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[Marvel] - Introducing Marvel LATER!

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  • HadjiQuestHadjiQuest Registered User regular
    On a wider scope, I think Morrison and Hickman are probably too similar, as the later seems pretty influenced by the former. On a more immediate level, Hickman's stories are more intricately pre-planned, more grounded and less bombastic in how they treat their themes, but both writers create large pre-conceptualized mega arcs that reconstruct characters and show off their histories and strongest characteristics.

    Honestly, I'd like a break from that kind of expansive and lengthy storytelling after Hickman for a little bit. I've only read a few odds and ends issues by Al Ewing, but he'd totally fit the bill in changing the tone up in a good way. Also, Dennis Hopeless is a beast, and I hope Marvel has more waiting for him than a Greg Land Spider-Woman book. I'm not sure if Hopeless would get the Avengers voices right, but he could be a good choice as well.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Aaaand that sinched me dropping the book!

    The story has been alright but without Moore's art it doesn't hold its own on my pull list

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    It depends how the next couple issues go, but I'll probably keep reading it.

  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    Surprised Moore wasn't punched up to a bigger book, and then took that attention back to his creator owned stuff. A guest arc on Amazing Spider-Man or an Avenger book ( Mighty Avengers -Land +Moore = me buying) would have been sweet.

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  • InkSplatInkSplat 100%ed Bad Rats. Registered User regular
    So, female Thor, huh? Was not expecting that.

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    It's still written by Aaron, so I'm on board.

    Half the people flipping their shit on the internet don't even read Thor's current comic. Sigh.

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  • DJ EebsDJ Eebs Moderator, Administrator admin
    The art they have of the new Thor is fucking awesome. She's built like a brick shithouse

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    October Solicitations are up for Marvel, so far I see:

    3 issue Axis: Carnage mini by Rick Spears with German Peralta on art
    3 issue Axis: Hob-Goblin mini by Kevin Shinick with Javier Rodriguez on art
    4 issue "Axis Revolutions" mini by Dennis Hopeless with Ken Lashley on art
    4 issue "Deadpool: Art of War" mini by Peter David with Scott Koblish on art

    Also the Death of Wolverine: Legacy, Death of Wolverine: Captain America and Deadpool, Deathlok and Guardians of the Galaxy 3000 books mentioned earlier.

    Thunderbolts is ending.

    No Silver Surfer solicitiation.

    There's a Marvel Star Wars omnibus coming out

  • KyouguKyougu Registered User regular
    Fine with Thunderbolts ending, specially since Soule ended his run in a fantastic way.

  • BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    I bet this is just the end of this particular incarnation, I bet we get a new tbolts book with a new team fairly soon.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    wait, am I missing it or is Mighty Avengers missing from the October solicits?

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    No it totally is

    But Marvel is being weird with their solicits and keeping stuff like the Thor relaunch and, presumably, what Iron Man is going to be post-Gillen out of the solicits so they could just be waiting for an announcement

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Reminder that Comic-Con is the weekend after next. Bound to be a shit-ton of announcements then.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Reminder that Comic-Con is the weekend after next. Bound to be a shit-ton of announcements then.
    I'm expecting Iron Man before then though

    Last week they did the Cap tease
    This week is Thor
    Then Tony next week before the Comic-Con onslaught

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
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    Hmmm....

  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    I wonder if that's why Silver Surfer isn't on the solicits either.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
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    Hmmm....

    Aha! Toldja!

    Dang, must be a big overhaul/shake-up. I'm intrigued.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    edited July 2014
    Kyougu wrote: »
    Fine with Thunderbolts ending, specially since Soule ended his run in a fantastic way.

    Yeah, I can feel it winding down but it's definitely going out with a bang. It's been a helluva ride ever since they dumped Daniel Way.
    It's still written by Aaron, so I'm on board.

    Half the people flipping their shit on the internet don't even read Thor's current comic. Sigh.
    Pretty much everyone getting mad doesn't know shit about Thor at all, they're just mad because "ehrmagerd women." Meanwhile, everyone else familiar with the character has kinda reacted the same way: "Ok, he's been an alien space horse before too so sure, whatever." Judging by the press releases it sounds like she's gonna be another Beta Ray Bill anyway so it's not like anything too wild is going on here.

    I just can't wait for the inevitable triple Thor team up with this Thor, OG Thor, and Beta Ray Bill.

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  • Centipede DamascusCentipede Damascus Ho! Ho! Ho! Drink Coke!Registered User regular
    I kinda feel bad for Acker & Blacker, they didn't get to write very many issues.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Yeah

    I hope those dudes land a proper long form ongoing gig. They are super talented

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Knew Dauterman was going to get a bigger book.

