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Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED!Registered User regular
My current bed is some rather cheap mattress on top of an equally cheap (and slowly breaking) bed frame. It was all I was able to get due to being unemployed at the time. However, this is no longer the case. One of the main reasons I wish to wish to replace it is because I'm fairly sure it's causing me sleep problems and, as I said, the bed frame is breaking. So here's what I want to get:

1) It has to be decent sized. I am 6' 7" and currently have a twin XL mattress which just barely feels big enough. Would a queen/king be long enough? (I don't know how sizes work with regards to how long the mattresses are.)

2) Can't be ungodly expensive. Under 800 dollars for bed and frame would be great.

3) I'd like to avoid anything that requires additional upkeep/has "restrictions" such as a water or air mattress.

That's basically about it. I appreciate any help in this since I'm tired of waking up with my entire body being fairly sore.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    I'm right about 6'/6'1" and on our queen if my pillow isn't as far up as it goes my feet make it almost to the bottom of the bed when my legs are straight. At your height a queen might be too small unless you're a curler or sleep diagonally across the bed.
    I can't really address points 2 or 3, since I went from having a crappy 10+ year old bed with no frame that I inherited from my ex-sister-in-law to a tempurpedic when we moved.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    edited July 2014
    http://www.beddingexperts.com/mattress-sizes-chart/

    According to this, queen and king are the same length as Twin XL. I think King would be pretty excessive so Queen would work. Just need to decide on material and frame now.

    http://www.amazon.com/Best-Price-Mattress-Pressure-California/dp/B00HCZ0YHK/ref=sr_1_1?s=furniture&ie=UTF8&qid=1404669054&sr=1-1&keywords=mattress

    I was considering that. California Kings are less wide but longer.

    Magus` on
  • EntriechEntriech ? ? ? ? ? Ontario, CanadaRegistered User regular
    You may want to take a trip to a local mattress store to lay down on a bunch of beds, to see what feels good/not good for you. Definitely don't buy one there if you can help it, the markup is rotten, but nothing beats actually laying on something to get a sense for how comfortable/not it is, and how you fit on it.

    They industry does its best to make comparison between retailers difficult, but you can generally figure it out with a bit of effort.

    Ikea sells mattresses, and their price point will likely be low enough to compete with online, so you might consider going to one and laying on their stuff.

    As a tall dude, you may want to think about mattress height with box spring, as well as overall area. There's something to be said for being able to slide out of bed vs get up and out.

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Check out the goodwill or other consignment / charity run stores in your area (ARC is another good one).

    No, you wont be browsing shitty used beds, often times when being manufactured there are mattresses that get produced that have mis-matching fabric, or a double seam line. Things which no one actually gives a shit about unless you're in a habit of leaving your bed without a fitted sheet most of the time. You can get a pretty huge discount. I bought my current box spring and mattress for around 600$ from a discounter, queen size and worth at least triple.

    I'm also of the opinion that frames are stupid, I sleep much better with the box spring directly on the floor with the mattress on top of it. It doesn't squeak when I move around and stays still.

  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Bed frames leave the bed underneath open, meaning you could use some storage bins to hold extra sheets, towels, and whatever else you like under your bed and free up closet space.

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    I don't have a box spring. Are they even necessary?

  • DevoutlyApatheticDevoutlyApathetic Registered User regular
    Magus` wrote: »
    I don't have a box spring. Are they even necessary?

    Eh.

    According to most mattress warranties they are.

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  • WassermeloneWassermelone Registered User regular
    Box springs are support for your mattress so it doesn't sag.

    If you have a frame with slats that are close enough (I think 2-3 inches apart?) you don't need one. Otherwise a boxspring will increase the life of your mattress.

  • PantshandshakePantshandshake Registered User regular
    Alternately, a captain's bed.

  • The EnderThe Ender Registered User regular
    I don't know if this is the kind of thing you'd like, but I got this thing from Wal Mart. It is lightweight, inexpensive, comfortable and stands up to some abuse.

