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[Rocksmith 2014] This DLC has me at an All Time Low *3 pack*

TommattTommatt Registered User regular
edited October 2015 in Games and Technology
CHECK OUT THE 2ND POST FOR A LOT OF GUITAR INFO FOR BEGINNERS AND IMMEDIATE PLAYERS ALIKE. YOU WILL GET WHAT YOU PUT INTO THIS GAME, JUST LIKE WITH ANY GUITAR LEARNING METHOD. IT'S BEST USED AS AN AUGMENT ALONG WITH OUTSIDE PRACTICE SESSIONS.


UBI soft answered my wish and made a sequl to Rocksmith! I loved the original, although it had many flaws, and hoped they'd make one with what they learned. They have, and the game is a huge step up over the original. While not perfect, it addresses every issue with the original, and is so good I find the flaws nitpicky. Bottom line is: If you have ever played guitar, or wanted to and will dedicate the time, then this game is for you.

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So what is rocksmith? Rocksmith is a rhythm game like rockband, but not really. It has a cable that allows you to plug in a guitar, any guitar (or bass) and play along to songs. There are various game elements, but its actually designed to teach you songs and the guitar. Songs will start very simple, and as you progress, you will unlock the whole song. It is flowing tab basically. It also has mini games, and lessons, designed to teach you various aspects of guitar. One nice thing about Rocksmith compared to Rockband 3 Pro mode, is any guitar works, and it actually listens to the sound. Which means you can use different fingerings on cords, or say play an open string or on the 5th fret on the string above it, as it is the same note. It's all personal preference. Another awesome feature is you can improvise when there's nothing on screen, and not lose points for it.

IMO it has far exceded expectations. Gamespot gives it an 8.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KNo1wNwj0w


Introducing rocksmith 2014
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZaXQLYS8kL4
Official Commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARNpfTdjbIg

Whats new
http://youtu.be/CrRTHQr9TFI
"rocksmith 2014 kicks the shit out of rocksmith"

Demo of session mode. This mode is so awesome and I've recommended this game to people on this alone. It's taught me how to play lead guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWRfbd2ebEs

Heres another video of session mode playing some blue grass. I can't say enough about how good it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPmofic_wFA

Video Tutorial of Session mode from one of the designers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mAehvLEzL0

Here's what all that stuff means in game
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Aerosmith – Walk This Way
Alice Cooper - No more mr Nice guy *
Alice in Chains – Stone
Arctic Monkeys – R U Mine?
Avenged Sevenfold – Bat Country
B'z - Ultra Soul
Bob Dylan – Knockin’ On Heaven’s Door
Boston - Peace of mind *
Bush - Machinehead *
Def Lepard - Pour some sugar on me
Deftones - My own summer
EarlyRise - Wasteland
Fang Island - Chompers *
Foo FIghters - Everlong *
Gold MOtel - Brand new Kind of blue *
Green Day - Kid X
Iron Maiden – The Trooper
Jack White – Sixteen Saltines
JAWS - Stay in *
Joe Sariani - Satch Boogie *
Kiss – Rock And Roll All Nite
La Sera – Love That’s Gone
Magic Wands - Black magic *
Mastodon – Blood and Thunder
Minus the bear - Cold COmpany *
Monster truck - Sweet MOuntain River *
Muse - Knights of Cydonia*
Oasis – Don’t Look Back In Anger
Pantera – Cemetery Gates
Paramore – Now
PAWS - Sore Tummy *
Queen - WE are the champions *
Ramones - Blitzkrieg Bop *
Ratt - Round and round
R.E.M. – Losing My Religion
Radiohead – Paranoid Android
Red Fang – Wires
Rise Against – Savior
Rush - Spirit of the radio
Screaming Females – Rotten Apple
Slayer – War Ensemble
Splashh – All I Wanna Do
Sytem of a Down - Hypnotize *
Tak Matsumoto - Go Further *
The Dear huner - Stuck on a Wire Out on a Fence *
The Kinks – You Really Got Me
The Police - Every Breath you Take *
The Rolling Stones – Paint It, Black
The Shins – For A Fool
The Smashing Pumpkins – Cherub Rock (pre-order bonus)
The Smashing Pumpkins – The Chimera
The Who – My Generation
Tom Petty- Mary Janes last dance
Weezer – Say It Ain’t So
White Zombie – Thunder Kiss ‘65

Video of iron maiden to see the interface
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nb2M4rcjEs

And say it aint so, something slower, shows how it shows what finger to use on the fretboard, and master mode kicking in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bJmMJng2Jw

And lets add something to give us nightmares
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY7MHSnxvEU


All existing DLC will work, and many songs from rocksmith 1 will import over for a licensing fee ala rock band

List of dlc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_downloadable_songs_for_Rocksmith

list of songs in rocksmith http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocksmith


Whats new from the first Rocksmith?
More than 85 lessons
"There's also a handy finger position guide on the interface now, which is one of the most helpful learning tools added to the 2014 edition. This is a huge improvement to the game as it teaches new users how to form chords in the most efficient way possible to easily move to other shapes."
Unlock full song from the start and various levels
Master mode (no chart ) fades in and out notes depending on how you're doing
Missions depending on what your weak on
New guitarcade modes (Guitarcade is a collection of mini games teaching you various things. Typing of the dead with chords, scales in a temple run type game, space invaders style fret familiarization)
Guitarcade video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qi2Tm5LU_fE

Session mode "One of the more interesting new features is session mode, where you can set a key, pick a scale and start jamming with a band that plays along to your rhythm. This is great for both the beginner who wants to learn scales in a more dynamic environment as well as for more experienced guitarists who want to try out new riffs with a full band."