    I guess odds are it's going to be an angel from Angela's world, since they're actually Asgardians now.

    I do find it a bit thick the whole "This is Thor, no Thorita," only because Thor is still around, just not worthy and probably using that Celestial killing axe and he's always been Thor. I mean, she is going to be called Thorita or something just to differentiate, like Bucky Cap or Spock, pushing back on that angle is a bit odd.

  • BullioBullio Registered User regular
    TexiKen wrote: »
    Knew Dauterman was going to get a bigger book.

    I guess odds are it's going to be an angel from Angela's world, since they're actually Asgardians now.

    I do find it a bit thick the whole "This is Thor, no Thorita," only because Thor is still around, just not worthy and probably using that Celestial killing axe and he's always been Thor. I mean, she is going to be called Thorita or something just to differentiate, like Bucky Cap or Spock, pushing back on that angle is a bit odd.

    There's nothing odd about it at all. There's a difference between fan shorthand and identities in the stories themselves. For the purpose of the story, she's Thor. What fans call her to differentiate her from all of the other versions of Thor is an entirely different matter.

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  • TOGSolidTOGSolid Drunk sailor Seattle, WashingtonRegistered User regular
    The art they have of the new Thor is fucking awesome. She's built like a brick shithouse
    I'm not particularly digging on the super-chaffing boob armor.

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  • WiseManTobesWiseManTobes Registered User regular
    The new girl for it looks pretty beef, if you had that kind of workout regimen you'd be pretty thor also

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  • TexiKenTexiKen Dammit! That fish really got me!Registered User regular
    Oh, wonder if they'll make Jane Foster the human host.

  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    The new girl for it looks pretty beef, if you had that kind of workout regimen you'd be pretty thor also

    Might need to take some athpirin.

  • NyhtNyht Registered User regular
    It's still written by Aaron, so I'm on board.

    Half the people flipping their shit on the internet don't even read Thor's current comic. Sigh.

    I'm not one of them as in I do read the current Thor and I'm not happy if this means the current Thor becomes a nothing because of this. Create a new awesome female character! All behind it. But they're POSSIBLY taking away a comic book character I love to do it. So I'm at least dropping Thor from my box and taking out Marvel until I understand what is happening entirely. Thor and Wolverine are my FAVORITE Marvel characters and really the only ones I have a vested interest in.

    As such, you can imagine that this year sucks for me.

    Now this is mostly fear on my part since no one seems to know yet what happens to normal Thor outside of "he makes a mistake and is no longer worthy" but those words don't fill me with hope. Maybe he'll at least still be an asgardian and not drained completely of all his powers but ... I'm running out of hope.

    tldr; Hurray new things for people to like! Boo taking away things that people already like.

  • InkSplatInkSplat 100%ed Bad Rats. Registered User regular
    Nyht wrote: »
    It's still written by Aaron, so I'm on board.

    Half the people flipping their shit on the internet don't even read Thor's current comic. Sigh.

    I'm not one of them as in I do read the current Thor and I'm not happy if this means the current Thor becomes a nothing because of this. Create a new awesome female character! All behind it. But they're POSSIBLY taking away a comic book character I love to do it. So I'm at least dropping Thor from my box and taking out Marvel until I understand what is happening entirely. Thor and Wolverine are my FAVORITE Marvel characters and really the only ones I have a vested interest in.

    As such, you can imagine that this year sucks for me.

    Now this is mostly fear on my part since no one seems to know yet what happens to normal Thor outside of "he makes a mistake and is no longer worthy" but those words don't fill me with hope. Maybe he'll at least still be an asgardian and not drained completely of all his powers but ... I'm running out of hope.

    tldr; Hurray new things for people to like! Boo taking away things that people already like.

    This is absolutely crazy. So you're dropping Thor before it even gets to the new run, simply because you don't know what will happen?

    It's an arc. Thor is still around--they've said as much, and showed him with his axe. He'll still be in the universe, but not going by Thor.

    Are you just "running out of hope" because it's a woman? If it were a male taking up the hammer, would you be more inclined to think it'd be interesting? This is an honest question, because you didn't give any reason.

    What is it that makes Thor stories interesting to you? Cause if it's Asgardian God of Thunder who smites dudes with a hammer, pretty sure you'll still be getting that even with a woman.

