So, at the end of the last episode, was anyone thinking for a second (before they figured out where they were) "Well, it's about time they got to London during the Blitz?"
Also, last episode Ray mentions having always wanted to be a spy. Maybe a reference to his recurring character on Chuck?
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So, at the end of the last episode, was anyone thinking for a second (before they figured out where they were) "Well, it's about time they got to London during the Blitz?"
I wanted this so badly, but Future Star City is fine too.
while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
I always point this out when people say things like that:
None of the people posting on this board know what the internal workings of those companies are. We don't know what they are and aren't allowed to use, especially since the announcement that the embargo in it's form at the time was no longer the ruling word at DC
Anyone that says otherwise is either speaking out of their ass, or has information none of the rest of us have and should share
while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
I always point this out when people say things like that:
None of the people posting on this board know what the internal workings of those companies are. We don't know what they are and aren't allowed to use, especially since the announcement that the embargo in it's form at the time was no longer the ruling word at DC
Anyone that says otherwise is either speaking out of their ass, or has information none of the rest of us have and should share
They did kill Waller after that announcement. There's also how Supergirl hasn't ever shown Superman.
Also, Tsujihara became WB's chief executive in 2013. And Arrow couldn't use Harley and had to kill off Deadshot.
In reality, WB is smart to not just hand their golden IP (referencing Supes, Bats or high tier characters) to any TV show that feels like using them.
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In reality, WB is smart to not just hand their golden IP (referencing Supes, Bats or high tier characters) to any TV show that feels like using them.
I don't see the harm, especially with shows under Berlanti. It's exposure, and aside from Gotham I have more faith in them with those IP's than the movie branch.
edit: They already have many Batman characters on their worst show anyway.
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while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
I always point this out when people say things like that:
None of the people posting on this board know what the internal workings of those companies are. We don't know what they are and aren't allowed to use, especially since the announcement that the embargo in it's form at the time was no longer the ruling word at DC
Anyone that says otherwise is either speaking out of their ass, or has information none of the rest of us have and should share
They did kill Waller after that announcement. There's also how Supergirl hasn't ever shown Superman.
Also, Tsujihara became WB's chief executive in 2013. And Arrow couldn't use Harley and had to kill off Deadshot.
They've shown superman from the back. They're fine showing superman, they just haven't cast him yet.
In reality, WB is smart to not just hand their golden IP (referencing Supes, Bats or high tier characters) to any TV show that feels like using them.
I don't see the harm, especially with shows under Berlanti. It's exposure, and aside from Gotham I have more faith in them with those IP's than the movie branch.
edit: They already have many Batman characters on their worst show anyway.
They need continuity, they can only use them in terrible shows so they match the terrible movies
If DC wanted to capitalize on the success of Deadpool without directly copying it (which I know is a hard thing for executives :P), I have two words:
Booster Gold
The story of a narcissistic time traveler that goes into the past using his superior future technology to become a super hero (because he can't hack it as a hero in the future - he's basically cheating), specifically so he can become rich and famous (i.e. licensing and endorsements and the like). Also he has a little robot drone side kick and all the other heroes automatically hate him.
Still my favorite episode of the Justice League cartoon
Of course, this would be it's own thing (only really copying the "funny superhero" mold), so they probably won't do it. At least without ripping off all the stuff like 4th wall breaking, etc.
Man, Legends of Tomorrow would be so much better (and make more sense) if it was about Booster Gold and his team of fuckups.
Legends of tomorrow is a show that is so absurdly mismanaged I'm honestly amazed; they keep blowing past all of these plots that would normally be resolved over the course of a season and it leaves me wondering how they're going to keep it going for a full 13 episode run.
Frankly, leaving BG out of it is the best thing they could have done for the character IMHO.
At this point, I'm 95 percent convinced that Legends is purposefully heading for a hard reset of the premise sometime this season. The show's still dumb, but the writing shows moments where they seem to strongly hint that there's something really off with the entire mission. I can't tell if that's a real thing, or me just being very charitable with the show.
Not to get too off-topic, but you're saying the show is pretty much like Gotham?
Nah. Gotham was a late season retool based on poor early feedback.
I think Legends is purposefully setting up some sort of massive twist. There's a lot that doesn't make sense of the face of it - which may just be because that's what the show is - but there have been a bunch of little hints that makes me think that the show's planning to do something tricky with the premise before the season ends.
Yeah, the relationship between Stein and Palmer is a weird note they kept harping on and I don't know if I buy the solution. There's also Snart messing with his family's history and the utter lack of reference to Ray or Sarah being off on time adventures when they get brought up on Arrow. I honestly forget, has Constantine been mentioned on Legends yet? Because Sarah's bloodlust was supposed to be gone, wasn't it?
while I figured it would be completely plausible for Ollie to still be operating - though I still imagined in more of a Batman Beyond way - my husband pointed out that the brief glimpse of Deathstroke was the odd thing, if it's still Slade Wilson. The character may not be this age, but Manu Bennett is 46 right now. It's more plausible that that is someone else taking that name.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
I always point this out when people say things like that:
None of the people posting on this board know what the internal workings of those companies are. We don't know what they are and aren't allowed to use, especially since the announcement that the embargo in it's form at the time was no longer the ruling word at DC
Anyone that says otherwise is either speaking out of their ass, or has information none of the rest of us have and should share
They did kill Waller after that announcement. There's also how Supergirl hasn't ever shown Superman.
Also, Tsujihara became WB's chief executive in 2013. And Arrow couldn't use Harley and had to kill off Deadshot.