One thing it fixes from the first game is that you can go in, set all the songs to 100%, except the solo's. Plus the learning /leveling up is better/quicker, as it appears to be. I think it looks pretty awesome as I loved the first one.

I'm sure many are wondering if you can use this to learn guitar. The simple answer is yes. You could and can learn from just this, and it should be a fun experience. But, like with any instrument, it's going to come down to the time and practice you put into it. If you're serious about learning, I'd highly recommend these games, along with a lesson or two at the least to learn proper form, youtube videos, and practicing in your spare time. I'm an intermediate player and I love this game. I picked up the first one as I was really learning all my scales, and it was amazing to be able to practice them so fluidly. Sight reading a song really depends on you having a understanding and muscle memory of where you're fingers should be.

Wait, check this out. Proof of somebody learning through rocksmith. You're not going to let a little girl do better than you are you? C'mon big man (or woman), learn to shred and take her candy!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M01R_XTue8
OUT NOW

So you got rocksmith on PC and want to play with the settings? Here's a guide by Banzai5150 from the forums
Banzai5150 wrote: »
Banzai5150 wrote: »
The first line you want to fiddle with is "LatencyBuffer=", I believe it defaults to 4, the fastest machines can run it on 1 supposedly, but I can only muster a 2. How to tell? Turn it down to 1, start up RS14, does it make bad noises then quit, change to 2, and retry till you hear it normally and clear.

Next "MaxOutputBufferSize=" is defaulted to 0, which really means 1024. Try cutting it in halves. 512, 256, 128, etc... when you're to low of a value the sound will distort and sound like crap. Basic methodology is start at 512, sound ok? Halve it, sound ok? keep halving till it sound bad, then go back up to last good number, and then halve that integral, etc. Or just go down to doing it by 2's.

Once that's all set, then you will need to play around with the in game Setting, and that's just a pain in the ass. I've left mine at 50.


Here's my current file:
[Audio]
EnableMicrophone=0
ExclusiveMode=1
LatencyBuffer=2
ForceDefaultPlaybackDevice=
ForceWDM=0
ForceDirectXSink=0
Win32UltraLowLatencyMode=1
DumpAudioLog=0
MaxOutputBufferSize=148
[Renderer.Win32]
ShowGamepadUI=0
ScreenWidth=1920
ScreenHeight=1080
Fullscreen=2
VisualQuality=2
RenderingWidth=0
RenderingHeight=0
EnablePostEffects=1
EnableShadows=1
EnableHighResScope=1
EnableDepthOfField=1
EnablePerPixelLighting=1
MsaaSamples=4
DisableBrowser=0
[Net]
UseProxy=1
Banzai5150 wrote: »
Banzai5150 wrote: »
The first line you want to fiddle with is "LatencyBuffer=", I believe it defaults to 4, the fastest machines can run it on 1 supposedly, but I can only muster a 2. How to tell? Turn it down to 1, start up RS14, does it make bad noises then quit, change to 2, and retry till you hear it normally and clear.

Next "MaxOutputBufferSize=" is defaulted to 0, which really means 1024. Try cutting it in halves. 512, 256, 128, etc... when you're to low of a value the sound will distort and sound like crap. Basic methodology is start at 512, sound ok? Halve it, sound ok? keep halving till it sound bad, then go back up to last good number, and then halve that integral, etc. Or just go down to doing it by 2's.

Once that's all set, then you will need to play around with the in game Setting, and that's just a pain in the ass. I've left mine at 50.


Here's my current file:
[Audio]
EnableMicrophone=0
ExclusiveMode=1
LatencyBuffer=2
ForceDefaultPlaybackDevice=
ForceWDM=0
ForceDirectXSink=0
Win32UltraLowLatencyMode=1
DumpAudioLog=0
MaxOutputBufferSize=148
[Renderer.Win32]
ShowGamepadUI=0
ScreenWidth=1920
ScreenHeight=1080
Fullscreen=2
VisualQuality=2
RenderingWidth=0
RenderingHeight=0
EnablePostEffects=1
EnableShadows=1
EnableHighResScope=1
EnableDepthOfField=1
EnablePerPixelLighting=1
MsaaSamples=4
DisableBrowser=0
[Net]
UseProxy=1


Weekly Rocksmith challenge. currently not going Every week we pick a song, and all try to learn it and post our scores! There are different brackets and people playing at all difficulties so don't be shy, jump right in! Banzai5150 is organizing it, so @ him to be added, or just post in the thread!
Here is where we post our scores. Usual PA PW
http://newtzgames.com/rocksmith/login

Also add what DLC you own to this fine document here and we can start adding that to available songs to choose from if we all have it
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auljgz0LOPw9dDN0NmtPa0I0RHhfRG1wcWg1RmQzSHc&usp=sharing
Message @banzai5150 to get access to edit it.

