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Games that should of been amazing but failed instead.

Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better.Registered User regular
So I'm playing an unhealthy amount of Diablo 3 lately. This got me thinking about other diabloish games and one of the most promising looking game of 2007. I mean look at this CGI trailer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4ID0i7_N0g

I remember first watching that trailer and having my mind explode. I mean, holy shit, a Diablo game (made by former Diablo developers IIRC) in a future with badass tech and magic in both 1st and 3rd person?! THE FUUUUUCCCK! Sadly this was the beginning of micro-transactions and there was a pretty obvious pay-2-be-awesome subscription fee. They even have the balls to offer a 'life time subscription' deal where you fork out $150 in order to have access to the 'elite tier' for the lifetime of the game; ontop of paying full price for the game to begin with.

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Ultimately, the game was rushed to be released and what we got was.....garbage. It was rather apparent that this game was far from done and Flagship Studio simply didn't have their wits together. In-game advertisements, bugs galore, above mentioned subscription tiers, gameplay and story was paper thin, and barely a single polish to be found. Simply put, it was one of the biggest disappointments of its time.

But, man, I still get hyped every time I watch that trailer. The art direction, lore, and possibilities all clicked with me perfectly.

So anyone want to list a game that should of been awesome but was hot garbage instead?

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  • Johnny ChopsockyJohnny Chopsocky Scootaloo! We have to cook! Grillin' HaysenburgersRegistered User regular
    Dead To Rights.

    I mean, just look at this intro movie.
    http://youtu.be/06tGLDwkDf0

    How shit-hot was that? That was like pure joy for my inner John Woo fanboy. I was hyped to the gills for this.

    But man, the game just didn't control well at all, and that fucking prison level. I beat the game, but man by the end I felt like I was fulfilling an obligation rather than enjoying myself at all.

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  • urahonkyurahonky Cynical Old Man Registered User regular
    GASP. @Casually Hardcore‌ I loved Hellgate London! I actually really miss that game...

  • StericaSterica Yes Registered User, Moderator mod
    edited November 2014
    Brink...

    I'll go into details later

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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    I think I remember reading that they basically ran out of money after releasing Hellgate. The game itself was at least as good as many games of that type that are released and eventually with continued support and patches end out played for years... They just didn't do the part where it gets tuned and fixed.

    Brink was just... I don't know. It pissed me off though.

  • SeidkonaSeidkona Had an upgrade Registered User regular
    Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning.

    This is a game that should have been about epic battles between factions in large scale areas but what it was was an unbalanced mess with horrible optimization. In a game where pvp was the main focus of the game putting in unbalanced class archetypes that were sort of supposed to act the same function with different mechanics just didn't work most of the time. These were all things you would be upset about if you could get the damn thing to run above 5 fps or even at all.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNGuR8SO9xk

    I upgraded my PC for this.

    So much potential. So very terrible.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Entaru wrote: »
    Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning.

    This is a game that should have been about epic battles between factions in large scale areas but what it was was an unbalanced mess with horrible optimization. In a game where pvp was the main focus of the game putting in unbalanced class archetypes that were sort of supposed to act the same function with different mechanics just didn't work most of the time. These were all things you would be upset about if you could get the damn thing to run above 5 fps or even at all.

    SO much can be said about it's Story alone

  • Casually HardcoreCasually Hardcore Once an Asshole. Trying to be better. Registered User regular
    urahonky wrote: »
    GASP. @Casually Hardcore‌ I loved Hellgate London! I actually really miss that game...

    That's the thing. There's a good game in there; and I think some other company brought up the assets and did something decent with it. There's even a sequel called Hellgate Tokyo that I might check out whenever it's released. But you have to understand that Hellgate London was suppose to be the 'Diablo 3' of its time. The hype train was supersonic at its peak and then it ultimately just tripped over its own dick. A huge shame.
    Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning.

    Don't get me fucking started on this one. I was 100% on board with this game during its concept. You know what killed it for me? Look at this Ork:

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    Why in the world is an Ork wearing a goddamn cape? I mean, why in the fuck.....just....god damn it. Granted, this is just fanboy nitpicking but the moment I saw an Ork wearing a fucking cape was the moment when I started to realize that Warhammer Online was not the MMO we all wanted and deserved.

