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The [chat] that is not about Drake

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    oh well I'm too slow

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    The King of All Shenanigans. If you were to put options backdating
    on one side of a scale that weighs dishonesty, and any other
    shenanigan on the other side, we believe that backdating would always
    be heavier. Why? Because all other shenanigans are designed
    to enrich management in a complicated, indirect manner, while
    backdating does so without any serious effort at all. Look at all the
    “hard work” Enron executives had to do to create all those crazy
    joint ventures to make results appear better! Look at the acquisition
    activity at Tyco and the gyrations that Symbol Technologies went
    through in order to get positive results! And no matter how much
    cheating went on at these companies, there was never a guarantee that
    the stock price would respond accordingly. With options backdating,
    however, management barely had to lift a finger in order to cheat.
    And, of course, the process guaranteed a positive result. For this
    reason, we crown backdating as the King of all Shenanigans.

    The options backdating scheme was really quite simple. Before
    finalizing an option grant, executives pulled up the stock chart and
    looked back in time to find a date on which the stock price was at
    a much lower level. They then said hocus pocus and “backdated”
    the paperwork to make it seem as if the stock option had really
    been granted on that earlier date. And voilà, the stock options had
    instant value. Of course, options backdating had accounting implications
    as well. By not reporting the compensation expense resulting
    from these “in-the-money” grants, companies were overstating
    their earnings to shareholders.

    Few companies abused options backdating as much as semiconductor
    giant Broadcom Corp. The saga began when Broadcom’s
    board initiated a review of option-granting practices on May 18,
    2006, two days after a seminal CFRA (Center for Financial Research
    and Analysis) survey on options backdating listed Broadcom as
    one of the companies “presenting the highest risk of having backdated
    options” (Figure 7-1 shows one of Broadcom’s backdating

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    charts). After two months of investigating, Broadcom finally admitted
    what it had done and estimated that this abuse of the system
    had allowed the company to avoid a whopping $750 million
    in compensation expense. But that was not the end of the story.
    The following January, Broadcom shocked investors by announcing
    an unbelievable $2.2 billion expense, which tripled the original
    estimate and trumped the $1.5 billion estimated restatement record
    held by former backdating champion UnitedHealth Group.

    Some executives still argue to this day that the media blew the
    backdating scandal out of proportion and that the misdated grants
    were simply caused by “careless record keeping.” Au contraire.
    (We weren’t permitted to use stronger language in this PG-rated
    book.) The sheer pervasiveness of this scandal across hundreds of
    companies actually makes it seem that many executives considered
    backdating to be a perk of running a public company. But don’t
    take our word for it—see for yourself. Figure 7-1 provides some
    snapshots depicting one of many dates on which three companies
    granted options to executives. Can anyone really say with a straight
    face that these grants were the result of careless record keeping?

    Failure to Record a Portion of an Expense Related to a Transaction
    Remember our earlier discussion of the quirky two-part transaction
    between Intel and Marvell? Intel sold a business to Marvell in
    2006 at what seemed to be a discount, and, simultaneously, Marvell
    agreed to pay above list price for a certain amount of product later
    to be purchased from Intel. (See Marvell’s footnote shown here.) As
    explained in Chapter 3, Intel appeared to structure this transaction
    in a way that allowed it to understate the gain from the one-time
    asset sale and overstate the more desirable stream of revenue (by
    overcharging on the product sales).
    Marvell’s 10-Q Discussion about its
    Transaction with Intel

    In conjunction with the acquisition of the ICAP Business,
    the Company entered into a supply agreement with Intel.
    The supply agreement obligates the Company to purchase
    certain finished product and sorted wafers at a contracted
    price from Intel for a contracted period of time. The contracted
    period of time can differ between finished products
    and sorted wafers. Intel’s pricing to the Company was greater
    than comparable prices available to the Company in the market in
    almost all cases. In accordance with purchase accounting, the
    Company recorded a liability at contract signing representing the
    difference between Intel prices and comparable market prices for
    those products for which the Company had a contractual obligation.
    [Italics added for emphasis.]