    Plus you can say, "Fuck it. I'd rather have a couch right now," and poof, suddenly you have a couch!

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  • DhalphirDhalphir don't you open that trapdoor you're a fool if you dareRegistered User regular
    King sizes feel way bigger than a Queen, far more so than the actual size difference would suggest. If you ever have or plan to sleep with another person in the bed, a king vs queen is night and day.

  • DaimarDaimar A Million Feet Tall of Awesome Registered User regular
    I'm 6'7" and sleep in a queen, my feet do hang over the edge if I sleep straight but most of the time I am on my side and partially curl up. When I do sleep straight I don't mind my feet hanging over the edge since I've gotten used to it over the years.

    With regards to king vs queen I went with the Super Queen option...two queen sized beds of equal height right next to each other. I can get used to my feet over the edge, but I'd get no sleep if I woke up every time my GF moved next to me.

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  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    I used to sell bedding in a former life, and my family owns a furniture store.

    Twin x-long / Queen / King are all the same length. yo could try a California King which is 84" as opposed to 80" but be prepared to forever more have a hard time with bedding linens.

    A mattress needs a foundation to prevent sagging. This can be done with a foundation, which is just an upholstered wooden box, or with a slat system. yo can get low profile foundations if bed height is a consideration. Boxsprings are different then a foundation and generally more expensive. they have springs in them and contribute to the support of the mattress. in general the box spring provides like 60% of the support of the system. So if you put a new mattress on top of an old boxspring, yo will have a crappy mattress in record time!

    you should be turning your mattress regularly. at first every time you change your sheets, then later once a quarter. ideally you will have a 2 sided mattress and can do half turns and flips (with a queen) but a lot of mattress are 1 sided now and profess to not require the flip, which is bull crap and you are just getting less mattress then you used to.

    Do go lay down on a bunch of mattresses. I mean feet off the floor, snuggled up like you will be in bed, ideally for a couple minutes. Ask the sales person to leave if it makes you nervous to have him hovering while you do this.

    Firmer is not better, you want support. it sounds like your a back or maybe a belly sleeper. you want something that will contour to your body. do you enjoy sleeping on the floor? cause the floor is FIRM.

    Don't cheap out for the sake of cheaping out. You are going to spend a third of every day in this mattress. Then the quality of the other 2/3 will be dictated by how well that went.

    Also, new mattresses can take a week or 2 to get used to.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    I just came to say that I love how in a little more than 24 hours you can post on Penny Arcade and find a guy who used to sell beds.

    1) Just don't fuck around and buy cheap, man, a good bed is everything.

    2) You're nearly a seven foot tall mutant - get a king.

    3) Yes, you need a box spring.

    4) You need to go out and lay on actual mattresses (mattressi?) and see how they feel. This is going to take a while.

    5) Negotiate, god dammit! Find something you like, ask the sales guy, free delivery? Probably. Don't agree to anything, come back a few days later, talk. This is going to be an experience, don't buy this shit online or at first sight you're going to regret it.

    I know, bed's are expensive, man. You don't want to spend a lot of money, but with some real legwork you'll find a piece to last you for several years in comfort. It's not anything to skimp on.

    Full disclosure, I used to sleep on a shitty Craig's List (God only knows what happened to it before I got it) twin mattress until I met my lady and now we sleep on her pillow top king that was sewn by angels using God's own beard as thread. The difference is something that one would need to use haiku to fully express.

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  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    You absolutely need a box spring or a foundation (for memory foam beds) unless you have a very specific kind of bed (sometimes refereed to as a platform bed). Since you're buying a whole setup new, it's unlikely you have this.

    If you get a memory foam bed, you don't want a box spring, you want a foundation. Very specific but important difference. Any decent bed sales person should cover this, but you never know.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User regular
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    now we sleep on her pillow top king that was sewn by angels using God's own beard as thread. The difference is something that one would need to use haiku to fully express.
    Had a Shitty Bed
    And then I met my lady
    Now we sleep on God.