  • UnbreakableVowUnbreakableVow Registered User regular
    You know

    I'm looking at this thread and trying to think of any examples but honestly, none are coming to mind

    There have been disappointments, to be sure. Whether some pretty bad missteps in long-running series (Assassin's Creed Revelations, Final Fantasy XIII) or disappointing changes in direction (Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Jak 2), I can't think of any titles that have been disastrous enough to just completely stop me in my tracks.

    Like, I'd really love to say Warrior Within for this, because The Sands of Time was one of my favorite games of the PS2 gen, hell it was practically a perfect game, and then for them to follow up with that absolute garbage was completely heartbreaking. But it never looked cool at any stage of its development - as soon as I saw the first screenshots, my immediate thoughts were "this looks horrid," and then the game came out, and it was. But at least the marketing was honest.

  • MadpoetMadpoet Registered User regular
    Not really failures, but complete failure to live up to hype:
    Spore. So much potential wasted. The game that was described early sounded so good, but it seems all they could get working was the alien race generator, so they slapped it into some dumb minigames and called it a day.

    Black and White. Six levels of tutorial on how to train your pet, then they take it away, then you're done.

  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Blood Bowl. Oh sure, it sold okat, they're even making a BB two, and released Dungeonbowl. But the people that actually get hyped for Blood Bowl were fucked by that game.

    Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom. They took everything shitty about WoW and crammed it into a shitty game. All stick, no carrot. Putting it under the KUF brand got me so goddamn excited too bexause shit yeah Kingdom Under Fire.

  • Fleur de AlysFleur de Alys Biohacker Registered User regular
    My list would be branded as heresy worthy of being burned alive I'm sure. So when you ask for games that "failed" -- you looking for games that just didn't work for that given poster, or games that were universally acknowledged as being shit?

    I mean, just as an example, two recent additions to my list of "disappointingly garbage" would be Frozen Synapse and Assassin's Creed IV: Black Flag.

    Yeah...

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  • firewaterwordfirewaterword Satchitananda Pais Vasco to San FranciscoRegistered User regular
    Fable.

    Still waiting for that tree to grow...

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  • JarsJars Registered User regular
    Destiny

  • RainfallRainfall Registered User regular
    Deus Ex: Invisible War

    Only weeping remains.

  • Jealous DevaJealous Deva Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Blood Bowl. Oh sure, it sold okat, they're even making a BB two, and released Dungeonbowl. But the people that actually get hyped for Blood Bowl were fucked by that game.

    Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom. They took everything shitty about WoW and crammed it into a shitty game. All stick, no carrot. Putting it under the KUF brand got me so goddamn excited too bexause shit yeah Kingdom Under Fire.

    What exactly was wrong with Bloodbowl? Sure it had a crappy realtime mode but turnbased was pretty much straight from tabletop aside from some bugs that were patched out eventually.

  • DarkPrimusDarkPrimus Registered User regular
    Had WAR gotten an extra 6 months dev time before being released it would have been a much better game. Instead they were forced to rush to market in order to try and beat the WoW expansion of the time and in the process ended up selling a game that under-delivered and they couldn't maintain the numbers to keep up dev support to get everything in the game.

    But oh my god I had so much good times in WAR. I really regret that I couldn't get the mess of my old account sorted out in order to reinstall it for one last visit before they shut the servers down for good.

  • DocshiftyDocshifty Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Blood Bowl. Oh sure, it sold okat, they're even making a BB two, and released Dungeonbowl. But the people that actually get hyped for Blood Bowl were fucked by that game.

    Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom. They took everything shitty about WoW and crammed it into a shitty game. All stick, no carrot. Putting it under the KUF brand got me so goddamn excited too bexause shit yeah Kingdom Under Fire.

    What exactly was wrong with Bloodbowl? Sure it had a crappy realtime mode but turnbased was pretty much straight from tabletop aside from some bugs that were patched out eventually.

    There were numerous terrible bugs that never were patched out involving rerolling winnings, hiring mercs permanently after a match, constant connection losses, no rejoining, to name a few.

  • David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    Hey, remember how that new SimCity game came out and was deep and involving and revitalized the franchise and certainly didn't feel at all like a Facebook game upscaled beyond the breaking point?