Results -
Week 1 Winners - Song Choice Blitzkrieg Bop - The Ramones

Week 2 Winners - Song choice Hypnotize - System of a Down
datac0re 1,214,923 98.46% 212 Gold 0 Strikes
Hard
Endaro 1,022,127 98.32% 281 Platinum 0 Strikes
Medium
mcdermott 364,215 98.90% 102 Platinum 0 Strikes
Easy
webguy20 80,622 100.00% 68 Platinum 0 Strikes

Week 3 Winners - Song - Wire - Red Fang
Master
none
Hard
Dissociater 1,429,583 98.61% 223 Platinum
Medium
Darkewolfe 724,297 97.61% 370 Platinum
Easy
None

Week 4 Winners - Song - My Generation (Rhythm) - The Who
Master
Endaro 786,336 97.71% 108 Platinum 0
Hard
Dark Raven X 430,865 96.56% 265 Gold 0
Medium
None
Easy
Anti-Sean 89,425 97.16% 65 Platinum

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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    edited May 2015
    Ok you got this game to learn, or improve at guitar. So here's some useful links and info.


    Just added Guitar Buyers guide 11/24 One of the best guide's I've seen for beginners on how to purchase a guitar
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvrVLVT8nBQ

    First things first. This is the pentatonic scale
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    If you learn nothing else, learn this first form of it. Use it to warm up. This pattern will be used a lot in music.
    Here's a good video of it by marty (who has a great channel for learning songs on youtube)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lf_2eodyR_0
    And here is a resource with all 5 patterns in tab form
    http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/lessons/scales/major_and_minor_pentatonic_scales.html
    And another resource on it
    http://www.theorylessons.com/pent002positions.php
    Edit Actually this whole lesson is worth reading I think.
    http://www.theorylessons.com/pentatonic_scales.php
    added 11/24
    I think this may be the simplest and easiest to understand video I've seen on the different modes, and how they work, and basically how simple they truly are


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKbPIGnqt80
    And part 2
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uhN5h1o7ww

    And a little bit more. Lets touch on the major scale and modes. In session mode, you'll notic you have the major and minor pentatonic, and then 7 of them with funny names. This is the major scale, and each mode that it contains. There are 7, so you can learn the fancy names or the positions and 1-7. 1 is the major scale, 6 is the minor scale.

    Here is a resource on the major scale
    http://endofthegame.net/2012/03/17/majorscale/

    Here are my thoughts I gave in reply to a poster if it helps
    The major scale has 7 notes, pentatonic removes 2 of these to cut it down to 5.

    guitar-maps-c-major_000.jpg
    guitar-fretboard.jpg
    2-2-1.jpg
    CAGED-Scales-C-Major2.jpg
    Not sure which of these images will help you visualize it better
    Right here is the whole C major scale. Look at the 5th fret, you can see the minor pentatonic shape. Look at fret 8. Do you see the major pentatonic shape? So the minor shape comes before the major. So if you wanted to play in A major, you played the pentatonic shape on the 2nd fret (It'd be Gb minor) Once you learn the shapes, it's just applying them to the positions. If you know all 5 of the pentatonic, you're not far from the full scale, and you'll be able to tell by ear by what sounds good and what doesn't sound good as well.

    One other things about scales, so you have your first position, C major, it's on 8 of the E string. Now, you know to turn it into C minor. Simply play the minor scale. Which is the 6th position of the major Scale. It is also known as the 6 mode, or the Aeolian mode. This may sound confusing. But what this means is, all those fancy names and complicated looking scales? They are just the major scale, with a different position of the scale, or mode, being played on the root. Again, look at the major and minor. The major is the first mode. Minor is the 6th. (theres 7 in the full major scale, 5 shapes in the pentatonic)

    Now lets look at the 2nd position.
    * EDIT WRONG PICTURE. I SUCK Maybe this will explain it all better http://endofthegame.net/2011/07/28/modesmajorscale/ *edit

    That's the shape you'd play at the 10th fret in the major scale. Now, if you were to play that shape starting at 8, the root (C), and made that your first position, you'd now be playing in C major 2nd mode, or C Major Dorian mode. (I might have the terms slightly wrong) but it'd be the dorian mode of C major. It's just moving that shape, it's all it is. Once youlearn it up and down the neck, it's just a matter of positioning it where you want it.

    Hopefully I didn't et any of the pictures mixed up, and this helped.

    Edit ok the pictures are all messed up. That's not c major in there at the end. Grrr I had them all I thought.


    Added 5/16/2015
    Just came across this great image and a nice simple explanation on modes
    a5cf6-modes.png
    Modes are really quite simple but can also be confusing. In simple terms its like this. In music there are 7 alphabetic letters. A to G. In the key of C the notes are C, D, E, F, G, A & B. The C major scale consists of these 7 notes. A mode is simply the starting point. If you play from C to C (in the key of C) its considered to be the first mode known as Ionian. There are 7 modes because there are 7 different notes or starting points. Here are the names of the 7 modes along with examples that would match with the key of C.

