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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    You know I just realized something, what does Bray do after Mania? Assuming he beats Taker and becomes the official new demonic character of WWE where does he go then? Does he get a title run this year?
    If Bray beats Taker and Reigns beats the guy who beat Taker, they have a thing going right away

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  • wirehead26wirehead26 Registered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    You know I just realized something, what does Bray do after Mania? Assuming he beats Taker and becomes the official new demonic character of WWE where does he go then? Does he get a title run this year?
    If Bray beats Taker and Reigns beats the guy who beat Taker, they have a thing going right away

    The issue there is it would interfere with Seth's cash in.

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    And also that one of them would have to lose when they both need to be getting huge pushes at that point

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  • TurambarTurambar Independent Registered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Turambar wrote: »
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    You know I just realized something, what does Bray do after Mania? Assuming he beats Taker and becomes the official new demonic character of WWE where does he go then? Does he get a title run this year?
    If Bray beats Taker and Reigns beats the guy who beat Taker, they have a thing going right away

    The issue there is it would interfere with Seth's cash in.

    Not really
    If Bray went after Roman it would keep Roman from going straight back to feuding with Seth to get the title back
    Then Seth could get Bryan or Dean instead

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  • BlankZoeBlankZoe Registered User regular
    But they should have Roman/Seth ASAP

    Like eventually cool it off so Dean gets his feud reignited but the whole Shield break-up and eventual triple threat should be the marquee storyline from post-WM till Summerslam

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    Here's another potential THE GUY we haven't mentioned in awhile; Big E. He's still easily salvageable if they want to push him to the top and he's got the skills to thrive I think. He deserves the chance at the very least.

    Still not tall enough. Also, black.

    Come on now.

    I am dead fucking serious.

    Vince likes his guys to be not only super bulky, but also taller than most. Big E would need to grow 2-3 inches to have a chance.

    Also, he's black. You have to have a ridiculous amount of charisma and presence to get over as a black guy in the WWE, and you can triple that if you want Vince to actually like you and consider you to be worthy of a push.

  • David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    He won the Intercontinental Championship once.

    He was not a multiple-time WWEWHC title holder with along and distinguished career at the top like John Cena. Or HHH. Or Randy Orton. Or Steve Austin...

  • HawkstoneHawkstone Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    There have been exceptions for sure, but there has never really been what I would call a diverse slate to hold the big belt in WWF/E. Then again a lot of WWE's performers of different ethnicities have either been saddled with a stereotype gimmick that is hard to take to the main event ( Samoan savage, inner city criminal etc..), have been hampered by the language barrier (notably Asian performers) or have been hampered by a lack general lack of promo skills at a time when a good manager wasn't available to carry that load ( Shelton Benjamin for example).

    I don't think the Vince and the WWE by extension are overtly racist...but I do think suffer from a low brow/ easiest out methodology of writing that impairs talent that they don't think is easy to market.

    Inside of a dog...it's too dark to read.
  • David_TDavid_T A fashion yes-man is no good to me. Copenhagen, DenmarkRegistered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    He won the Intercontinental Championship once.

    He was not a multiple-time WWEWHC title holder with along and distinguished career at the top like John Cena. Or HHH. Or Randy Orton. Or Steve Austin...

    Or the Rock...

    Ahmed was a walking injury and that's what ruined him, but they were ready to strap the rocket to him. He won the IC title within a year of his debut, he was scheduled to work a World title program with the Undertaker, he was very much the number two face in the company until he ran into kidney trouble.

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  • CuvisTheConquerorCuvisTheConqueror They always say "yee haw" but they never ask "haw yee?" Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    Ditto Bobby Lashley.

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  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
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  • The BetgirlThe Betgirl I'm Molly! Registered User regular
    Kilroy wrote: »
    Turambar wrote: »

    this riff is fucking tasty

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  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
    I'm not buying into this whole narrative that Daniel Bryan's not going to be the top guy. Steve Austin was never supposed to be the guy. Eddie Guerrero was never supposed to be the guy. Believe it or not John Cena was never supposed to be the guy. This shit isn't over by a long shot.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    He won the Intercontinental Championship once.

    He was not a multiple-time WWEWHC title holder with along and distinguished career at the top like John Cena. Or HHH. Or Randy Orton. Or Steve Austin...