    *sigh*

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Blood Bowl. Oh sure, it sold okat, they're even making a BB two, and released Dungeonbowl. But the people that actually get hyped for Blood Bowl were fucked by that game.

    Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom. They took everything shitty about WoW and crammed it into a shitty game. All stick, no carrot. Putting it under the KUF brand got me so goddamn excited too bexause shit yeah Kingdom Under Fire.

    What exactly was wrong with Bloodbowl? Sure it had a crappy realtime mode but turnbased was pretty much straight from tabletop aside from some bugs that were patched out eventually.

    There were numerous terrible bugs that never were patched out involving rerolling winnings, hiring mercs permanently after a match, constant connection losses, no rejoining, to name a few.

    ... every pass is a Hail Mary Pass unless you remember to turn that off on your passer every round, no idea how "DLC" works ...

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    edited November 2014
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Docshifty wrote: »
    Blood Bowl. Oh sure, it sold okat, they're even making a BB two, and released Dungeonbowl. But the people that actually get hyped for Blood Bowl were fucked by that game.

    Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom. They took everything shitty about WoW and crammed it into a shitty game. All stick, no carrot. Putting it under the KUF brand got me so goddamn excited too bexause shit yeah Kingdom Under Fire.

    What exactly was wrong with Bloodbowl? Sure it had a crappy realtime mode but turnbased was pretty much straight from tabletop aside from some bugs that were patched out eventually.

    There were numerous terrible bugs that never were patched out involving rerolling winnings, hiring mercs permanently after a match, constant connection losses, no rejoining, to name a few.

    The fact that early-buy enthusiasts were fucked in the ass by being forced to rebuy the goddamned game 2-4 times to fucking get the goddamn extra races? FUCK.

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  • Albino BunnyAlbino Bunny Jackie Registered User regular
    Blood Bowl felt like Cyanide taking a look at what EA sports does with it's exclusive access to sports IP and going 'yeah, we can be shitter to fans than those money milkers are'.

    And I still brought every one of them except dungeon ball.

    Which makes me kinda angry. Especially considering it hardly ever connected me and my friend when we wanted to play.

  • ButtcleftButtcleft Registered User regular
    Fable PC for me, because I bought it and literally played all of 5-10 minutes in game before I exited it and eventually uninstalled.

    Why? Because it had the most horrid camera of any game I ever played. The camera was so bad that it gave me one of the worst migraines I ever had, that lasted almost all day, that rendered me incapable of doing anything but burying my face in the pillow so light couldn't hit my eyes.

  • JurgJurg In a TeacupRegistered User regular
    Lunar Dragon Song, easy. Lunar 1 and 2 are fantastic old school JRPGs. Lunar Dragon Song is a serious contender for worst JRPG ever. Music was alright though.

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  • Grunt's GhostsGrunt's Ghosts Registered User regular
    I can think of a few games...

    The Last of Us. It wasn't a game that changed gaming the way everybody was talking. I had just finished Dishonored before and everything about the AI in that game was better then TLoU. The story was predictable and the characters were so stupid.
    Joel knew how the fungus worked and knew that the hospital was going to kill the girl the whole time but decided to bring her to the place anyway?

    Destiny. Read the thread and you'll know why. Poor story, lack of content, boring boss fights, bugs from hell. It feels like an early beta instead of a full game. And Bungie keeps taking a step forward and falls six steps back.

    GTA:O. Ok, so GTAV was good. I loved it. And sure GTA:O was just something they added in addition to the game but wow it was terrible. Poor players and so many broken promises. It's been a year since its release and the one thing they promised more then anything was Heist and here we are a year later and nothing.

  • BlueBlueBlueBlue Registered User regular
    brawl

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  • Regina FongRegina Fong Allons-y, Alonso Registered User regular
    Civ V (at launch). Oh sure, they DLC'ed it up to a fine game but I'm not counting that, because that took months and months after I paid full price for the game, before they eventually put the finishing touches on the launch version of the game and expected me to pay full price for it... again.

    When it launched it was such a dramatic step backward from Civ IV that it seemed like they had essentially sacrificed every gameplay element in order to have pretty graphics.