    1. Ionian C – C2. Dorian D – D3. Phrygian E – E4. Lydian F – F5. Mixolydian G – G6. Aeolian A – A7. Locrian B – B

    Let’s look at an example. The 6th mode Aeolian is also commonly known as the natural minor scale. The notes are A, B, C, D, E, F, G, A. Try playing on guitar and listen to how it sounds.

    http://howilearntguitar.com/2014/03/02/what-are-modes-on-guitar/
    And here is another site that probably explains it well
    http://endofthegame.net/2011/07/28/modesmajorscale/

    And here's an explanation by our very own @Roz that I think does a great job of explaining it as well. You ever know what keyword or phrase is going to help you understand it
    In music (and I must stress Western music theory), a single octave contains 12 distinct notes. Starting with the letter A, the notes looks like this:

    A
    A#/Bb (this is the exact same note, but is referred to differently depending on the situation)
    B
    C
    C#/Db
    D
    D#/Eb
    E
    F
    F#/Gb
    G
    G#/Ab
    A

    As you can see, once you finish the Octave it loops back around and starts over again. This series of notes is called the "Chromatic Scale". This particular version of the chromatic scale is achieved on a guitar (in standard E tuning), by starting with the 5 string open (open A), and playing each note from the first fret, to the 12th fret. However, you can pick any string and play the notes sequentially along that string and you are playing a version of the Chromatic Scale.

    Each of the frets on your guitar corresponds to a new note, often referred to as "1/2 steps". Each fret going down the neck is a half of a step above the previous fret. Thus going from A to A#/Bb is going up a half step. Going up a whole step is double the distance, or going from A to B (Open A on 5th string to 2nd Fret 5th string).

    Thus we can say that the Chromatic Scale is composed of 12 half steps, and if you prefer you can even call it the master scale as it is composed of all possible notes.

    All of this is critical to understanding the next portion: non-chromatic scales. Non-Chromatic Scales (and there are many types and kinds) are nothing more than a sequence of notes that follow a pattern. The default pattern for Major Scales is the following form:

    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Half Step
    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Whole Step
    Half Step

    This is sometimes written as w, w, 1/2, w, w, w, 1/2. for simplicity.

    Lets apply this to the simplest major scale - C. So starting with C we have:

    C
    D (1 whole step above C)
    E (1 whole step above D)
    F (1/2 step above D)
    G (1 whole step above F)
    A (1 whole step above G)
    B (1 whole step above A)
    C (1/2 step above B)

    You can see how we'e constructed a loop from C to C avoiding every sharp and flat in the Chromatic Scale. C Major is unique, in that it is the only major scale which has no sharps or flats (there are other types of scales with no sharps or flats).

    Note that for our example, we choose C as our "root". However, we could have chosen any of the notes in the chromatic scale as our root, performed the same process (w,w,1/2,w,w,w,1/2) and achieved a new major scale.

    Learning guitar

    This site seems really good, and has a lot of videos. It seems they have stuff for sale, but all the videos are free.
    http://www.guitarlessons.com/guitar-lessons/

    Gibson has a pretty useful site with some great video lessons
    http://www2.gibson.com/Lessons.aspx

    about.com actually has a bunch of lessons, here is the begginers page
    http://guitar.about.com/library/blguitarlessonarchive.htm

    This youtube channel has some good videos


    So you just got your first guitar, or a new guitar, and you have the beginners worst enemy. The TREMOLO Bridge! These can be awesome, but also suck for beginners. Here's an entertaining fellow who will tell you how to turn it into a normal locked bridge, and be able to reverse it.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=xkj8p4Z3Rjg

    Over all learning and learning songs Marty is the man! He has great lessons and lessons on learning songs for all levels. From basic strumming stuff to solo's.
    http://www.youtube.com/user/martyzsongs
    Alt picking. Learn it, Love it, Live it.
    There are many types of picking. Some more complicated types are sweep and economy, and are good to learn. But you must learn alt picking. Just like you have to learn to use your pinky, and other fingers besides your index, you cannot pick all downstrums. You'll want to when you start, and hell, James in Metalica played the whole rhythm part of Master of Puppets (and pretty much everything else) with just down strokes, but you need to learn to alt strum to get speed and endurance. Here's a great video on some concepts.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpJNUGHxC3M

    Just learning to play lead? Venturing into session mode but not sure what to do? Just working on bends? Here's a video with some basic licks in the pentatonic scale. Around 1:55 in there's a nice tip on keeping unwanted strings from ringing out while bending. And at 7 minutes there's a nice little lick that is great to warm up with, and it sounds cool
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_X15HoXoc

    Here's another one that does a really good job of showing how this simple little box can be used to create so many different cool sounds. Depending on where you're at, he may lost you at some point, but again, all he's playing is the pentatonic scale showed up top, and it's the shapes you'll see in most solo's in this game.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yEWbJYDJetY

    And one more. Some very basic concepts, then accelerated to sound harder than they are.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zUCe-BcbA00


    If you're diving into scales and or chord theory, this explains chord theory pretty well and seems easy to understand. I think it'll help with the understanding of scales to, as how their formed, and their different modes play with each other. Check it out
    http://www.museweb.com/ag/chord_form.html

    I'll add more stuff to this, but this should be some decent resources to get people started, back into it, and/or the right direction.


