I still like Sera. And the title of the thread kinda makes me go ehhhhhhh nah, you know? But on the other hand, a lot of companions I feel indifferent towards are loved by people, so I guess I can't judge.
I really don't care if people like/dislike certain characters
I think there were some sort of wildly disproportionate comparisons made of Sera, like calling her Trevor from GTA 5 or whatever
That sort of exaggeration rubs me the wrong way
but if you don't like her you don't like her and that's fine
I don't like Vivienne and I think a bunch of people like her
I still like Sera. And the title of the thread kinda makes me go ehhhhhhh nah, you know? But on the other hand, a lot of companions I feel indifferent towards are loved by people, so I guess I can't judge.
I really don't care if people like/dislike certain characters
I think there were some sort of wildly disproportionate comparisons made of Sera, like calling her Trevor from GTA 5 or whatever
That sort of exaggeration rubs me the wrong way
but if you don't like her you don't like her and that's fine
I don't like Vivienne and I think a bunch of people like her
I don't think many people like Vivienne at all either.
Peace to fashion police, I wear my heart
On my sleeve, let the runway start
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
Peace to fashion police, I wear my heart
On my sleeve, let the runway start
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Shortytouching the meatIntergalactic Cool CourtRegistered Userregular
I still like sera overall
I just really hate how she is about religion
we've all had a friend who gets really annoying about one thing or another
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
Actually I'm curious about something with Viv, though I haven't tried it yet.
Viv personal quest spoilers
So there's an option to give her a regular wyvern heart instead of the snowy wyvern heart. I haven't done it because it seems kind of evil, if I'm going to refuse her request I'll just do it openly, not give her the wrong thing.
But in thinking about it and looking at her card change if you do that, I realized that she's probably knowledgable enough to know what kind of heart you're giving her but that she might use it anyway as an excuse to get rid of Bastian and raise her own power. Has anyone tried it, and if so what are the repercussions?
Peace to fashion police, I wear my heart
On my sleeve, let the runway start
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
Brovid Hasselsmof[Growling historic on the fury road]Registered Userregular
I got no real beef with Sera. Her speech is kind of weird, like a posh person pretending to be not posh, but she makes me laugh as much as any of the others. And her motivation for being with the inquisition ("I want the world to go back to normal so I can continue being a petty criminal and screwing over the nobility") is different, and a bit more interesting than most other people's "I just want to do good" kind of attitude.
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CambiataCommander ShepardThe likes of which even GAWD has never seenRegistered Userregular
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
Peace to fashion police, I wear my heart
On my sleeve, let the runway start
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
You can ask a couple of questions
you can ask the ones that are just information about what happened here
just stay away from the ones that are like, hey if we make a deal what do you want out of it
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
I mean that guy
killed his servants and literally didn't give a shit
What did you think she was going to do
Everyone in your party has triggers and hatreds and shit that sets them off
I just don't understand why this specifically sets people off quite so much
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
I mean that guy
killed his servants and literally didn't give a shit
What did you think she was going to do
Everyone in your party has triggers and hatreds and shit that sets them off
I just don't understand why this specifically sets people off quite so much
is it just because she acts without your say-so?
In DA2 all the companions did that on occasion
You do remember how everyone feels about Anders right
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
You can ask a couple of questions
you can ask the ones that are just information about what happened here
just stay away from the ones that are like, hey if we make a deal what do you want out of it
Yeah like
guess what
the person who doesn't want normal people to get stepped on by nobles gets pissed if you disregard his murder of his servants and make a deal!
Like if you just hate that about her character I guess?
But its confusing why thats a sticking point when other characters have similar blind spots and some are far more violent/loose cannon-ey
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
She did that more because she thought You were trying to make a deal with the son of a bitch
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
that's...not really an accurate summary of events
You do a Red Jenny operation to disrupt a standoff between two noble houses who are competing for land. This dispute hits the common people hardest, because they're the ones who are getting killed or forced out of their homes. Something that Sera, as a member of the Friends of Red Jenny, is all about standing against.
So you do a War Table mission, the nobles stand down, and Sera tells you there's a reward from the Friend who requested the operation.
You go to the drop point and are greeted by a servant, who nervously tells you a noble made him do it. He runs away and is immediately felled by arrows. The noble reveals himself but notices you're the Inquisitor and immediately begins trying to ingratiate himself with you.