    Or the Rock...

    Ahmed was a walking injury and that's what ruined him, but they were ready to strap the rocket to him. He won the IC title within a year of his debut, he was scheduled to work a World title program with the Undertaker, he was very much the number two face in the company until he ran into kidney trouble.

    Yes, Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, a man who is exceptionally charismatic and can command the attention of an entire stadium full of people just by raising his eyebrow and after his career in the WWE has gone on to become a huge star in Hollywood despite being a 7/10 actor. He's also 6 foot 5 and is a huge and muscley guy, even back in the 2000s.

  • CuvisTheConquerorCuvisTheConqueror They always say "yee haw" but they never ask "haw yee?" Registered User regular
    I'm not buying into this whole narrative that Daniel Bryan's not going to be the top guy. Steve Austin was never supposed to be the guy. Eddie Guerrero was never supposed to be the guy. Believe it or not John Cena was never supposed to be the guy. This shit isn't over by a long shot.

    Part of me thinks Vince wonders what would have happened if he had chosen Lex Luger over Bret Hart, and this is his chance to find out.

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  • Donovan PuppyfuckerDonovan Puppyfucker A dagger in the dark is worth a thousand swords in the morningRegistered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    Ditto Bobby Lashley.

    Bobby Lashley, you mean that guy they pushed once and then dropped like a hot shit? Who had far more success in TNA?

  • Green LanternGreen Lantern Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    Ditto Bobby Lashley.

    Bobby Lashley, you mean that guy they pushed once and then dropped like a hot shit? Who had far more success in TNA?

    Wasn't he in a programm with cena before he got injured and then quit on his own ?

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    I'm not buying into this whole narrative that Daniel Bryan's not going to be the top guy. Steve Austin was never supposed to be the guy. Eddie Guerrero was never supposed to be the guy. Believe it or not John Cena was never supposed to be the guy. This shit isn't over by a long shot.

    You'll always have Mania 30

  • KilroyKilroy timaeusTestified Registered User regular
    I can't take much solace from 'mania 30, because in the back of my mind I think "immediately after this they put him in that terrible feud with kane"

  • HawkstoneHawkstone Registered User regular
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    Ditto Bobby Lashley.

    Bobby Lashley, you mean that guy they pushed once and then dropped like a hot shit? Who had far more success in TNA?

    Wasn't he in a programm with cena before he got injured and then quit on his own ?

    Yeah...he quit while at the top and wanted to do MMA...I apparently didn't realize he wasn't as legit as Lesnar. See also: the future of CM Punk.

    Inside of a dog...it's too dark to read.
  • PwnanObrienPwnanObrien He's right, life sucks. Registered User regular
  • Psychotic OnePsychotic One The Lord of No Pants Parts UnknownRegistered User regular
    Turambar wrote: »
    wirehead26 wrote: »
    You know I just realized something, what does Bray do after Mania? Assuming he beats Taker and becomes the official new demonic character of WWE where does he go then? Does he get a title run this year?
    If Bray beats Taker and Reigns beats the guy who beat Taker, they have a thing going right away

    I think that could be an angle down the line. But I think first what Bray needs to do once he beats Taker is just destroy someone. Just a one sided beat down. Like someone lower card gets in his way and he just breaks them and sends them to the injured reserve list. Bray gets drunk on the power of the urn and the love of Sister Abigail.

    Then bring in the avenging knight to face off with the new dark lord.

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    Hawkstone wrote: »
    David_T wrote: »
    I've heard Ahmed Johnson described in many ways, but "having three times ridiculous amounts of charisma and presence" is a new one even for me.

    Ditto Bobby Lashley.

    Bobby Lashley, you mean that guy they pushed once and then dropped like a hot shit? Who had far more success in TNA?

    Wasn't he in a programm with cena before he got injured and then quit on his own ?

    Yeah...he quit while at the top and wanted to do MMA...I apparently didn't realize he wasn't as legit as Lesnar. See also: the future of CM Punk.

    Bellator's the TNA of MMA

  • crwthcrwth THAT'S IT Registered User regular
    MrDapper wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    @Ken O @MrDapper have either of you been to an nxt house show? if yes, how was it?