    3 useful videos on learning the notes all up and down the fretboard.
    This video contains a nifty little trick to quickly identify any note on the fly, by knowing the notes on just the 6th, and 5th string (for the most part) L Shape trick
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVACypyxTxM

    This one combines the scales you know/are learning/should be learning and a basic amount of theory (Mentions 3rds, 4ths, stuff like that, ) and goes about how to learn all the notes on the guitar. So far I'm thinking this is really good. Although my ears are ringing and it's making it hard to actually digest.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkIYLFNBNAc


    And, if you're more of a learn by doing drills and such, here is a video with 3 drills that if you did every day, you would memorize it pretty quickly. It wouldn't be fun or pretty though

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8yaHkvSmq0

    And a video of Joe Walsh talking about setting up a guitar, in which you learn nothing, but it's just awesome to watch
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKTXTWbI4FU

    And brain worms, just because

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1mG0feiEc0

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  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    Hooray! New thread!

  • ConstrictorConstrictor The Dork Knight SuburbialandRegistered User regular
    So I picked up a guitar and this game over the holiday and I love it so far. Should have started learning guitar years ago. My question is sometimes the game is not picking up what I'm doing when I'm definitely doing it right. For example on the mini game where you play chords to fight the zombies there's many times where I am 100% sure I'm hitting it perfectly and it just plain doesn't register.

    I'm not sure if it's because I'm using an acoustic-electric and some of the chords just don't register well on that type of guitar.

    In addition, I can't seem to complete some of the lessons because the guitar just doesn't do what it's supposed to do. In the note bending lesson when it asks me to bend the second time, no matter how hard I push the strings it won't register. I could barely get the single one to register and the double just isn't going.

    I've also noticed it on some songs. I'll hit the chord perfectly and it reads as a miss. Any tips on how to deal with this? Am I SOL without buying an electric guitar to go with my acoustic?

  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    So I picked up a guitar and this game over the holiday and I love it so far. Should have started learning guitar years ago. My question is sometimes the game is not picking up what I'm doing when I'm definitely doing it right. For example on the mini game where you play chords to fight the zombies there's many times where I am 100% sure I'm hitting it perfectly and it just plain doesn't register.

    I'm not sure if it's because I'm using an acoustic-electric and some of the chords just don't register well on that type of guitar.

    In addition, I can't seem to complete some of the lessons because the guitar just doesn't do what it's supposed to do. In the note bending lesson when it asks me to bend the second time, no matter how hard I push the strings it won't register. I could barely get the single one to register and the double just isn't going.

    I've also noticed it on some songs. I'll hit the chord perfectly and it reads as a miss. Any tips on how to deal with this? Am I SOL without buying an electric guitar to go with my acoustic?

    You say you have an Electric/Acoustic. What are you pickups like? Do you have more than one pickup? The problem many have with RS is that the pups aren't picking up well enough for the game to recognize. Many people, myself included, found that the bridge pup(on a multi pup guitar) works the best. The bending lesson is Hell. Welcome to Hell. It took me over 6 months of playing to pass that fucking lesson. @Tommatt‌ has a better grasp on bending in game than most and I'm sure he can give you some tips. The best tip is to work on the mini game with Bends, forget the name, hate that mini game!

    Lastly, I've found for me that when I turn up the In Game "Gain" in the settings, the game doesn't miss notes/chords as much for me. This does take a bit of tweaking as too much Gain will introduce noise.

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  • ConstrictorConstrictor The Dork Knight SuburbialandRegistered User regular
    Yes when I max the gain there's ugly static noise so I reduced it a bit. I guess I need to find the sweet spot.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    I have an acoustic electric myself, but I've never tried it with the game. I'll give it a try when I get a chance see if I know anything odd, and try to go through the exact lesson you're trying. Some questions.

    What kind of guitar is it? Where did you purchase it at? Has it ever been looked at by a technician? Does it have volume and tone settings, or any switches on it that you can play with? Like mine has a button called "phase" not sure what it does, and not sure if rocksmith would like it with that mode on. I also have an EQ equiliazer, any knobs you have, try setting them to the middle if you have them, and play with any buttons to see if that fixes it.

    Also, what are you using to tune it? Does it stay in tune? Hit a string open, now fret it at the 12th fret, are they both in tune? An intonation problem can cause problems with this game.

    Also, you mention that you just started picking up the guitar, so are you sure you always hitting it when you think you are? It's easy to not have enough pressure, have to much pressure, be over the fretline, mute a string accidently, or have a string ring out that should be muted when you're first starting. The weird thing is usually the game is pretty forgiving and will generate a hit rather than a miss. I've had times where I swear it's not recognizing power chords though. I've gotten misses in Blitzkrieg Bop and I just say screw you game, I'm right you're wrong....

