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I'm thinking about jumping into the current generation of consoles and I'm leaning towards a PS4 because of anecdotal evidence (better pure game console, better performance on third party games, better controller) but I'm looking at the $350 XBONEs and now I'm wondering if there's really that much of a difference. I don't really care about exclusives either way.
Anybody have both that can help? Or one or the other that they feel strongly about?
It's fairly even imho particularly if you don't care about exclusives.
That having been said, my biggest concern about the Xb1 (and I know this is probably irrational) is that at the reveal and E3 it was billed as being an extremely different piece of hardware that was hastily redesigned to make it more in line with what gamers wanted (no blocks on resale, kinect no longer required, online check ins disabled etc); They basicaly had to rengineer the console in about 2 months in order to be able to mass produce it for the holiday season. As such, I'm worried about the inherent stability of the console and if we'll get a next gen "red ring" fiasco.
Hardware wise they're pretty close to even. Right now the PS4 seems to be putting out better results mainly because of an emphasis on developer tools. i don't expect that to continue forever.
Sales wise PS4 is still strongly winning so it looks like it is the new "primary" console for development with the XB1 taking the position of the PS3 last gen of the machine that gets the ports.
Be aware the online multi on PS4 needs PS+. That comes with some free games and all that through mostly older titles. They were excellent a year ago, lately they're less impressive. Xbox has been doing something similar lately though.
As for community they both have a chunk of PA'ers on there and active though we may have split slightly heavier towards PS4.
For me personally I ended up going PS4 strictly because of the attitude that Sony was put forth compared to MS's at E3 and launch. MS has done quite a bit to try and turn the ship but that was very late in the dev cycle. I've been tempted by the 350 xboxes but for one or two games a year it doesn't seem worth it.
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As a rule, the PS4 is the stronger console from a graphical / gaming standpoint. Keep in mind, the xBone has a beefier CPU for the multi-tasking, which may factor in the future. As it stands though, whatever the xBone and the PS4 gets, they will run the same or slightly better on PS4.
Media wise, see Bowen's first comment.
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I went with the xbox because of the same reason I've always gone with it. The controller feels much better. Also, xbox gets the shooters more, and I play lots of those. Historically, the 360 tended to be less exploded for online gaming, where PS3 service went on and off. Kinect is pretty fun. Feels like the future, yelling at my TV to pause.
Honestly though, they are very similar at this point. The main thing is what your friends have. My friends all have xbox, so we do that.
That, or if you want JRPGs, probably PlayStation.
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PS4 GPU is about 50% stronger, and the Xbox CPU isn't beefier - they're identical really, the Xbox CPU is just clocked very slightly higher, but it uses a lot of it for all the system shit so it doesn't really matter. PS4, across the board, has higher resolutions and shit in every multiplatform game. It's just more powerful.
I just got an Xbox One, and I personally prefer the UI a lot more, and think it's a LOT better for media and other things too. I really like my Xbox, and would choose it over the PS4 if I wanted to use it for a lot more media things and not just video games. Being able to just throw up full screen 1080p twitch streams is pretty damn awesome, for example, and AFAIK the PS4 still doesn't have a twitch app to do that. It's awesome for watching random gaming tournaments etc.
If you're only using the system for gaming, I'd take a PS4 - but really, the biggest factor should be whether or not you have any friends with either system, and should probably buy the one they have.
Also, for Black Friday, the PS4 deals are pretty incredible - $400 for a PS4 with both GTA 5 and Last of Us Remastered? That is insane. Those are two of the best games ever.
Visually speaking, the vast majority of games really won't matter. It really means nothing that the PS4 is more powerful, it's not by much. Much like last get with 360 vs ps3. A few first party games will look a bit nicer potentially.
The multi plats being better on PS4 right now is more towards it being the lead dev console. Much like the 360 had the better multi plats for awhile. As the tool kits they use get more mature those differences will likely be entirely gone.
I'll get both, but I went with the XB1 first because I like the controller MUCH more, and the current/upcoming exclusives were more attractive to me. The multi's were a non issue since they are virtually identical.
So as to which to get?
I'd say the most important things to look at, some of which were brought up already:
1) What are your friends playing? If majority are on one, get that.
2) Any exclusives that matter? Series, current games, etc.
3) Anything else that matters (controller for instance).
Don't take someone's word for it that one controller is better than another, go ask someone at a Gamestop to get one of each out, and compare the feel.
One thing is for certain this generation. How carefully you make your game purchases will go a lot farther in delivering good value for money than your choice of system. The days of "it's a AAA release, that's got to mean something" are in the past, if they ever truly existed at all.
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One thing of note is that the PS4 is opening a pretty big sales lead-thus the $350 hail mary holiday bundles from Microsoft. I think the install base is roughly double the XB1 at this point. If it keeps opening up you may see better games/version on it just because it is the main dev target rather than the secondary. Although the hardware is infinitely more compatible between the two than last gen, so it may be less of an issue this time around.
The install base on the two is apparently closing now, but the PS4 is definitely still way ahead. That said, they've both outsold the last gen, so it's not like there's not enough consoles sold to justify both markets.
