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A new Bloodborne threa-ah fuck I died

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    the shadows are one of the worst designed fights

    straight up, any fight that has you going against more than one enemy is going to likely be horseshit in any souls game except maybe phalanx? maybe biggie smalls because the terrain is so abusable

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    TallahasseerielTallahasseeriel Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    I summoned some duders and killed them finally.

    Phew that's done.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the shadows are one of the worst designed fights

    straight up, any fight that has you going against more than one enemy is going to likely be horseshit in any souls game except maybe phalanx? maybe biggie smalls because the terrain is so abusable

    The suggestion that shadows is more bullshit than Laurence and hardy is maybe one of the most baffling things I've ever heard

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    EtiowsaEtiowsa Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the shadows are one of the worst designed fights

    straight up, any fight that has you going against more than one enemy is going to likely be horseshit in any souls game except maybe phalanx? maybe biggie smalls because the terrain is so abusable

    Eh, it's really not that bad. They give you a big ass tombstone to line of sight with, and they don't do too much damage unless you get the snakes. It's probably the easiest multi mob fight imo.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the shadows are one of the worst designed fights

    straight up, any fight that has you going against more than one enemy is going to likely be horseshit in any souls game except maybe phalanx? maybe biggie smalls because the terrain is so abusable

    The suggestion that shadows is more bullshit than Laurence and hardy is maybe one of the most baffling things I've ever heard

    I can use spells on bert and ernie

    bark souls is WAYYY more cheeseable

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    basically I just really hate the shadows and enjoy farming them in mergo's for experience as well as punching pig buttholes

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    the shadows are one of the worst designed fights

    straight up, any fight that has you going against more than one enemy is going to likely be horseshit in any souls game except maybe phalanx? maybe biggie smalls because the terrain is so abusable

    The suggestion that shadows is more bullshit than Laurence and hardy is maybe one of the most baffling things I've ever heard

    I can use spells on bert and ernie

    bark souls is WAYYY more cheeseable

    you can't parry merry and pippin

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    The shadows are not even close to as dumb as Orphan of Kos. If he wants he can stunlock you to death with no recourse.

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    Cilla BlackCilla Black Priscilla!!! Registered User regular
    All of Orphan's attacks are dodge-able but you want to be a lot closer to him than most bosses

    A few of his attacks will straight up just overshoot you if you're up in his face, especially the tracking ones

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Killed Vicar Amelia (easiest fight by a large margin so far) and am in the process of clearing out optional areas and farming blood before I flip the skull switch to nighttime.

    I am pleasantly surprised to find this is the easiest Souls game I've played. Not that it isn't challenging, but I've only come across a couple times where I thought a fight or some other challenge was bullshit. Which is a much better record than the previous 3 games.

    My only complaint about the combat is that parrying is more obtuse in this game. Previously, there were pretty consistent and obvious rules for what attacks could be parried. Whereas in Bloodborne it feels more arbitrary.

    Or maybe I'm just dumb, I dunno.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    Killed Vicar Amelia (easiest fight by a large margin so far) and am in the process of clearing out optional areas and farming blood before I flip the skull switch to nighttime.

    I am pleasantly surprised to find this is the easiest Souls game I've played. Not that it isn't challenging, but I've only come across a couple times where I thought a fight or some other challenge was bullshit. Which is a much better record than the previous 3 games.

    My only complaint about the combat is that parrying is more obtuse in this game. Previously, there were pretty consistent and obvious rules for what attacks could be parried. Whereas in Bloodborne it feels more arbitrary.

    Or maybe I'm just dumb, I dunno.

    Almost everyone feels differently about every aspect of this game including the difficulty. I have put at least 150 hours into Bloodborne and I still don't know if I call it a good game.

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    hunter fights are garbage

    just the absolute worst shit

    most of the rest of the game is very game

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    WybornWyborn GET EQUIPPED Registered User regular
    Pikachu and Snorlax aren't really bullshit, you just have to learn their rhythm

    Honestly they're much worse in the second phase

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    most of the hunters just have a bit too much health

    they'd be much better as quick, brutal, high stakes high lethality fights

    but of course they have to compensate for AI being dumber than players and they erred on the side of too much health and recovery

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Wyborn wrote: »
    Pikachu and Snorlax aren't really bullshit, you just have to learn their rhythm

    Honestly they're much worse in the second phase

    I once watched a let's play of a soul level 1, new game +7 run of dark souls by a very highly skilled player, and Fucko and Bucko caused easily the most deaths of any single fight in the run. The only other thing that caused as much of a stonewall was Manus I think, but he was still beaten in fewer lives than Mork and Mindy. Now this might not translate 1:1 with difficulty under more normal conditions, but it still bears considering.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    I love

    bloodborne

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    BahamutZEROBahamutZERO Registered User regular
    I love

    bloodborne

    's soundtrack

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RzA_Oomra8

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    hunter fights are garbage

    just the absolute worst shit

    most of the rest of the game is very game

    Oh, yeah, that's the second thing

    Fuck hunter fights

    They're hella bad

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    Stilts wrote: »
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    hunter fights are garbage

    just the absolute worst shit

    most of the rest of the game is very game

    Oh, yeah, that's the second thing

    Fuck hunter fights

    They're hella bad

    disagree button

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    ReynoldsReynolds Gone Fishin'Registered User regular
    When it is one on one and they don't respawn, they're pretty great.