    I'll have to look at the bend lesson, and wonder if it has to do with your guitar. I do know on an acoustic that it's a lot harder to bend, and that as a beginner a full step bend is really hard. For bends in general I would recommend playing temple of the bends, it is a great mini game and builds up finger strength pretty damn good I feel. Besides that, in the lesson, try sliding just to cheese it and see if it recognizes it then. Also, that may help you hear the not you're reaching for, and figure out what you're doing wrong.

  • ConstrictorConstrictor The Dork Knight SuburbialandRegistered User regular
    edited January 2015
    It's a Yamaha, ran me $300.00 so it's not a super cheap guitar. It's got all the dials and stuff on it. I don't know what everything does exactly yet but I think I'm doing it right. I'll add more detail when I get home and can take some pictures and get the exact specs.

    edit: it's a FGX700SC

    And yes, it's specifically the power chords that are frequently not registering. I know I'm hitting them perfectly, I'm staring right at my fingers when I'm doing it and nothing happens.

    I don't have this problem at all on the more acousticy/chord based songs - it registers when I expect it to and if I get a miss it's my fault.

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  • InstantPigInstantPig Damn Registered User regular
    If it sounds right, I wouldn't sweat it too much. I have weird issues with my acoustic/electric too and it cost substantially more than my electric which doesn't have the same issues. Sometimes I can totally blow a chord and it will register as correct and other times I know I nail it and it counts as a miss. This can also happen on electric, but it isn't as bad. I found that listening to the acoustic guitar and the RS's processed signal was throwing me off in a way that electric doesn't and I just wound up unplugging it after tuning. The game will say you performed badly, but it's not the boss of you, so meh.

    I think RS just has more trouble with acoustic pickups in some cases.

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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    It's a Yamaha, ran me $300.00 so it's not a super cheap guitar. It's got all the dials and stuff on it. I don't know what everything does exactly yet but I think I'm doing it right. I'll add more detail when I get home and can take some pictures and get the exact specs.

    edit: it's a FGX700SC

    And yes, it's specifically the power chords that are frequently not registering. I know I'm hitting them perfectly, I'm staring right at my fingers when I'm doing it and nothing happens.

    I don't have this problem at all on the more acousticy/chord based songs - it registers when I expect it to and if I get a miss it's my fault.

    Ok for the bending, are you talking about the full step bend in the 12th fret if the orange string? If so, I'm having a little trouble with it myself in my acoustic. That's a pretty tough bend on an acoustic depending on your strings. I bent the string damn near under the A and it's still not High enough. I did a slide and faked it though heh.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Just played a little of the chord zombie things, and I'm not sure if it's power chords (which I've had trouble with the last) or the way the game is looking for your input, but I had some trouble myself. Those damn bats. It may be about timing and making sure there's no stray notes before you play the next chord. Complete silence before it tells you to hit the next chord so that you're not just mashing on the E. They did put in "cheese" protection due to leader boards I'd think.

    But the culprit could be the acoustic electric but the nice thing you can hear what you're llaying, so regardless of what the game says, you are hearing how it's sounding on your guitar

  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    Coming Tomorrow:

    Soundgarden Song Pack – $11.99

    Soundgarden “Black Hole Sun” – Drop D: A455
    Soundgarden “Fell On Black Days”
    Soundgarden “Jesus Christ Pose” – Drop D
    Soundgarden “Pretty Noose” – Custom Tuning (CGCGGE)
    Soundgarden “Spoonman” – Drop D

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    Banzai5150 wrote: »
    Coming Tomorrow:

    Soundgarden Song Pack – $11.99

    Soundgarden “Black Hole Sun” – Drop D: A455
    Soundgarden “Fell On Black Days”
    Soundgarden “Jesus Christ Pose” – Drop D
    Soundgarden “Pretty Noose” – Custom Tuning (CGCGGE)
    Soundgarden “Spoonman” – Drop D

    Color me hard!

    \m/

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Ooo spoonman time to break out the bass

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Ah dicks. My guitar is dying. D:

    It's a cheap but excellent imitation Explorer from some manufacturer called Westfield. It's about 8 years old now, and for a budget piece of junk it's had quite a life. I got a killswitch installed at one point, but broke it almost immediately. I've never had much trouble with it, as it stays in 'on' position, and I'd occasionally have to jiggle it to stop my signal cutting out.

    Now tho, after getting back from holiday, my bridge pickup has no signal at all. Not even fading or cutting, just fuckin' dead. I gotta put it in neck to play, and ehhhh, neck on this thing has always been the weaker signal. Like it sounds nice clean, but pfff, got no power to it. I am super bummed. Gonna see if it's a cheap fix, hopefully some wiring related to the killswitch has been messed up. If the pickup itself has somehow died then I dunno if I have the budget to replace it.

    Oh brilliant
  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
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    Downloadable PDF
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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Four out of the five artists are making their debuts in Rocksmith this week, but none of them are strangers to music games. All five of these songs have appeared in rhythm games in the past, but only one of them has been playable on a real guitar before! Also, this marks the first time for three of these songs that the original version is showing up in a guitar game!

