreds of years ago.
It's useful as a very strong warning of appropriation now, but going out on halloween shouldn't be of any concern.
misappropriation is a much more satisfying word, semantically. i don't like "cultural appropriation" as a pejorative. as was mentioned, that seems to be very naive about the immense extent of cultural exchange that necessarily is going on in a global, multicultural world. it also is a weird, and relatively untroublesome reversal of cultural assimilation, whereby the identities of marginalized groups are eradicated through proximity to a more powerful majority culture.
just to be clear, I'm not saying the issue is, oh the celts culture was destroyed along time ago so who cares about anything that happened in the distant past.
I'm saying it was destroyed so effectively that modern irish, and gonna speak for welsh n scottish here too, have little to no cultural connection to it. So you're not offending anyone. But it's still a very strong example.
misappropriation is a much more satisfying word, semantically. i don't like "cultural appropriation" as a pejorative. as was mentioned, that seems to be very naive about the immense extent of cultural exchange that necessarily is going on in a global, multicultural world. it also is a weird, and relatively untroublesome reversal of cultural assimilation, whereby the identities of marginalized groups are eradicated through proximity to a more powerful majority culture.
okay this is an infinitely better way of explaining it
so what actually defines "misappropriation", as opposed to regular old appropriation which happens all the time and is one of the fundamental ways in which people communicate with each other
presumably there is some connotation of actual tangible harm to somebody?
like, it's harmless to own a dreamcatcher, but it's not a good idea to set yourself up as an authority on native american religious beliefs so you can flog dreamcatchers to tourists because then you perpetuate dangerous and dehumanizing stereotypes about native americans
so what actually defines "misappropriation", as opposed to regular old appropriation which happens all the time and is one of the fundamental ways in which people communicate with each other
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I mean it basically means any Indian dish which has sauce.
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Curry is all over India, under a variety of names and local variations.
As sort of a fun fact, Japanese curry was first introduced to the country by way of Britain (by way of India) but not by way of India directly, so Japanese curry is closer to British curry in being more of a savory dish. Since Japan is relatively close-ish to India there are also people from India and surrounding areas that prepare curry more in that style, though with the heat toned down to be more in line with Japanese food tastes.
Curry is all over the world, which should not be surprising given what a relatively straight forward and flexible dish it is.
Huh
I've actually never thought of curry as a "dish"
its a spice blend that includes tumeric and any number of other things
Apparently, after just doing some wiki-ing, it can mean basically whatever as long as its a spicy sauce
This is what I usually think of though and it should give you a better idea:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curry_powder
I think they were mostly Bangladeshis but yeah
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It's a white person approximation which means food in sauce.
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Generally, if you are korean and older than about 50-55 you also speak and cook japanese to varying degrees, because a very ugly exploitative colonial thing happened.
Korean-American restaurant owners have sushi menus and teriyaki chicken because it gets americans who don't know any better in the door, yes, but it would be problematic to think of it as "stealing" sushi from another culture- it was literally forced upon them.
And now they're using it to their own benefit. The weird american "Pan-Asian Cuisine" thing has very tangled roots.
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The cool thing about food is that it when pushed across cultural boundaries it largely comes out as something notably different and remixed and new, without destroying the original.
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I was more saying this as what I wish things would be like, but yeah, I didn't say anything extra to show that.
I though it was fairly obvious you were kidding.
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I would not necessarily prefer that all. Nothing is more boring to me than homogeneity.
There's way too many people in the world for it to ever be utterly homogeneous.
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I find what most "chinese" resteraunts do to chinese cuisine vastly more offensive than some pop star shaking her ass about.
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But you shouldn't worry about it because the celtic traditions were mostly destroyed hundreds of years ago.
It's useful as a very strong warning of appropriation now, but going out on halloween shouldn't be of any concern.
cultural appropriation is when americans all start wearing ugg boots and then complain that ugg boots look stupid and then demonize ugg boots
I'm saying it was destroyed so effectively that modern irish, and gonna speak for welsh n scottish here too, have little to no cultural connection to it. So you're not offending anyone. But it's still a very strong example.
absolutely. that kind of thing is extremely offensive to australia's indigenous bogan culture
okay this is an infinitely better way of explaining it
so what actually defines "misappropriation", as opposed to regular old appropriation which happens all the time and is one of the fundamental ways in which people communicate with each other
presumably there is some connotation of actual tangible harm to somebody?
like, it's harmless to own a dreamcatcher, but it's not a good idea to set yourself up as an authority on native american religious beliefs so you can flog dreamcatchers to tourists because then you perpetuate dangerous and dehumanizing stereotypes about native americans
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