    Now, let’s look at this same two-way transaction, but from Marvell’s
    perspective. Marvell essentially paid Intel less money up
    front to purchase the business, and in exchange, agreed to purchase
    inventory from Intel at an inflated price. While it sounds
    as if this transaction will cause Marvell’s earnings to be lower
    in future periods, as it is overpaying for inventory, this is actually
    not the case. It appears that Marvell accounted for the entire
    overpayment by recording a liability (or reserve) on its Balance
    Sheet, which it would draw down over time as a reduction of
    cost of goods sold (to “offset” the inflated prices). There was
    no need for Marvell to record an expense to create this reserve,
    since it already had been set up in the purchase accounting for
    the acquisition. In essence, Marvell created a “cookie jar” reserve
    without recording an expense, and it used this reserve to
    offset overpayments as it saw fit. Indeed, this transaction actually
    provided Marvell with more discretion over its earnings each
    quarter.

    2. Failing to Record an Expense for a Necessary Accrual
    or Reversing a Past Expense

    Management sometimes fails to record the necessary expense accruals
    for expected costs. These accruals are generally company
    estimates of routine liabilities incurred in normal business operations,
    such as a manufacturer’s warranty. Often these costs are estimated
    and recorded at the very end of a quarter. In the previous
    chapter, we introduced the concept of expense accruals (reserves)
    and highlighted reserves that are recorded as reductions to assets,
    such as the allowance for doubtful accounts and the inventory
    obsolescence reserve. In this section, we discuss reserves for estimated
    obligations that are shown as liabilities.

    Failing to appropriately record an expense for these costs, or reversing
    past expenses, will inflate earnings. Since these costs rely on
    management assumptions and discretionary estimates, all management
    needs to do to generate more earnings (and achieve Wall Street
    targets) is to tweak these assumptions. To illustrate, consider the
    shenanigans that occurred at Dell Computer from 2003 through the
    beginning of fiscal 2007. The published findings of a special investigation
    conducted by Dell’s audit committee in 2007 (as presented
    here) provide some fantastic, juicy details about Dell’s games with
    reserves (don’t skip the box; there is some amazing stuff in there).
    Dell’s Discussion of Its Audit Committee
    Investigation Findings in an August 2007 8-K
    The investigation raised questions relating to numerous accounting
    issues, most of which involved adjustments to various
    reserve and accrued liability accounts, and identified
    evidence that certain adjustments appear to have been motivated
    by the objective of attaining financial targets. According
    to the investigation, these activities typically occurred in the
    days immediately following the end of a quarter, when
    the accounting books were being closed and the results of
    the quarter were being compiled. The investigation found
    evidence that, in that timeframe, account balances were reviewed,
    sometimes at the request or with the knowledge of
    senior executives, with the goal of seeking adjustments so
    that quarterly performance objectives could be met. The investigation
    concluded that a number of these adjustments
    were improper, including the creation and release of accruals
    and reserves that appear to have been made for the
    purpose of enhancing internal performance measures or reported
    results, as well as the transfer of excess accruals from
    one liability account to another and the use of the excess balances
    to offset unrelated expenses in later periods.

    Watch for Declines in Reserves for Warranties or Warranty
    Expense.
    Many companies bundle expensive warranties with
    their products, covering potential problems that could arise years
    after the purchase. For example, if you were to purchase a laptop
    from Dell, it might come with a two-year warranty promising that
    Dell will replace or repair all defective parts during that period.
    Dell cannot just wait and see how much it will wind up spending
    on warranty costs for your computer before recording the expense.
    Accounting rules require Dell to record an expense for expected
    future warranty costs at the time the product is sold. Naturally,
    management can exercise great discretion in the amount it records
    as warranty expense each period. If it chooses too little, the profits
    will shoot up; if it chooses too much, profits will be constrained (or
    simply held back for a rainy day).