    Classic Riff Singles (No Pack / $2.99 each)

    Dio – “Rainbow in the Dark” – [XBL] / Steam
    Motörhead – “Ace of Spades” – Eb Standard – [XBL] / Steam
    Rick Derringer – “Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo” – E Standard: A446 – [XBL] / Steam
    Styx – “Renegade” – [XBL] / Steam
    Warrant – “Cherry Pie” – [XBL] / Steam

  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    I need at least three of those. Maybe four. But I'll probably go ahead and buy all five.

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    Wow that's a good set of songs.

    Dis fuckin' streak, man.

    Oh brilliant
  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    It's funny -- Renegade and Rainbow in the Dark came out only five years apart, yet they seem to be from entirely different geological eras, musically speaking.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Some good DLC. I want it all, but the nature of the game has really hurt Ubisoft with DLC sales from me. In rockband I'd buy pretty much anything on a whim just to play it once or twice. In Rocksmith, I rarely just go through the songs playing them. I typically will focus on a song, learning it and it's parts. I haven't even played every song that comes with the game. So while I want to impulse buy all of them, I don't see myself sitting down and learning them anytime soon. Although, if I would have bought some of the DLC, it's very possible I would have sat down and learned them.

  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    I have a quick couple of questions regarding proper technique.

    I see palm mutes discussed across the Youtubes pretty vehemently. The game is pretty simple in teaching you palm mute method. Place palm on strings for chunky sound. In practice I have noticed that if I have my palm in a mute position but only allow the strings to hit my palm when struck seem to give a different sound as if I were to rest my palm. These are just different forms to be used for different applications I would imagine right? Also what is good practice for single note mutes on strings that you see for single note+ fills in between power chords in some of more metal of songs? I have been trying to do normal mutes on strings and lift, which would work just have to get used to it to speed it up, but this is currently slow and doesnt seem to work well for songs like Symphony of Destruction. Is there a technique to this?

    Is it just good form for me to always use fingers 3 and 4 for power chords? There are songs where I do as some chord switching requires it but for power chord heavy bands like Offspring or Sum 41 it just tends to tire my wrists and hands out quicker.

    I have been using various songs to practice simple chord switching. Radiohead, Bob Marley, Beatles. I have been using bands like Trivium, Volbeat, Godsmack and Megadeth to practice the palm single note to power chord. Is there any other songs you guys would recommend that would help?

    Thanks guys. I have been having so much fun learning to play songs. I have been working on soloing lately. And it is still fast for me but Riff Repeat!



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  • InstantPigInstantPig Damn Registered User regular
    Use your 1st and 3rd finger for general power chord work. Sometimes it's advantageous to use your middle and pinkie if it helps in transitions or whatnot, but otherwise 1st and 3rd.

    Also where are you resting your hand when you mute? Try right near the bridge if you aren't already. For those single note mutes followed by power chords just angle your wrist away from the guitar a little to hit the unmuted pc. Just enough to let the strings ring out. Practice slow and somewhat exaggerated at first then work on making it as efficient as possible. No unnecessary movement. Speed will come.

    I'd recommend unplugging and just working on the motion while comfortable and watching tv or something.

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  • Jubal77Jubal77 Registered User regular
    InstantPig wrote: »
    Use your 1st and 3rd finger for general power chord work. Sometimes it's advantageous to use your middle and pinkie if it helps in transitions or whatnot, but otherwise 1st and 3rd.

    Also where are you resting your hand when you mute? Try right near the bridge if you aren't already. For those single note mutes followed by power chords just angle your wrist away from the guitar a little to hit the unmuted pc. Just enough to let the strings ring out. Practice slow and somewhat exaggerated at first then work on making it as efficient as possible. No unnecessary movement. Speed will come.

    I'd recommend unplugging and just working on the motion while comfortable and watching tv or something.

    I have my palm resting very near the intonation adjusters on my Epiphone SG 310 as that seemed to give the best sound. Thank you for the reply.

  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Jubal77 wrote: »
    I have a quick couple of questions regarding proper technique.

    I see palm mutes discussed across the Youtubes pretty vehemently. The game is pretty simple in teaching you palm mute method. Place palm on strings for chunky sound. In practice I have noticed that if I have my palm in a mute position but only allow the strings to hit my palm when struck seem to give a different sound as if I were to rest my palm. These are just different forms to be used for different applications I would imagine right? Also what is good practice for single note mutes on strings that you see for single note+ fills in between power chords in some of more metal of songs? I have been trying to do normal mutes on strings and lift, which would work just have to get used to it to speed it up, but this is currently slow and doesnt seem to work well for songs like Symphony of Destruction. Is there a technique to this?

    Is it just good form for me to always use fingers 3 and 4 for power chords? There are songs where I do as some chord switching requires it but for power chord heavy bands like Offspring or Sum 41 it just tends to tire my wrists and hands out quicker.

    I have been using various songs to practice simple chord switching. Radiohead, Bob Marley, Beatles. I have been using bands like Trivium, Volbeat, Godsmack and Megadeth to practice the palm single note to power chord. Is there any other songs you guys would recommend that would help?

    Thanks guys. I have been having so much fun learning to play songs. I have been working on soloing lately. And it is still fast for me but Riff Repeat!



    Learn both ways. Sometimes it makes sense to Barre the power chord, others you're going to want to use your ring and pinky. Depends a lot on what you're playing, and the changes you'll be going through. Barre chords in general will help you get used to using your ring and pinky though.