They've shown superman from the back. They're fine showing superman, they just haven't cast him yet.
Meanwhile Harley Quinn can't get 3 seconds footage with her back to the audience without getting retconned from existence.
I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
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I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
Granted, Sarah left basically right after that. They might not realize she still has it.
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I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
Granted, Sarah left basically right after that. They might not realize she still has it.
I just think its again the poor level of writing we've already seen on Legends.
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
Granted, Sarah left basically right after that. They might not realize she still has it.
I just think its again the poor level of writing we've already seen on Legends.
That does seem more likely.
There's no plan, there's no race to be run
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I mean I know I'm crapping on the show, but really it went from something I was excited about to "Good lord some logical consistency from episode to episode!"
I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.
I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
There was no retconning, very next Arrow episode she murderized a guy because of the bloodlust, and that's what triggered her leaving.
Constantine's efforts means she won't slowly die off if she doesn't kill like Thea almost did, but that urge is still there, compounded by the fact that she's an assassin trained to kill without a second thought.
I gotta rewatch the Constantine episode to be sure but I think all he did was get her soul back or something like that, not necessarily remove the other side effects of the pit.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
I think you're blaming the wrong show's writing in this particular case. I am pretty sure that Arrow's the one that got it wrong in that episode.
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It's going beyond ridiculous how many times they don't kill Savage for no reason/kill him and leave him behind/don't actually kill him KENDRA WAS RIGHT THERE AHHHH.... Yeah, the writing is pretty bad.
I found the storyline where Sarah goes crazy killer because she lost her sole to be a bit sexist towards women. As if shoes are the only thing that matters to them.
They can never actually defeat Vandal Savage. He will always win, because he always wins. The entire season will be about all of them coming to that realization. They've already shown it with Cold's Dad.
Or, whatever, they kill him, think the day is saved, and go home. Which just makes something worse rise in his place, and we get an S2 with a whole new cast because REASONS. (I like the current cast, by the way.)
Oliver Queen and Conner Hawk? Great! Captain Cold v. Heatwave on their purpose here? Good! Sara v. Rip on what's worth saving? Good. Ray being helpfully cheerful? OK, guy still needs a real win but it's nice to see him having a positive impact. Kendra's sole purpose this episode to be pursued by guys? Uf.
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Batman was active into his late 60s, if I recall my Batman Beyond.
Also, last episode Ray mentions having always wanted to be a spy. Maybe a reference to his recurring character on Chuck?
And Oliver is, at the youngest, 30 right now.
This is comic books, anything is possible.
Plus 30 years of medical advancement? Easy.
I wanted this so badly, but Future Star City is fine too.
I'm hoping since they crashed that this episode will have zero to actually do with Vandal Savage. They obviously need a respite from going after him since they keep screwing up so badly.
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None of the people posting on this board know what the internal workings of those companies are. We don't know what they are and aren't allowed to use, especially since the announcement that the embargo in it's form at the time was no longer the ruling word at DC
Anyone that says otherwise is either speaking out of their ass, or has information none of the rest of us have and should share
They can use
They did kill Waller after that announcement. There's also how Supergirl hasn't ever shown Superman.
Also, Tsujihara became WB's chief executive in 2013. And Arrow couldn't use Harley and had to kill off Deadshot.
The "saying it as if it were literal truth" is the problem
Do you have a source for your claim in that spoiler? Or are you just guessing?
In reality, WB is smart to not just hand their golden IP (referencing Supes, Bats or high tier characters) to any TV show that feels like using them.
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I don't see the harm, especially with shows under Berlanti. It's exposure, and aside from Gotham I have more faith in them with those IP's than the movie branch.
edit: They already have many Batman characters on their worst show anyway.
They've shown superman from the back. They're fine showing superman, they just haven't cast him yet.
They need continuity, they can only use them in terrible shows so they match the terrible movies
Yeah, the relationship between Stein and Palmer is a weird note they kept harping on and I don't know if I buy the solution. There's also Snart messing with his family's history and the utter lack of reference to Ray or Sarah being off on time adventures when they get brought up on Arrow. I honestly forget, has Constantine been mentioned on Legends yet? Because Sarah's bloodlust was supposed to be gone, wasn't it?
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Meanwhile Harley Quinn can't get 3 seconds footage with her back to the audience without getting retconned from existence.
In an arrow episode Thea is specifically told that what Constantine did fixed Sarah entirely and she wouldn't have the issue that Thea has. Legends clearly retcons that a bit.
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Granted, Sarah left basically right after that. They might not realize she still has it.
The harder the rain, honey, the sweeter the sun.
I just think its again the poor level of writing we've already seen on Legends.
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That does seem more likely.
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There was no retconning, very next Arrow episode she murderized a guy because of the bloodlust, and that's what triggered her leaving.
Constantine's efforts means she won't slowly die off if she doesn't kill like Thea almost did, but that urge is still there, compounded by the fact that she's an assassin trained to kill without a second thought.
I think you're blaming the wrong show's writing in this particular case. I am pretty sure that Arrow's the one that got it wrong in that episode.
Or, whatever, they kill him, think the day is saved, and go home. Which just makes something worse rise in his place, and we get an S2 with a whole new cast because REASONS. (I like the current cast, by the way.)
Vandal Savage takes pictures of Firestorm and successfully reverse engineers the technology 3 decades before Stein invents it? No problem.
Captain Cold wants to prevent his dad from going to prison? No can do. Time is a fickle mistress.
Nice cyborg arm.
Still the best episode so far.
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