Sera, meanwhile, is pissed that the noble set her up, potentially set up the land dispute to lure her out, and personally murdered her friend, the servant. If you don't handle the conversation correctly (asking too many questions) or just step out of the way, she attacks the noble and kills him.
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
I mean that guy
killed his servants and literally didn't give a shit
What did you think she was going to do
Everyone in your party has triggers and hatreds and shit that sets them off
I just don't understand why this specifically sets people off quite so much
is it just because she acts without your say-so?
In DA2 all the companions did that on occasion
You do remember how everyone feels about Anders right
anders starts a war between two factions and murders a bunch of innocent people
sera
kills some asshole who callously murdered his servants, and she ONLY does that if you start to let him get away with it
I still like Sera. And the title of the thread kinda makes me go ehhhhhhh nah, you know? But on the other hand, a lot of companions I feel indifferent towards are loved by people, so I guess I can't judge.
Can you do me a favor and rank the party members for this game
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
that's...not really an accurate summary of events
You do a Red Jenny operation to disrupt a standoff between two noble houses who are competing for land. This dispute hits the common people hardest, because they're the ones who are getting killed or forced out of their homes. Something that Sera, as a member of the Friends of Red Jenny, is all about standing against.
So you do a War Table mission, the nobles stand down, and Sera tells you there's a reward from the Friend who requested the operation.
You go to the drop point and are greeted by a servant, who nervously tells you a noble made him do it. He runs away and is immediately felled by arrows. The noble reveals himself but notices you're the Inquisitor and immediately begins trying to ingratiate himself with you.
Sera, meanwhile, is pissed that the noble set her up, potentially set up the land dispute to lure her out, and personally murdered her friend, the servant. If you don't handle the conversation correctly (asking too many questions) or just step out of the way, she attacks the noble and kills him.
Oh ty for the correction I have been playing this game in the evenings when Im exhausted from work and I did it like two weeks ago so the details were muddy
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
stripped the noble of his title and put him to work and she laughed about it and that was that.
On my version, Sera
Got tired of me asking him questions, and killed him on her own, same violent result. Then I ripped her a new one back at Skyhold and told her if she ever pulled shit like that again, she's out.
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
yeah that's what happened in my first playthrough
I was questioning the guy to figure out his fucking deal because this entire scenario was fucked up as shit and partly Sera's fault and partly his fault and I wanted to know what was what so I could yell at the appropriate parties properly
and Sera basically re-enacted the elevator scene from Drive on this fucking guy and I was like jesus christ Sera
then back at Skyhold we argued about it and her response was basically "I'm going to keep doing shit like this because this is how I do things" and I was like "Not if you're part of my Inquisition you're fucking not" and she got shitty with me like it was my fault she got a bunch of innocent people killed with her stupid ideas and bootfucking a guy to death
so I kicked her the fuck out right then and there
second playthrough I refused to recruit her, when the mission came up that introduced her, I did it, I picked apart how she's basically a petty thug who enacts revenge fantasies with no regard for the repercussions and she smiled like "yeah, and?" and I'm like and that's a bad thing, Sera and she was like "pfft" so I told her to fuck off and she vanished from my game and I will never recruit Sera again because she's fucking awful
Sera is a shitty person. She just is. She's either badly written, as a character, or she's written deliberately as someone so aggressively unintelligent and truncated in her ability to comprehend the world that she can't grow as a person or understand complex things and she's basically some variety of mentally disabled.
I've seen some people, I don't know if Chincy is one of them but there have been some, try to defend Sera as being representative of a really basic commoner's point of view; that she's just really uneducated and uncultured and she's basically a street rat and doesn't have the patience or education or background to really think at the level some people are expecting of her and her behavior reflects her life
except that's 100% bullshit if you manage to eke out any of Sera's backstory; she was raised by a human noble with some degree of privilege. She rejects it all, of course, but that's also part of why she's totally shitty towards other elves, for example. She wasn't raised in an alienage and she didn't grow up on the streets starving. Sera grew up in privilege and has only as an adult adopted this whole street rat persona thing and kinda leans on "keepin' it real" to conceal the fact that she's kinda intellectually incapable of understanding the world around her.
it makes her an enormously unpleasant character to be around on like, several levels.