    Also, with palm muting, make sure you practice at strumming as well while palm muted. I've been relearning that due to cheating with all down strums as a kid.

  • Dark Raven XDark Raven X Laugh hard, run fast, be kindRegistered User regular
    One thing Rocksmith turned me around on is hitting multiple strings while muting. I was taught (by my metal lovin' friend) that you only ever wanna hit the lowest note in a power chord while chugging. So say an Avenged Sevenfold song, you hit the DAD for a powerchord, but then strictly just the D while muting between chords. I did it that way for years, until Rocksmith made me realize there are times when hitting more strings sounds good!

    Oh brilliant
  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    oh god damn it! I accidentally deleted my profile while simply trying to enter the game.

    all these songs are at baseline now.

    ugh. how long does it take for rs to learn to start songs higher?

  • Gnome-InterruptusGnome-Interruptus Registered User regular
    oh god damn it! I accidentally deleted my profile while simply trying to enter the game.

    all these songs are at baseline now.

    ugh. how long does it take for rs to learn to start songs higher?

    I'm tempted to do that for my PS3 now, since my old progress is actually intimidating me somewhat from coming back to the game.

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  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    oh god damn it! I accidentally deleted my profile while simply trying to enter the game.

    all these songs are at baseline now.

    ugh. how long does it take for rs to learn to start songs higher?

    I'm tempted to do that for my PS3 now, since my old progress is actually intimidating me somewhat from coming back to the game.

    I won't lie there were a few songs where it was nice to start over on (like that damn Rondo *shudder*). Turns out it doesn't take too long for it to start the learning process again. I cranked up a few songs I knew well and everything else is starting higher. I'm guessing it judges starting difficulty based on average %

  • President RexPresident Rex Registered User regular
    oh god damn it! I accidentally deleted my profile while simply trying to enter the game.

    all these songs are at baseline now.

    ugh. how long does it take for rs to learn to start songs higher?

    I set it up on my laptop and if you're 100%-ing everything early in the song, there's a good chance you'll be really high by the end. You could also go into riff repeater and set it all at 100% before playing (although that may become tedious for 100+ songs. Or you could just play the score attack versions. I don't know if those do anything with your % in the Learn a Song mode.


  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    Three Days Grace Song Pack – $11.99

    Three Days Grace “Animal I Have Become” – Drop C
    Three Days Grace “Break” – Drop D
    Three Days Grace “Just Like You” – Eb Drop Db
    Three Days Grace “Never Too Late” – Drop D
    Three Days Grace “Riot” – Drop C

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  • TommattTommatt Registered User regular
    Banzai5150 wrote: »
    Three Days Grace Song Pack – $11.99

    Three Days Grace “Animal I Have Become” – Drop C
    Three Days Grace “Break” – Drop D
    Three Days Grace “Just Like You” – Eb Drop Db
    Three Days Grace “Never Too Late” – Drop D
    Three Days Grace “Riot” – Drop C

    I like these songs, but I hate seeing drop C

  • initiatefailureinitiatefailure Registered User regular
    I mean I have a guitar in D already... And I still rarely play a lot of the alt tunings.

    But I also know nothing about this band

  • BhowBhow Sunny day, sweeping the clouds away. On my way to where the air is sweet.Registered User regular
    oh god damn it! I accidentally deleted my profile while simply trying to enter the game.

    all these songs are at baseline now.

    ugh. how long does it take for rs to learn to start songs higher?

    Depending on your preference, you can also turn dynamic difficulty off globally in the options.

  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    edited January 2015
    Odd I went looking at the Wikipedia for rocksmith 2014 and it has listed
    "Rainbow in the Dark" Dio 1983
    "Ace of Spades" Motörhead 1980
    "Rock and Roll, Hoochie Koo" Rick Derringer
    "Renegade" Styx
    "Cherry Pie" Warrant
    as part of the classic riff singles that came out on the 20th yet I cannot find them on steam

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  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    their on steam, but you have to search for Rocksmith 2014 dio, etc...

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  • BartholamueBartholamue Registered User regular
    I search for rocksmith, and then I sort for release date. You'll find it.

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  • Banzai5150Banzai5150 Registered User regular
    Power Ballad Singles ($2.99/song)

    Boston “Amanda” – Drop D [Bass]
    Cinderella “Don’t Know What You Got (Till it’s Gone)”
    Extreme “More Than Words” – Eb Standard
    Poison “Every Rose Has Its Thorn” – Eb Standard
    Tesla “Love Song”

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  • BrainleechBrainleech 機知に富んだコメントはここにあります Registered User regular
    Well 2 of the 5 I will probably get one of them for sure.

  • JOE_1967JOE_1967 Registered User regular
    Gah! Cheesy power ballads are my kryptonite! Especially if they do a couple of verse/chorus repetitions on an acoustic guitar, then kick in crunching power chords on the bridge, followed by a soaring, melodic solo.

  • cooljammer00cooljammer00 Hey Small Christmas-Man!Registered User regular
    I would think More Than Words would be more of an acoustic fingerpicked type song.

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