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    A lot of the bosses take up too much screen and fuck with the camera, the hunters (especially in Yar'har) are bullshit, and though I know it isn't From's M.O. I wish there was at least a bit of useful instruction at game start.

    I also really wish the chalice dungeons were either way more fun or at least could be accessed globally across your account instead of being character independent. I did a few with one character and have positively zero desire to repeat the lower level ones on any others.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    chalice grind per character is probably the only thing I dislike about the game

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Or at the very least have another way to access the currently gated ritual items

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    PiptheFairPiptheFair Frequently not in boats. Registered User regular
    Reynolds wrote: »
    When it is one on one and they don't respawn, they're pretty great.

    except it's still shit

    infinite stamina, blood vials, bullets and 20 times your hp along with the ability to kill you in 3 hits?

    WAOW SO FUN


    why the hell don't these fuckbois go kill a bunch of demons considering how much stronger than me they are

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    KwoaruKwoaru Confident Smirk Flawless Golden PecsRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    When it is one on one and they don't respawn, they're pretty great.

    except it's still shit

    infinite stamina, blood vials, bullets and 20 times your hp along with the ability to kill you in 3 hits?

    WAOW SO FUN


    why the hell don't these fuckbois go kill a bunch of demons considering how much stronger than me they are

    What do you think they were doing before they went insane

    You shoulda seen that place before they got there

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    HacksawHacksaw J. Duggan Esq. Wrestler at LawRegistered User regular
    PiptheFair wrote: »
    Reynolds wrote: »
    When it is one on one and they don't respawn, they're pretty great.

    except it's still shit

    infinite stamina, blood vials, bullets and 20 times your hp along with the ability to kill you in 3 hits?

    WAOW SO FUN


    why the hell don't these fuckbois go kill a bunch of demons considering how much stronger than me they are

    3 hits?

    Son you need to level up your vitality a bit, methinks.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    I think the 1v2, 1v3 hunter fights and bloody crow can be annoying, but the 1v1 hunter fights are usually interesting

    I actually like the 1v3 in Yahar'gul now, it's a fun challenge (of a lot of kiting backwards, usually)

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    ShenShen Registered User regular
    The hunters mostly just have the one vial (at least Bloody Crow does). Good fun parrying them! There are like 3 in the DLC that do obscene damage though, the Saif one in particular.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    I didn't really consider the beast cutter/boom hammer/beasthunting saif hunters as actual hunter fights. They're hard enemies modeled after hunters but they don't have the same breadth of AI and aggression

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Naphtali wrote: »
    I think the 1v2, 1v3 hunter fights and bloody crow can be annoying, but the 1v1 hunter fights are usually interesting

    I actually like the 1v3 in Yahar'gul now, it's a fun challenge (of a lot of kiting backwards, usually)

    I feel like kiting them is cheesing and I don't like that it's the only practical way to fight them.

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    NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Butters wrote: »
    Naphtali wrote: »
    I think the 1v2, 1v3 hunter fights and bloody crow can be annoying, but the 1v1 hunter fights are usually interesting

    I actually like the 1v3 in Yahar'gul now, it's a fun challenge (of a lot of kiting backwards, usually)

    I feel like kiting them is cheesing and I don't like that it's the only practical way to fight them.

    you can fight all three of them straight up, its hard but doable. I've done it only with the blade of mercy and liberal use of beast roar though.

    edit: this is fucking brilliant
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYr7gbOFqAY

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    StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Entirely cleared out Hemwick Charnel Lane in one go. Everything (except for the multiple executioners and hella dogs) was super easy. Boss fight was downright relaxing.

    Then I finally cleared out Hypogeon Gaol. Having a Ludwig sword at +6 made a huge difference. When I first got there it was a nightmare, and I eventually just decided to run through it to get to Paarl and de-aggro Djura. It was still a bit tough, but being able to take out the Snatchers with two charged R2's made it a whole lot more bearable. Fuck those dogs, though. Fuck them forever.

    So I guess Forgotten Woods is next.

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    I needed anime to post.I needed anime to post. boom Registered User regular
    don't fuck dogs

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    MeldingMelding Registered User regular
    don't fuck dogs

    don't shame kinks.

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    Indie WinterIndie Winter die Krähe Rudi Hurzlmeier (German, b. 1952)Registered User regular
    can dogs give consent

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    Mr FuzzbuttMr Fuzzbutt Registered User regular
    can dogs give consent

    regular dogs no, talking intelligent dogs yes

    general guide:

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    turtleantturtleant Gunpla Dad is the best.Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Multi boss fights are the fucking worst, especially if you don't have access to co op.

    I keep thinking about playing DS2 again to try the DLC, but then I remember I'd have to do all those fricken multi target fights on my own (especially Rune Sentinels) or shell out for Xbox Live again and I stick that sucker back on the shelf.

    Hopefully DS3 has significantly fewer of them.

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    JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    wow i missed out on this complete lunacy

    hunter fights in this game are great. the only one i didnt like is the bloody crow

    much depends on your weapon choice. certain weapons just obliterate hunters completely, and I think this is why they pack so much punch. you're not supposed to grant them an opening

    tl;dr please consider becoming good at the video game

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