    Or something.

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  • FiggyFiggy Fighter of the night man Champion of the sunRegistered User regular
    The Ender wrote: »
    I don't know if this is the kind of thing you'd like, but I got this thing from Wal Mart. It is lightweight, inexpensive, comfortable and stands up to some abuse.

    Plus you can say, "Fuck it. I'd rather have a couch right now," and poof, suddenly you have a couch!

    If you get a futon, for all that is holy make sure the mattress is a spring one. Otherwise you're sleeping on a well stuffed pillow that will feel less and less stuffed as weeks go by.

    But in general, you want an actual bed. Futons generally aren't amazing for support.

    You've got some really good advice so far about shopping around and trying things out. One more for box springs: get one. They aren't expensive. You can find them for like $50 at liquidators and the like.

    Unless you're weird and it absolutely has to match the fabric of your mattress, or something.

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  • Pure DinPure Din Boston-areaRegistered User regular
    edited July 2014
    You should also consider getting a split frame boxspring or foundation. Some houses or apartments are too narrow to fit a one piece boxspring, and I know a few people who had a bed that fit in their home, but then they moved and ended up leaving a perfectly good bedframe and boxspring on the street.

    I only paid about $100 extra for the split boxspring, plus a bedframe with extra legs to support the split in the middle.
    The Ender wrote: »
    I don't know if this is the kind of thing you'd like, but I got this thing from Wal Mart. It is lightweight, inexpensive, comfortable and stands up to some abuse.

    Plus you can say, "Fuck it. I'd rather have a couch right now," and poof, suddenly you have a couch!

    Don't do this. I have a futon (which I use as a guestbed/couch), and it's not a good bed. The person who owned it before me used it as a bed for three years, and now the mattress is all lumpy and hard in the places where it has been compressed, plus a weird ridge down the middle from where the stuffing shifted in couch mode. Also it makes weird noises when people *cough cough* move around in bed *cough cough* which is super awkward...

    Pure Din on
  • GnomeTankGnomeTank What the what? Portland, OregonRegistered User regular
    Futons are terrible beds. I slept on one for years as a twenty something, and they are terrible.

    I'm sure with enough money you can get a "good futon", but why? Just take any extra money you'd spend to get a "good futon" and buy a better mattress.

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  • curly haired boycurly haired boy Your Friendly Neighborhood Torgue Dealer Registered User regular
    gonna be buying a new bed set later this year, bookmarking this for later

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  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    Sadly I don't have a mattress selling store anywhere close by (outside maybe Wal-mart, do they do that?) - thus the reason I pretty much am gonna have to get something online. I'll keep all this info in mind, however.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    if you're in the mood for some reading, http://www.sleeplikethedead.com/ and http://www.themattressunderground.com/ have great info, especially on memory foam.

  • DjeetDjeet Registered User regular
    The type of futon mattresses that make for good beds aren't bendy enough to fold up well for couch utilization.

  • zagdrobzagdrob Registered User regular
    If you're looking to buy a mattress, look for a local 'freight' furniture store - something like 'American Freight'. It'll generally be a moderately crappy location, bare bones (warehouse style) building, but the prices are generally going to be much better than you would find at a nicer furniture store. With a little shopping, you should be able to find a pretty good queen mattress and box spring for $500 - give or take. You'll probably need a new box spring for the warranty, and it doesn't add too much to the price.

    Sams Club and Costco also carry mattresses, but I'm not sure what the price range would be. Sears is another place that carries mattresses.

    I wouldn't buy a used mattress ever. If it's not sealed in plastic from the factory, it's not coming into my house. I'm exceptionally paranoid about bedbugs though. A frame from Goodwill or somewhere similar would be fine though - metal or wood, headboard or not, it doesn't have to be fancy.

    If you're a bigger guy, you'll definitely want a bed with a frame and box spring. Stuff like an Ikea futon just isn't durable for long-term use in my experience. Great guest bed, not something you want to use every night.