  • WyvernWyvern Registered User regular
    edited November 2014
    You know

    I'm looking at this thread and trying to think of any examples but honestly, none are coming to mind

    There have been disappointments, to be sure. Whether some pretty bad missteps in long-running series (Assassin's Creed Revelations, Final Fantasy XIII) or disappointing changes in direction (Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Jak 2), I can't think of any titles that have been disastrous enough to just completely stop me in my tracks.

    Like, I'd really love to say Warrior Within for this, because The Sands of Time was one of my favorite games of the PS2 gen, hell it was practically a perfect game, and then for them to follow up with that absolute garbage was completely heartbreaking. But it never looked cool at any stage of its development - as soon as I saw the first screenshots, my immediate thoughts were "this looks horrid," and then the game came out, and it was. But at least the marketing was honest.
    I'm glad you mentioned Warrior Within! I considered it the most spectacular failure of a game I had encountered until Other M showed up (which has been examined thoroughly enough to not really require any discussion here). Like, it's not just bad. It took the exact opposite of every lesson it should have learned from the first game for absolutely no reason.

    Everybody agreed that the forced combat was the worst part of Sands of Time. But instead of dialing back on the combat like any sensible person would, they just made it marginally more complex, and then crammed as much of it as possible in every corner to justify the effort. So you can't jump off three walls before running into yet another enemy. And then I get lost in the meandering level design, and I have to backtrack, and everything respawned.

    And then there's the first post-tutorial boss! For the uninitiated, here is how that fight goes:

    She does a bunch of attacks on you. If you hold the block button, there is absolutely no chance of you taking a hit under any circumstances ever. Sometimes, she will do this one particular flourish with her sword. When she does, it means her combo is definitely over, and you are free to hit her with the weakest possible jab exactly three times. If you attack four times, you will be hit. If you do any other move, you will be hit.

    Sometimes she will end the combo early, on some other completely arbitrary swing. When she does, you can sneak in extra hits. Hypothetically. But by the time you realize that there was an opening, it's already almost over, so most of the time trying to capitalize on these results in getting hit. So you're forced to voluntarily pass up maybe four or five openings in a row before getting the one safe opening.

    And then after five straight minutes of this you yell THIS IS PRINCE OF PERSIA GODDAMMIT, I WANT TO JUMP OFF SOMETHING, and you try to do one of those fancy acrobatic combat moves they added, and it is unfailingly countered. Eventually, due to sheer boredom and a desperate desire to end the fight sooner, you get greedy enough times that you die, after like 10+ minutes of this shit. And then you have to start over again from the beginning.

    And then, after that has happened two or three times, you realize that you're getting absolutely nothing out of this experience and stop playing.

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  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    edited November 2014
    This is definitely becoming one of those "Hey, here's a game that I hated that everyone else liked" poll thread. :-P It started off so well, too, with Hellgate: London, which actually IS a game that failed that was hyped to all dicks.

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  • themightypuckthemightypuck MontanaRegistered User regular
    Agree on Hellgate. I liked it and thought it had potential but it pretty much crashed and burned.

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  • FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    edited November 2014
    I wouldn't say that THE BUREAU: X-Com Declassified failed, but given all of the material they had to work worth , it seriously underperformed. Knowing the long, expensive trail of developmental disfunction that led to the game's publication, however, we were lucky to receive what we did.

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  • FairchildFairchild Rabbit used short words that were easy to understand, like "Hello Pooh, how about Lunch ?" Registered User regular
    Also SHADOWS OF MYTH DRANNOR, which was not only a hopeless mess of a game, but also managed to corrupt my hard drive when I de-installed it.

  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Castlevania Lords of Shadow 2 broke my heart with all its bullshit.

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  • ShadowfireShadowfire Vermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered User regular
    Let's steer it back then...

    And talk about one of my favorite games of two generations ago, Advent Rising! Epic space opera trilogy with a story assist from Orson Scott Card, gameplay involving bullet time and special, jedi/wizard like powers? Dual wielding rocket launchers? There's no part of the game that should have been terrible.

    Except the gameplay was broken as fuck. I mean, I love it, but the Lift power was especially bad. Target a piece of rubble and throw it at a dude with your mind! Then that rubble shatters, and your lock-on reticle stays locked onto that spot. Frame rate and crash bugs, some control issues during jumping bits...