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
Sera Spoiler:
She has two character quests, the second one you play pranks but the first one she takes you out to check on a Red Jenny operation. During that one there's a noble who sabotaged the operation and he is like "yo Inquisitor stop tooling around with Red Jenny and our ~*noble houses*~ will make a glorious alliance"
and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
that's...not really an accurate summary of events
You do a Red Jenny operation to disrupt a standoff between two noble houses who are competing for land. This dispute hits the common people hardest, because they're the ones who are getting killed or forced out of their homes. Something that Sera, as a member of the Friends of Red Jenny, is all about standing against.
So you do a War Table mission, the nobles stand down, and Sera tells you there's a reward from the Friend who requested the operation.
You go to the drop point and are greeted by a servant, who nervously tells you a noble made him do it. He runs away and is immediately felled by arrows. The noble reveals himself but notices you're the Inquisitor and immediately begins trying to ingratiate himself with you.
Sera, meanwhile, is pissed that the noble set her up, potentially set up the land dispute to lure her out, and personally murdered her friend, the servant. If you don't handle the conversation correctly (asking too many questions) or just step out of the way, she attacks the noble and kills him.
Oh ty for the correction I have been playing this game in the evenings when Im exhausted from work and I did it like two weeks ago so the details were muddy
But yeah I distinctly remember giving her the go ahead, so that's something you can do, its not just a fail condition of the conversation
I'm not arguing that she isn't justified for hating the guy.
I'm arguing that she's a murderous psychopath.
"I hate that guy" and "I'm going to stab him so much he actually turns to liquid" are not the same thing?
Nah, she's not a psychopath. If you tell him to fuck off, she deals. If you use the Connections dialogue perk, she's cool.
Bull is much closer to being an actual psycho, he gets turned on by Cassandra bisecting folk and he "stumbled into" a similar fighting style to one based around drinking people's blood.
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I really don't care if people like/dislike certain characters
I think there were some sort of wildly disproportionate comparisons made of Sera, like calling her Trevor from GTA 5 or whatever
That sort of exaggeration rubs me the wrong way
but if you don't like her you don't like her and that's fine
I don't like Vivienne and I think a bunch of people like her
He's just also a murderous psychopath, which sera is not
I don't think many people like Vivienne at all either.
On my sleeve, let the runway start
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I think he did! Ok, so I can go there on the World Map and have a chat with him?
What Sera did you get? The one I got took great pleasure in stabbing a guy way past the point he was dead. She also screams "Eat it! Eat it!" after nearly every party kill. Seems pretty murderous psychopath to me.
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No, that place is not in either Ferelden or Orlais.
The one who specifically discusses with Bull that she doesn't like thinking about the pain or suffering she causes people in combat. She focuses on what she's doing but is uncomfortable with the actual damage she causes to people and doesn't relish it.
She calls Bull weird for enjoying hurting people.
And I've no idea where the bolded part was from, haven't seen anything like that.
I just really hate how she is about religion
we've all had a friend who gets really annoying about one thing or another
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But in thinking about it and looking at her card change if you do that, I realized that she's probably knowledgable enough to know what kind of heart you're giving her but that she might use it anyway as an excuse to get rid of Bastian and raise her own power. Has anyone tried it, and if so what are the repercussions?
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Dangit okay
That's fine this first playthrough is a test run so I can iron out things like this
Next time I'll keep that in mind
puts a big ol' damper on the character
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and you can give Sera the go ahead
and she kills him
not just a little but a lot
My Inquisitor's exact line was "Sera, stop, he's dead! At this point you're just making wine
I didn't get that at all, I
Yeah, that sucks
I still blame the writer for this not the character and like I said don't blame anyone for not being able to/wanting to get past that
I do think its weird people say sera is a psychopath when bull VERY PUBLICLY and SPECIFICALLY says he enjoys hurting people and causing pain
On my version, Sera
Best thing about Sera (and Viv for that matter) is being able to tell her that her shit opinons don't matter and that she can go fuck herself at any time.
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Yeah, Weisshaupt is kind of the ass end of Thedas
You can ask a couple of questions
just stay away from the ones that are like, hey if we make a deal what do you want out of it
I mean that guy
What did you think she was going to do
Everyone in your party has triggers and hatreds and shit that sets them off
I just don't understand why this specifically sets people off quite so much
is it just because she acts without your say-so?
