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[Arrow] Team Arrow Appreciation Thread

ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
edited February 2015 in Debate and/or Discourse
Arrow is a show on CW entering it's third season. Why should you watch? Because it's pretty darn good Superhero TV series. It's what The Cape aspired to be and failed. It's what Smallville could never be. It's the story of Oliver Queen, notorious party boy has been presumed dead for the last five years. Upon returning, the City's favorite son has a mission. To punish those who have failed his city.
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Arrow FAQ:

Q: Do I need to know anything about Green Arrow to enjoy the show?
A: No. It's an origin story that they've spread out over three seasons and likely more. The show is really intended to be very friendly to new viewers who know nothing about the character at all. Or anything else in the DC universe.

Q: If I know Green Arrow, will I be bored?
A: Nope. They have taken some liberties. Just enough changes to make it unpredictable but not so much as to ruin the spirit. A lot of classic villains have been reimagined but while keeping them pretty true to the core nature. The show is really great about understanding the spirit of the comics without being overly slavish in their devotion.

Q: Is this full of silly gadgets and Arrow mobiles?
A: Kinda. There are some gadget arrows but Ollie isn't using any boxing glove arrows except that one time. Mostly it's stuff like arrows with recorders and zip line arrows. And it's really the Arrow Cycle.

Q:What about the supporting cast?
A: We've got a couple.

John Diggle. Bodyguard. Sidekick. Moral center point.
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Felicity Smoak. Hacker. Gadget Guru. Arrow's Oracle.
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Roy Harper. Arsenal.
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And a number of others.

Q: I hear Steven Amell takes off his shirt a lot.
A: Pretty much every episode. Honestly, if I had those abs I wouldn't wear a shirt either. In more current seasons this toned down a bit.

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Q: I missed the first season. Will I be lost?
A: We live in the age of Netflix. http://movies.netflix.com/WiMovie/70242081?strkid=1855807268_0_0&trkid=222336&movieid=70242081 It's on instant watch.

Q: So maybe I want to read some Green Arrow Comic books, where do I start?
A: I'd start with The Longbow Hunters. It's a standalone graphic novel about Ollie going back to his roots. It also serves as a bit of inspiration for the show. DC just put it out in digital form. Also Green Arrow Year One is an updated origin story. Green Arrow: Archer's Quest is about Ollie returning from the dead and collecting various bits of his past that might give away his identity. An excellent story and a solid overview of the Emerald Archer's history. Quiver was Kevin Smith's take on Green Arrow and it's pretty much the exact opposite of Smith's Batman. And of course the classic Hard Traveling Heroes from the Green Lantern/Green Arrow series. Ollie and Hal road trip across the US being friends. Also Ollie spends most of the time rubbing Hal's nose in how much of a dick he is.

Q: When is it on?
A: Wednesdays at 8 P.M. on the CW.

Q: Is this tied into the fucking terrible DC movies?
A: Oh god no. Thank god.

Q: I like comics. Should I watch this?
A: Yes. Seriously.

Q: Should I totally bring up the idea that if Arrow just killed every fucking villain then it would all be good?
A: The Arkham debate is an old one. It's been brought up the entire time I've been a comics fan. It's been done a billion times in a billion comic book fan discussion. It's one of those things that's been driven so far into the ground that we had a funeral for it. The odds of anyone having an original thought on it at this point is unlikely. So when ever you feel like bring it up, keep in mind two very important facts.

1. It's a TV show. Recurring villains are a thing.
2. It's based on comic books. Heroes aren't the only ones who come back from the dead.

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  • KilnagaKilnaga Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    Arrow is a show on CW entering it's second season.

    Copy and Pasted OP is obvious. Arrow is on its third season now.

    Just sayin'

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  • DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    But he did update the bit about it being spread over four seasons, so...?

  • abotkinabotkin Registered User regular
    Also, is there a reason the thread title is "apprication" and not "appreciation"? I mean, given the show, it could just be a bad pun using engrish, but I don't see how "application" makes sense in the context.

    On that note, I'm amused that because of Arrow's rather hilarious use of engrish that this is even a question and not just an obvious typo.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    It's a mirakuru you even noticed.

  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    If they're taking applications I'm first in line

  • Brainiac 8Brainiac 8 Don't call me Shirley... Registered User regular
    I need a Oliver/Barry/Ray team-up episode. Also, I really hope that Atom shrinks down.

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  • FoefallerFoefaller Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Brainiac 8 wrote: »
    I need a Oliver/Barry/Ray team-up episode. Also, I really hope that Atom shrinks down.

    Yes, so that he and the Arrow can do this:

    http://i.imgur.com/0neAHGT.gif

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  • KashaarKashaar Low OrbitRegistered User regular
    @Thomamelas Pureeez fix up that typo in the topic, my poor grammar nazi sense is tickling me something fierce!

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    Typos corrected. They happen when you make a thread at 2 am.

  • TransporterTransporter Registered User regular
    Arrow thread I have a problem.

    Other than Hulu being dumb and now I can't catch up on it any more.