    Indeed, part of Dell’s restatement involved improper accounting
    for warranty liabilities. Again, the audit committee’s discussion of
    its findings is quite revealing and did such a great job of explaining
    the mechanics that we figured we’d let the committee teach you
    directly.
    Dell’s Discussion of Its Audit Committee
    Investigation Findings in an August 2007 8-K

    There were also instances where warranty reserves in excess
    of the estimated warranty liability, as calculated by the
    warranty liability estimation process, were retained and not
    released to the Statement of Income as appropriate. Additionally,
    certain adjustments in the warranty liability estimation
    process were identified where expected future costs or
    estimated failure rates were not accurate.

    Tip: A decline in warranty expense or warranty reserve relative
    to revenue may signal that earnings are being inflated through
    underaccruing for warranty obligations. Monitor these trends
    quarterly!

    Watch for Declines in the Employee Bonus Accrual. Employees
    earn bonuses over the course of the year, and naturally, accounting
    rules require that the expense be spread throughout the year
    even if the employees receive a single lump-sum payment. If management
    fails to record this accrual in any particular quarter, earn
    ings for that period will be overstated. Moreover, the inappropriate
    reversal of past bonus accruals will inflate earnings as well. Dell
    certainly was familiar with this simple trick, as the investigation
    found.
    Dell’s Discussion of Its Audit Committee
    Investigation Findings in an August 2007 8-K
    Certain employee bonuses were not accrued correctly, including
    the timing of the recording of the accrual for the
    employee bonuses. Additionally, in certain cases when
    excess accruals resulted from differences in the actual bonus
    payments, the excess accruals were not adjusted as
    appropriate.

    not very interesting anyway :p

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    ouch

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
    good morning friends

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    ronyaronya Arrrrrf. the ivory tower's basementRegistered User regular
    *hides*

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    Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    Rude

    poo
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    tyrannustyrannus i am not fat Registered User regular
    oh wow get dunked

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Tav wrote: »
    good morning friends

    Good morning, Drake.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Oh I see, the auto-split post is a special kind of post that I have no ability to edit/delete. Interesting.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    Good day

    I have cleared my living room table - well, I call it that, even though this is a one room apartment

    I have a shopping bag full of old magazines and junk mail and whatnot that was taking up space.

    But now I've got a bed full of stuff and I'm still stumped as to where this all should go

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    emnmnmeemnmnme Registered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Oh I see, the auto-split post is a special kind of post that I have no ability to edit/delete. Interesting.

    You meddled with powers you didn't fully comprehend and doomed us all.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Echo wrote: »
    https://github.com/crockpotveggies/tinderbox

    Of course a programmer writes a machine-learning app that analyzes your swipes in Tinder and builds a facial recognition model to predict whether you'll like someone or not and automates messaging.

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    I am so turned on right now.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    I have failed because I was playing Duke Nukem. Specifically this part:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzswU3Qc2fA

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Booo...

    I was writing a chat OP and saw jake posted one so I just saved it and this is the thread we get?

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Geth appreciates my human frailty.

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    815165815165 Registered User regular
    ingredients for temporary mental well being:

    bed
    cheesecake
    naps
    music
    a disregard for your obligations

    misery, distant loves, unreciprocated loves, unsaid words all sold separately

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

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    WashWash Sweet Christmas Registered User regular
    Jake's [chat]'s can't catch a break

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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Elki is a jealous God.

    Reading an excerpt from Jon Ronson's next book "So You've Been Publicly Shamed", in which he interviews a bunch of people, like Justine Sacco, who've been pilloried and fired after social media storms. It's pretty interesting. Here.

    Neither the person making the dumb joke about dongles nor the person who tweeted her disapproval profited, with the former being fired two days after the incident and the latter being fired after MRA types launched DDoS attacks on her company and said they'd only stop when she was fired.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

    Is there a No Drakes rule?

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    GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

    Since I'm late coming into this can the no Drake rule be explained?

    desc wrote: »
    ~ * swole patrol flying roundhouse kick top performer recognition: April 2014 * ~
    If you have a sec, check out my podcast: War and Beast Twitter Facebook
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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Didn't someone post that yesterday, Bogart? I feel like I read that already

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Elki is a jealous God.