    They are a lot of fun! I've even convinced some non-wrestling fans to come with me each month. It's also a great place to go if you want to see Ty Dillinger have a new gimmick literally every time he comes out.

    yeah im getting a coworker to go with me. it's like 15 minutes away from my house so im stoked.

    how long before the show are the meet n greets?

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  • Alistair HuttonAlistair Hutton Dr EdinburghRegistered User regular
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  • Ms DapperMs Dapper Yuri Librarian Registered User regular
    crwth wrote: »
    MrDapper wrote: »
    crwth wrote: »
    @Ken O @MrDapper have either of you been to an nxt house show? if yes, how was it?

    They are a lot of fun! I've even convinced some non-wrestling fans to come with me each month. It's also a great place to go if you want to see Ty Dillinger have a new gimmick literally every time he comes out.

    yeah im getting a coworker to go with me. it's like 15 minutes away from my house so im stoked.

    how long before the show are the meet n greets?

    I'm not entirely sure, the one I got into I was last in line and also got lucky to get in that spot. Go at least an hour before. Maybe hour and a half.

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  • CuvisTheConquerorCuvisTheConqueror They always say "yee haw" but they never ask "haw yee?" Registered User regular
    411Mania wrote:
    According to the Wrestling Observer Newsletter, there are no shortages of offers for Samoa Joe. Joe already has several dates booked with ROH, but there is also interest from WWE, AAA, Lucha Underground and New Japan Pro Wrestling. It’s believed that the NJPW deal could see Joe work in NOAH first and then working New Japan. As far as WWE goes, it is said that there are “active talks” between the two sides.

    It's awesome to hear Joe is getting so many great offers. I'm a little surprised that WWE is interested, considering how they passed on AJ Styles, but then, Joe is supposedly pretty friendly with Man-E-H's.

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  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    I know it is easy to throw shade at the management, but I really like Steph and H.

  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    Also I'm not sure if anyone mentioned it since I was out of the loop for a bit, but last night on NXT the announce team REALLY put over Becky Lynch and Bailey and the women's division. Also a commercial for next week's NXT, which features the return of Sami Zayn, was entirely centered around Charlotte/Sasha for the women's nxt title.

    Hopefully that's a positive sign of things to come!

  • THEPAIN73THEPAIN73 Shiny. Real shiny.Registered User regular
    We don't have a problem with NXT.

    It's the main roster that fucks everything up.

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  • nicopernicusnicopernicus Registered User regular
    I really like them too. I don't particularly love the Authority as a group (though that may have more to do with Kane and Big Show) but I freaking love anytime Steph and Triple H talk.

  • MaximumMaximum Registered User regular
    I'm interested on how HHH and Steph are utilized on television once the whole Authority thing crumbles for good. I want them to stick around and heel things up, but not be the primary antagonist every week.

  • Sweeney TomSweeney Tom try The Substance it changed my lifeRegistered User regular
    THEPAIN73 wrote: »
    We don't have a problem with NXT.

    It's the main roster that fucks everything up.

    And the situations everybody's in doesn't help leading up to Mania at least.

    The top 3 matches are Reigns/Brock (one of whom is now hated by the audience, and the other won't be on half the shows between now and then), HHH/Sting (one of whom may physically show up one more time between now and then), and Bray/Taker (one of whom won't be on TV at all between now and then)

  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    THEPAIN73 wrote: »
    We don't have a problem with NXT.

    It's the main roster that fucks everything up.

    But the fact that it would NOT be hard to ADR NXT commentary and cut together a promo between Monday and Wednesday means that maybe they are acknowledging the brand problem and this was the quickest turnaround to address it? That's all I was implying, that it may have been a showing of good faith.

  • stevemarks44stevemarks44 Registered User regular
    Maximum wrote: »
    I'm interested on how HHH and Steph are utilized on television once the whole Authority thing crumbles for good. I want them to stick around and heel things up, but not be the primary antagonist every week.

    There's no problem with booking them, for at least a while, as heels grasping at straws to get one over on everyone.

    I've honestly grown kind of tired of The Authority because they never seem threatened. The most exciting thing they've done in a long time is lament their upheavel, and their desperate attempts to not lose at Survivor Series were pretty dramatic.

    They've grown tiresome constantly coming out and screwing everyone over. They can still be corporate heels cutting promos, but they can do so from a place of weakness and regrouping.

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