It really is just: "Where are most of your friends playing" followed by "Is there really an exclusive you need?"
I went Xbone because I like the multimedia shit and I have friends on it, but I really don't think you could be dissatisfied with either choice this gen.
If it keeps opening up you may see better games/version on it just because it is the main dev target rather than the secondary. Although the hardware is infinitely more compatible between the two than last gen, so it may be less of an issue this time around.
That's already the case for the majority of multi plat games. But it's not really going to make a difference past a year or two, if that. Just like last gen they get used to working on both systems and their workflow/tools mature to make the best out of both.
Only this time around the systems are much closer to each other than the 360/ps3 were spec/architecture wise, so I wouldn't imagine it will be very long at all till the differences in multi platform games comes down to exclusive content, not performance.
The exclusive stuff on the PS4 is where they extra muscle will be flexed, but even then I wouldn't imagine very many devs would be able to make a game to really make a huge difference out of it.
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XBone = media console that plays video games
PS4 = video game console that plays media
I don't like the way Xbox handles multiplayer and their services and all that. Take that as it is, just my opinion.
That having been said, my biggest concern about the Xb1 (and I know this is probably irrational) is that at the reveal and E3 it was billed as being an extremely different piece of hardware that was hastily redesigned to make it more in line with what gamers wanted (no blocks on resale, kinect no longer required, online check ins disabled etc); They basicaly had to rengineer the console in about 2 months in order to be able to mass produce it for the holiday season. As such, I'm worried about the inherent stability of the console and if we'll get a next gen "red ring" fiasco.
You'll probably be fine either way though.
Sales wise PS4 is still strongly winning so it looks like it is the new "primary" console for development with the XB1 taking the position of the PS3 last gen of the machine that gets the ports.
Be aware the online multi on PS4 needs PS+. That comes with some free games and all that through mostly older titles. They were excellent a year ago, lately they're less impressive. Xbox has been doing something similar lately though.
As for community they both have a chunk of PA'ers on there and active though we may have split slightly heavier towards PS4.
For me personally I ended up going PS4 strictly because of the attitude that Sony was put forth compared to MS's at E3 and launch. MS has done quite a bit to try and turn the ship but that was very late in the dev cycle. I've been tempted by the 350 xboxes but for one or two games a year it doesn't seem worth it.
Media wise, see Bowen's first comment.
Honestly though, they are very similar at this point. The main thing is what your friends have. My friends all have xbox, so we do that.
That, or if you want JRPGs, probably PlayStation.
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And if exclusives don't matter, 350 will get you a good machine with good games with many more coming.
I just got an Xbox One, and I personally prefer the UI a lot more, and think it's a LOT better for media and other things too. I really like my Xbox, and would choose it over the PS4 if I wanted to use it for a lot more media things and not just video games. Being able to just throw up full screen 1080p twitch streams is pretty damn awesome, for example, and AFAIK the PS4 still doesn't have a twitch app to do that. It's awesome for watching random gaming tournaments etc.
If you're only using the system for gaming, I'd take a PS4 - but really, the biggest factor should be whether or not you have any friends with either system, and should probably buy the one they have.
Also, for Black Friday, the PS4 deals are pretty incredible - $400 for a PS4 with both GTA 5 and Last of Us Remastered? That is insane. Those are two of the best games ever.
The multi plats being better on PS4 right now is more towards it being the lead dev console. Much like the 360 had the better multi plats for awhile. As the tool kits they use get more mature those differences will likely be entirely gone.
I'll get both, but I went with the XB1 first because I like the controller MUCH more, and the current/upcoming exclusives were more attractive to me. The multi's were a non issue since they are virtually identical.
So as to which to get?
I'd say the most important things to look at, some of which were brought up already:
1) What are your friends playing? If majority are on one, get that.
2) Any exclusives that matter? Series, current games, etc.
3) Anything else that matters (controller for instance).
Personally if you're big in to multiplayer I'd go with whichever one all your friends are using.
If you don't care about that I'd go with whichever one has exclusives you want more.
One thing is for certain this generation. How carefully you make your game purchases will go a lot farther in delivering good value for money than your choice of system. The days of "it's a AAA release, that's got to mean something" are in the past, if they ever truly existed at all.
What? I'm firmly in the PS4 camp here, don't get me wrong, but that is pure unfiltered baloney.
Cite, please.
It really is just: "Where are most of your friends playing" followed by "Is there really an exclusive you need?"
I went Xbone because I like the multimedia shit and I have friends on it, but I really don't think you could be dissatisfied with either choice this gen.
That's already the case for the majority of multi plat games. But it's not really going to make a difference past a year or two, if that. Just like last gen they get used to working on both systems and their workflow/tools mature to make the best out of both.
Only this time around the systems are much closer to each other than the 360/ps3 were spec/architecture wise, so I wouldn't imagine it will be very long at all till the differences in multi platform games comes down to exclusive content, not performance.
The exclusive stuff on the PS4 is where they extra muscle will be flexed, but even then I wouldn't imagine very many devs would be able to make a game to really make a huge difference out of it.