    Try laying on a few different mattresses to find one you like. A good memory foam mattress is a bit more expensive, but a traditional pillow top is pretty nice. Keep in mind that a pillow top doesn't last as long as a non-pillow top traditional mattress because you can't flip it.

  • DaMoonRulzDaMoonRulz Mare ImbriumRegistered User regular
    @Magus`‌ If you tend to be warm in bed, be aware that memory foam cushions tend to soak up heat. I can't use one because I'll be a sweaty mess by morning.

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  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    @Magus`‌ If you tend to be warm in bed, be aware that memory foam cushions tend to soak up heat. I can't use one because I'll be a sweaty mess by morning.

    Get the right sheets and this problem goes away. At least for me, just some not too soft sheets do the trick on our memory foam mattress.

  • bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Djeet wrote: »
    The type of futon mattresses that make for good beds aren't bendy enough to fold up well for couch utilization.

    "Are mattresses"

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  • ShogunShogun Hair long; money long; me and broke wizards we don't get along Registered User regular
    I have a memory foam mattress that is no longer in production. It is still pretty awesome to this day and I have owned it since 2005. It is a queen size and has easily slept me and another over the years. I'm not as tall as you though 6'1 maybe 6'2. They do get warm, but this can be mitigated with a quality mattress pad which you should be considering anyway. Also be aware that intimacy with partners can be different from a typical spring mattress. They do not have that bounce or pushback, but they are fine sex-wise. The good part is they are quiet.

    A solid platform or foundation of some kind is necessary. I built mine myself out of plywood and stock I had in the garage. Initially I used two box-springs together and this was a terrible idea. Whatever your platform is make sure it is solid and properly supported. These beds are considerably heavier than your typical mattress. They are not what I would call easy to move. Moving the queen size bed with the strength of your average man is quite challenging especially if you need to get it up on its side. The weight, the shape, the way the foam behaves it is just incredibly cumbersome.

    The only complaint I have about the bed and this isn't really a complaint. When you wake up you sort of have to physically climb out of the bed. Its not like a normal bed where you can just sit up and slide out. You're sort of sunk into the foam and while it is ungodly comfortable getting out can be like climbing a small hill.

  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    DaMoonRulz wrote: »
    @Magus`‌ If you tend to be warm in bed, be aware that memory foam cushions tend to soak up heat. I can't use one because I'll be a sweaty mess by morning.

    Good memory foam these days includes gel layers and whatnot that combat this. I haven't had issues and I'm generally described as a nuclear furnace.

  • MegaMan001MegaMan001 CRNA Rochester, MNRegistered User regular
    Hahnsoo1 wrote: »
    MegaMan001 wrote: »
    now we sleep on her pillow top king that was sewn by angels using God's own beard as thread. The difference is something that one would need to use haiku to fully express.
    Had a Shitty Bed
    And then I met my lady
    Now we sleep on God.

    Or something.

    Well this is going on the back of my new softball t-shirt.

    I am in the business of saving lives.
  • azith28azith28 Registered User regular
    Unless your new job happens to encourage embezzlement, I do not suggest looking for a matress at a furniture store. You can get a pretty good matress for a lot less at Sam's Club or a specific matress store. I've got a queen, I'm 5'10" and its fine, just keep in mind that you will need a queen sized (or double smaller) boxspring, and while you might get a queen matress up some stairs easily, the queen boxspring will likely need to go through a window since it doesnt bend.

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  • BlargdonBlargdon Deadly Handsome Man houstonRegistered User regular
    I am also in the market for a new bed. I've been seriously looking at these.

    From what I have heard good quality, good sleep, and relatively inexpensive compared to mattress stores. But I do not claim to be an expert.

    Though I am 6'5"+, and I vouch for getting a King. My wife and I shared a full when we were poor grad students, then upgraded to queen, then to king as our incomes accommodated. Words do not exist in the English language to express magnitude of improvement in quality of life as a whole as you go up each level.

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