    Reading an excerpt from Jon Ronson's next book "So You've Been Publicly Shamed", in which he interviews a bunch of people, like Justine Sacco, who've been pilloried and fired after social media storms. It's pretty interesting. Here.

    Neither the person making the dumb joke about dongles nor the person who tweeted her disapproval profited, with the former being fired two days after the incident and the latter being fired after MRA types launched DDoS attacks on her company and said they'd only stop when she was fired.

    Twitter is very much a look don't touch thing for me.

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Gonmun wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

    Since I'm late coming into this can the no Drake rule be explained?

    A: I don't like Drake.
    B: A.

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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    What about short appearances in otherwise flawless media?

    the music video for Anaconda, for example

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    ElkiElki get busy Moderator, ClubPA mod
    Elki wrote: »
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

    Is there a No Drakes rule?

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    Elki wrote: »
    Down with Drake. All dragons must die, and ducks too.

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    YoshisummonsYoshisummons You have to let the dead vote, otherwise you'd just kill people you disagree with!Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    Just because I'm sitting here drawing noses does not mean I value my time so little that I'm willing to help you do the homework that is due in 30mins.

    Yoshisummons on
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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

    Is there a No Drakes rule?

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    Elki wrote: »
    Down with Drake. All dragons must die, and ducks too.

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    SanderJKSanderJK Crocodylus Pontifex Sinterklasicus Madrid, 3000 ADRegistered User regular
    Elki wrote: »
    Elki wrote: »
    The no Drake rule has been harshly enforced since I ever thought of it, 5 minutes ago.

    Is there a No Drakes rule?

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    Elki wrote: »
    Down with Drake. All dragons must die, and ducks too.

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    Dragons is one thing.
    Screwing with the ducks though.... that can have consequences.

    Steam: SanderJK Origin: SanderJK
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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    This is a thread in which Geth expresses exquisite taste.

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    TavTav Irish Minister for DefenceRegistered User regular
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    god bless r/tinder

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    Shazkar ShadowstormShazkar Shadowstorm Registered User regular
    Lol I weighed 130 lbs this morning

    poo
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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
    Delmain wrote: »
    Didn't someone post that yesterday, Bogart? I feel like I read that already

    I dunno. Maybe? I didn't see it here.

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    AbdhyiusAbdhyius Registered User regular
    edited February 2015
    but Elki you're just a hater
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    look at that cutie pie
    the total size of these images is 492,3 Kb exactly

    in case you were wondering :P

    Abdhyius on
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    syndalissyndalis Getting Classy On the WallRegistered User, Loves Apple Products regular
    Wait wait wait

    did he draw that beard and those tats on with a sharpie?

    How could this possibly work?

    SW-4158-3990-6116
    Let's play Mario Kart or something...
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    BogartBogart Streetwise Hercules Registered User, Moderator mod
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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    Bogart wrote: »
    Delmain wrote: »
    Didn't someone post that yesterday, Bogart? I feel like I read that already

    I dunno. Maybe? I didn't see it here.

    Yeah, I started reading it and had that feeling that I'd read it before so I skipped around and kept feeling that way so I'm going to assume it was posted recently.

    I do agree that it's kind of bullshit though.

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    GonmunGonmun He keeps kickin' me in the dickRegistered User regular
    Well...shit...checking the weather for Sunday and it's calling for 50-65cms (over 20 inches for you non-metric heathens).

    desc wrote: »
    ~ * swole patrol flying roundhouse kick top performer recognition: April 2014 * ~
    If you have a sec, check out my podcast: War and Beast Twitter Facebook
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    DelmainDelmain Registered User regular
    syndalis wrote: »
    Wait wait wait

    did he draw that beard and those tats on with a sharpie?

    How could this possibly work?

    I'm honestly a bigger fan of the fact that he drives around in his pimp hwip

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    815165815165 Registered User regular
    why the fuck has vinny got marker on his face

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    I think I'm done with this piece... Liking it a lot.

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    But maybe the musical notes are a bit much... OH WELL!

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