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  • UnbrokenEvaUnbrokenEva HIGH ON THE WIRE BUT I WON'T TRIP ITRegistered User regular
    yeah, it's the same writer that's currently writing Thor, this is just the next volume in the story Aaron's currently telling.

  • mxmarksmxmarks Registered User regular
    An announcement of a "new ongoing for a classic hero" will be made on Colbert tonight.

    SamCap?

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  • AutomaticzenAutomaticzen Registered User regular
    mxmarks wrote: »
    An announcement of a "new ongoing for a classic hero" will be made on Colbert tonight.

    SamCap?

    Probably. It's Colbert, so Captain America is a great guess.
    Nyht wrote: »
    It's still written by Aaron, so I'm on board.

    Half the people flipping their shit on the internet don't even read Thor's current comic. Sigh.

    I'm not one of them as in I do read the current Thor and I'm not happy if this means the current Thor becomes a nothing because of this. Create a new awesome female character! All behind it. But they're POSSIBLY taking away a comic book character I love to do it. So I'm at least dropping Thor from my box and taking out Marvel until I understand what is happening entirely. Thor and Wolverine are my FAVORITE Marvel characters and really the only ones I have a vested interest in.

    As such, you can imagine that this year sucks for me.

    Now this is mostly fear on my part since no one seems to know yet what happens to normal Thor outside of "he makes a mistake and is no longer worthy" but those words don't fill me with hope. Maybe he'll at least still be an asgardian and not drained completely of all his powers but ... I'm running out of hope.

    tldr; Hurray new things for people to like! Boo taking away things that people already like.

    I was once in that vein long ago, but the shuffle happens so much that I don't have the energy to be angry.

    I liked Prodigy, he came back. Scarlet Spider, halfway back. Wall West is gone, but I don't particularly hate new Wally West for it. Connor Hawke was gone, but he's back in Earth-2, or dead again... I can't tell. Dan Ketch was gone, back, and dead again. Ghost Rider was a lady and now he drives a car. There's just this constant ebb and flow of companies taking away characters I enjoy, bringing back characters I enjoy or hate, or making new characters I enjoy or hate. Just let it wash over you.

    Honestly, I guess I follow writers more than anything else now.

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  • Praxus1874Praxus1874 West Valley City, UTRegistered User regular
    With Falcon as Cap, it explains the need for some Mighty Avengers secrecy in the upcoming solicits, since he's a part of that team. I think it's going to be a real cool transition to have Mighty Avengers with a "Captain America" on it.

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  • Undead ScottsmanUndead Scottsman Cybertronian Paranormal Eliminator Registered User regular
    Apparently Slott was just late with his script for Silver Surfer, so that's why it's not on October solicitations.

  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Jason Aaron clarified a few things about the Thor relaunch:

    The identity of the new Thor is a secret to just about everyone but her, although God of Thunder is a good place to start looking for suspects.
    Thor Odinson, as he will be called, won't be the lead but will still be a big part of the book. Aaron says running into his past and future selves during the God Butcher arc threw off the timeline somehow and now he's off the charted path and becoming something of an amalgam of the three of them.
    Aaron very intentionally avoided using Loki for his run on God of Thunder but is bringing him in on the relaunch.
    The first story will have New Thor fighting off an invasion of Frost Giants on Earth.

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    I think it's totally fair to say "I like Thor's character, I don't think this direction really embraces the parts of the character I love, and I haven't seen anything to assume that this new character will be appealing to me in the same way that the old one was." I kind of feel that way myself, Thor is one of my favourite characters due to his nature as a God who values divinity the least and deserves it the most, the invincible champion of heroic virtue who was cast low and climbed back up etc etc etc. This direction for Thor doesn't seem to be that, and this new character doesn't seem to have that core origin story of the arrogant humbled (or maybe she does, you never know).

    But hey, Thor will be back as the God of Thunder at some point.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    Making assumptions about the New Thor seems really rash since literally all we know about her is that she was inspired after Thor saved her life

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  • SolarSolar Registered User regular
    Well I am assuming that the new Thor will not be the same character as the old Thor (otherwise what would be the point) and that old Thor is no longer worthy of Mjolnir (because we have been told that). So while new Thor might be a great character, I am a really big fan of Thor as is so they'll have to be pretty great to match that. Plus I don't like that direction for old Thor either.

    So yeah I am making a few assumptions, but at the same time they release this info to get people jazzed up. If it doesn't get people jazzed up that's a fair response too.

    Might be great, you never know. I'll read it and find out.

  • BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    edited July 2014
    Marvel are doing a 99c sale on X-Men comics from the Claremont/Silvestri/Lee era. Some good stuff there.

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