    I have become highly, highly invested in OlliexFelicity. Like, TWILIGHT levels of terrible invesment. I did not know my brain was capable of this, but I found out it was, when
    Ollie and Felicity went on a legit date for the first time then actual Count Vertigo shot it with a rocket launcher
    .

    I immediatly stopped watching. Like literally shut down Hulu and have not watched a single episode since. Not because I hate Arrow. I freakin LOVE Arrow. It's just apparently I'm that invested.

    I've been keeping up with spoilers though, somewhat though. So, Arrow thread, question...
    Is it correct in me thinking that they have offically promoted OllieXFelicity to PRIMARY SHIP? Meaning that we are going to get the full CW illogical Laurel levels relationship bullshit?

    Because if so, I can watch again. I will hate every second of it but as long as OlliexFelicity is the only wimmens drama going on I think my heart can take poorly done and completly overwrought soap opera nonsense

  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    Uh... just keep watching. :)

  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    I've become WAY to obsessed with this show. I don't know what it is, but it's honestly the perfect tv show at this point in my life. I usually save Tuesday's Flash to watch that and then Arrow back to back on Wednesdays. I'm hoping in S4 Arrows S2 Flash they just move them both to Wednesday nights.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    I've become WAY to obsessed with this show. I don't know what it is, but it's honestly the perfect tv show at this point in my life. I usually save Tuesday's Flash to watch that and then Arrow back to back on Wednesdays. I'm hoping in S4 Arrows S2 Flash they just move them both to Wednesday nights.

    Makes too much sense, no the W's will probably put a brand new show that sucks on after both to try and get the audience to transfer and it won't work.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    I've become WAY to obsessed with this show. I don't know what it is, but it's honestly the perfect tv show at this point in my life. I usually save Tuesday's Flash to watch that and then Arrow back to back on Wednesdays. I'm hoping in S4 Arrows S2 Flash they just move them both to Wednesday nights.

    Makes too much sense, no the W's will probably put a brand new show that sucks on after both to try and get the audience to transfer and it won't work.

    Sadly, one of those shows might be Atom. I'm still not sold on a third show.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Atom wouldn't be too bad, though I believe they are still in the talks stage of that.

    Just currently they have supernatural after flash, and the 100 on after arrow and neither show makes sense. Hell if anything arrow makes more sense as a 9pm show because of the violence. Though I appreciate the current scheduling because it means on tuesday right now I can watch agent carter after Flash.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s206/arrow/news/a627510/arrow-david-ramsey-hints-at-diggle-becoming-green-lantern.html#~p3Pre2lgZqUTZr

    Don't know if this was posted in the old thread, but there's a rumor that Ramsey is neither confirming nor denying that they may be turning him into the WB TV universe Green Lantern.

    I'd be psyched to see Diggle finally get his mask.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yeah it was posted, I really doubt they'll do green diggle. I mean Diggle was added to the comics and I don't think he became Green Lantern there.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • ThomamelasThomamelas Only one man can kill this many Russians. Bring his guitar to me! Registered User regular
    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s206/arrow/news/a627510/arrow-david-ramsey-hints-at-diggle-becoming-green-lantern.html#~p3Pre2lgZqUTZr

    Don't know if this was posted in the old thread, but there's a rumor that Ramsey is neither confirming nor denying that they may be turning him into the WB TV universe Green Lantern.

    I'd be psyched to see Diggle finally get his mask.

    Oh god, could we get an entire crossover season where he and Ollie road trip across the country?

  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s206/arrow/news/a627510/arrow-david-ramsey-hints-at-diggle-becoming-green-lantern.html#~p3Pre2lgZqUTZr

    Don't know if this was posted in the old thread, but there's a rumor that Ramsey is neither confirming nor denying that they may be turning him into the WB TV universe Green Lantern.

    I'd be psyched to see Diggle finally get his mask.

    Oh god, could we get an entire crossover season where he and Ollie road trip across the country?

    And all of it mysteriously looks just like vancouver.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Thomamelas wrote: »
    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s206/arrow/news/a627510/arrow-david-ramsey-hints-at-diggle-becoming-green-lantern.html#~p3Pre2lgZqUTZr

    Don't know if this was posted in the old thread, but there's a rumor that Ramsey is neither confirming nor denying that they may be turning him into the WB TV universe Green Lantern.

    I'd be psyched to see Diggle finally get his mask.

    Oh god, could we get an entire crossover season where he and Ollie road trip across the country?

    And all of it mysteriously looks just like vancouver.

    I'd like to see Diggle, Ollie, and Barry just looking at Roy and Ollie just says "Shut up Meg..."

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  • SorceSorce Not ThereRegistered User regular
    Actually, wasn't the road trip (or rather, the return from) the beginning of Roy's heroin arc?

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Sorce wrote: »
    Actually, wasn't the road trip (or rather, the return from) the beginning of Roy's heroin arc?