In DA2 all the companions did that on occasion
You do remember how everyone feels about Anders right
doesn't sound like the kind of person she is supposed to sound like, I mean
That is a lot of why she annoys me, actually
I will say this, though, I think Iron Bull is well written but I don't like him at all
Yeah like
guess what
Like if you just hate that about her character I guess?
But its confusing why thats a sticking point when other characters have similar blind spots and some are far more violent/loose cannon-ey
that's...not really an accurate summary of events
So you do a War Table mission, the nobles stand down, and Sera tells you there's a reward from the Friend who requested the operation.
You go to the drop point and are greeted by a servant, who nervously tells you a noble made him do it. He runs away and is immediately felled by arrows. The noble reveals himself but notices you're the Inquisitor and immediately begins trying to ingratiate himself with you.
Sera, meanwhile, is pissed that the noble set her up, potentially set up the land dispute to lure her out, and personally murdered her friend, the servant. If you don't handle the conversation correctly (asking too many questions) or just step out of the way, she attacks the noble and kills him.
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anders starts a war between two factions and murders a bunch of innocent people
sera
the two aren't comparable
Can you do me a favor and rank the party members for this game
Include the war council in there if it please you
I'm arguing that she's a murderous psychopath.
"I hate that guy" and "I'm going to stab him so much he actually turns to liquid" are not the same thing?
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Better luck next time, Bioware.
Oh ty for the correction I have been playing this game in the evenings when Im exhausted from work and I did it like two weeks ago so the details were muddy
yeah that's what happened in my first playthrough
and Sera basically re-enacted the elevator scene from Drive on this fucking guy and I was like jesus christ Sera
then back at Skyhold we argued about it and her response was basically "I'm going to keep doing shit like this because this is how I do things" and I was like "Not if you're part of my Inquisition you're fucking not" and she got shitty with me like it was my fault she got a bunch of innocent people killed with her stupid ideas and bootfucking a guy to death
so I kicked her the fuck out right then and there
second playthrough I refused to recruit her, when the mission came up that introduced her, I did it, I picked apart how she's basically a petty thug who enacts revenge fantasies with no regard for the repercussions and she smiled like "yeah, and?" and I'm like and that's a bad thing, Sera and she was like "pfft" so I told her to fuck off and she vanished from my game and I will never recruit Sera again because she's fucking awful
Sera is a shitty person. She just is. She's either badly written, as a character, or she's written deliberately as someone so aggressively unintelligent and truncated in her ability to comprehend the world that she can't grow as a person or understand complex things and she's basically some variety of mentally disabled.
I've seen some people, I don't know if Chincy is one of them but there have been some, try to defend Sera as being representative of a really basic commoner's point of view; that she's just really uneducated and uncultured and she's basically a street rat and doesn't have the patience or education or background to really think at the level some people are expecting of her and her behavior reflects her life
except that's 100% bullshit if you manage to eke out any of Sera's backstory; she was raised by a human noble with some degree of privilege. She rejects it all, of course, but that's also part of why she's totally shitty towards other elves, for example. She wasn't raised in an alienage and she didn't grow up on the streets starving. Sera grew up in privilege and has only as an adult adopted this whole street rat persona thing and kinda leans on "keepin' it real" to conceal the fact that she's kinda intellectually incapable of understanding the world around her.
it makes her an enormously unpleasant character to be around on like, several levels.
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Psychopathy is the lack of empathy or caring about people other than yourself
She was in a blind rage, she is not a psychopath, at all.
Plus without Sera you don't get BEEEEES
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But its also pretty firmly in the realm of shit videogame characters do all the time and just about everyone in your party has done as bad or worse
And she's DEFINITELY not a psychopath, that's not what that word means
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But yeah I distinctly remember giving her the go ahead, so that's something you can do, its not just a fail condition of the conversation
Nah, she's not a psychopath. If you tell him to fuck off, she deals. If you use the Connections dialogue perk, she's cool.
Bull is much closer to being an actual psycho, he gets turned on by Cassandra bisecting folk and he "stumbled into" a similar fighting style to one based around drinking people's blood.