    I mean, if you avoid the Lift power it is mostly playable, and I love the rest of the game really. There really was nothing like it at the time... climb on a big dumb alien's back, snap his neck, and then ride the corpse to the ground in slow motion while headshotting his two buddies. But man, it was broken.

    They even had a million dollar prize thing in the game. It would update through Xbox Live with some goofy scavenger hunt stuff, and the players who did it the fastest would be entered to win at the end. Except sales of the game were so low they had to cancel, and instead participants received a couple of games. One was Psychonauts, so it wasn't all bad, but...

    And those low sales meant the other two chapters were never made. The game ends in a massive cliffhanger, with your character transported to some icy planet, met by an unknown alien species, and fades out on a "to be continued..." note. Ugh. UGH!

  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    You know... going back and watching the trailer for Hellgate? It's not that good. That's some trite shit right there.

    We always buy into the hype SO HARD.

    What is this I don't even.
  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    #1 offender

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  • CantidoCantido Registered User regular
    Shadowfire wrote: »
    Let's steer it back then...

    And talk about one of my favorite games of two generations ago, Advent Rising! Epic space opera trilogy with a story assist from Orson Scott Card, gameplay involving bullet time and special, jedi/wizard like powers? Dual wielding rocket launchers? There's no part of the game that should have been terrible.

    Except the gameplay was broken as fuck. I mean, I love it, but the Lift power was especially bad. Target a piece of rubble and throw it at a dude with your mind! Then that rubble shatters, and your lock-on reticle stays locked onto that spot. Frame rate and crash bugs, some control issues during jumping bits...

    I mean, if you avoid the Lift power it is mostly playable, and I love the rest of the game really. There really was nothing like it at the time... climb on a big dumb alien's back, snap his neck, and then ride the corpse to the ground in slow motion while headshotting his two buddies. But man, it was broken.

    They even had a million dollar prize thing in the game. It would update through Xbox Live with some goofy scavenger hunt stuff, and the players who did it the fastest would be entered to win at the end. Except sales of the game were so low they had to cancel, and instead participants received a couple of games. One was Psychonauts, so it wasn't all bad, but...

    And those low sales meant the other two chapters were never made. The game ends in a massive cliffhanger, with your character transported to some icy planet, met by an unknown alien species, and fades out on a "to be continued..." note. Ugh. UGH!

    They hyped up the story choices so much and it all boiled down to who died first and who died second. The character you rescue suddenly goes silent and I simply knew they would die a few minutes later. Optimization on Xbox wa absolute shit too. I didnt get more than two hours into it.

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  • chiasaur11chiasaur11 Never doubt a raccoon. Do you think it's trademarked?Registered User regular
    edited November 2014
    Rainfall wrote: »
    Deus Ex: Invisible War

    Only weeping remains.

    I came to it years late. Surely, it can't be that bad, I thought. It's a bad Deus Ex game, but it probably won't be a bad game. And Tom Francis liked it! Kieron Gillen liked it! They have excellent taste and talent. I'll enjoy my time with it, surely!

    Ha.

    Ha.

    Ha.
    Fairchild wrote: »
    I wouldn't say that THE BUREAU: X-Com Declassified failed, but given all of the material they had to work worth , it seriously underperformed. Knowing the long, expensive trail of developmental disfunction that led to the game's publication, however, we were lucky to receive what we did.

    It's a 6/10 with a really good aesthetic, tolerable combat, and some serious flaws. If Enemy Unknown hadn't come out, I think it'd be much more hated. As is, it can take its place as this weird side thing for the franchise, a game that draws "Sure. 'salright." when people ask if they should buy it on sale. Which, considering the dev process, is more success than you'd expect.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    There are a few games that come to mind, but I feel like folks sorta figured out the game was going to fail their expectations before it's release.
    I'm looking at you, New SimCity.

    I think FF13 was hyped as Square's next big deal, with a world and characters akin to FF8, and the expectation from the games we've seen in FF6-12,
    and it failed those expectations hard. We did get a fantastic combat system though.

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  • Virgil_Leads_YouVirgil_Leads_You Proud Father House GardenerRegistered User regular
    FF14, should have been amazing but failed instead.
    I'm pretty happy with FF14 Realm Reborn though.

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