    I kind of got the opinion that they basically retconned that to his issues in S2, but I guess anything is possible. The only way I'd see him turning to heroin is if Thea died or something.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Although, having said that. Thea dying, Roy turning to drugs, and then her coming back from the Lazarus pit like half a season later would make for some good tv

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Although, having said that. Thea dying, Roy turning to drugs, and then her coming back from the Lazarus pit like half a season later would make for some good tv

    Roy's gonna have trouble finding mirakuru again.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Yeah they basically sped through Roy's drug problem with Mirakuru instead of Heroin. To do the same angle again would be dumb.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    I say turning to drugs because he didn't really have a choice in Season 2.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    I say turning to drugs because he didn't really have a choice in Season 2.

    I thought they chose Mirakuru because Roy being a heroin addict wasn't going to fly with CW. The one street drug they do have on the show is fictional.

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    i love you colton haynes but let's not strain your acting abilities too much poor dear

  • amateurhouramateurhour One day I'll be professionalhour The woods somewhere in TennesseeRegistered User regular
    Greeper wrote: »
    i love you colton haynes but let's not strain your acting abilities too much poor dear

    Seriously. I've actually paused and rewound scenes where he's emoted to a line someone else gives before they deliver it. Like completely missed his mark. It's happened more than once. Also he's fond of Matt LeBlanc's "smell the fart" style of acting.

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  • DritzDritz CanadaRegistered User regular
    http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/s206/arrow/news/a627510/arrow-david-ramsey-hints-at-diggle-becoming-green-lantern.html#~p3Pre2lgZqUTZr

    Don't know if this was posted in the old thread, but there's a rumor that Ramsey is neither confirming nor denying that they may be turning him into the WB TV universe Green Lantern.

    I'd be psyched to see Diggle finally get his mask.

    People have liked to speculate that Diggle is one green lantern in particular, John Stewart. For non-comic book fans one characteristic of John is that he doesn't wear a mask.

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  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Sadly, there is no way in hell Diggle will be a Green Lantern. Does anyone actually think it's possible?

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    edited February 2015
    I want to believe!

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Sadly, there is no way in hell Diggle will be a Green Lantern. Does anyone actually think it's possible?

    Look man, if you told me 3 years ago we'd be getting Flash, Supergirl, and Teen Titans shows all in the same universe and that we'd be seeing Brandon Routh as The Atom on Arrow, I'd have said you were fucking nuts.

    I want to believe.

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  • Harry DresdenHarry Dresden Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Sadly, there is no way in hell Diggle will be a Green Lantern. Does anyone actually think it's possible?

    Look man, if you told me 3 years ago we'd be getting Flash, Supergirl, and Teen Titans shows all in the same universe and that we'd be seeing Brandon Routh as The Atom on Arrow, I'd have said you were fucking nuts.

    I want to believe.

    Diggle being Green Lantern means he won't be on Arrow, he'd too powerful as a super-hero. Team Arrow will have nothing to do.

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  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    edited February 2015
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Sadly, there is no way in hell Diggle will be a Green Lantern. Does anyone actually think it's possible?

    Look man, if you told me 3 years ago we'd be getting Flash, Supergirl, and Teen Titans shows all in the same universe and that we'd be seeing Brandon Routh as The Atom on Arrow, I'd have said you were fucking nuts.

    I want to believe.

    Diggle being Green Lantern means he won't be on Arrow, he'd too powerful as a super-hero. Team Arrow will have nothing to do.

    I am totally okay with a Green Lantern spinoff. Don't underestimate my willingness to populate the entire tv landscape with Justice League components.

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  • jdarksunjdarksun Struggler CORegistered User regular
    I could also see Diggle becoming a Lantern in the slowest of slow burns.

  • ArchArch Neat-o, mosquito! Registered User regular
    jdarksun wrote: »
    I could also see Diggle becoming a Lantern in the slowest of slow burns.

    even if it takes an entire season

    hell two seasons

    three

    I would do whatever it takes for digglantern

  • XeddicusXeddicus Registered User regular
    Sure, while technically possible like anything else this suffers from there being literally nothing to suggest this other than "Hey, he's black...his name is John... Green Lantern!". While ignoring stuff like the above power problem, DC letting him be on the small screen, letting a no-name (in the grand scheme of things) actor have the part, budget concerns etc... Though maybe after the bomb of the movie maybe they'd get desperate....oh look, now I'm doing it!

  • minor incidentminor incident expert in a dying field ---Registered User, Transition Team regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Sure, while technically possible like anything else this suffers from there being literally nothing to suggest this other than "Hey, he's black...his name is John... Green Lantern!". While ignoring stuff like the above power problem, DC letting him be on the small screen, letting a no-name (in the grand scheme of things) actor have the part, budget concerns etc... Though maybe after the bomb of the movie maybe they'd get desperate....oh look, now I'm doing it!

    SEE HOW QUICKLY IT TAKES HOLD?

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  • GreeperGreeper Registered User regular
    Xeddicus wrote: »
    Sure, while technically possible like anything else this suffers from there being literally nothing to suggest this other than "Hey, he's black...his name is John... Green Lantern!". While ignoring stuff like the above power problem, DC letting him be on the small screen, letting a no-name (in the grand scheme of things) actor have the part, budget concerns etc... Though maybe after the bomb of the movie maybe they'd get desperate....oh look, now I'm doing it!

    SEE HOW QUICKLY IT TAKES HOLD?

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