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Superhero Thread: Vision is Your New Favorite Superhero
BlankZoe
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Okay I will spruce this up in a Little bit but for now
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Ultron in USA USA USA on Thursday!
Oh yeah
MARK AND SPOILER ANYTHING THAT COULD BE A SPOILER ABOUT AGE OF ULTRON. EVEN IF YOU THINK IT MAY NOT BE. JUST USE THE TAGS, DUMMY.
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Also while catching up my girlfriend (we only have Guardians left to watch), I caught a line in Iron Man 3 where Happy is talking to Pepper and they're discussing replacing Stark Industries' staff with robots.
I went "HA!"
Winter Soldier is still awesome, and I think Iron Man 3 is even better the second time you watch it.
It totally does. It doesn't rise. It has three narrative peaks and is on full neutral in-between those. We were kind of all blinded by RDJ's charisma at the time but now that we're used to his schtick, it really highlights the failings of that movie.
It's still better than Iron Man 2 though.
I really need to rewatch both of these--Iron Man 3 because I don't remember it super well, and Winter Soldier just because it's really, really good.
yeah, I, uh, disagree
2 is a lotta fun
When those cops started hunting down Nick Fury my girlfriend went on full "WHAT IS GOING ON, WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE, WHY IS EVERYBODY A BAD GUY NOW, ARE THOSE REAL COPS, WAIT SO THEY'RE NOT REAL COPS, WHY IS EVERYONE TRYING TO KILL THEM AGAIN" mode.
Also she was legit kinda blown away by the Soldier's identity reveal and it was sort of adorable.
I disagree that the pacing is a problem. It doesn't have the flow we've come to expect from the other Marvel movies, but if you don't go into it expecting that flow, I think its pacing is fine.
There's an Iron Man suit metaphor in this...
That opening confference is amazing
The movie also can't decide if Hammer is a villain or not. He's played up as one for most of it but then he reveals his shit and nobody gets on his ass for ripping off the Iron Man suit and there doesn't seem to be any hard feelings between him and Tony right before the final big action scene. Also the movie can't decide if Vanko is menacing or funny and it looks like they're trying to make him like that for creep effect but it really falls flat.
Also the part where the government is trying to get his patent is unresolved because I guess Rhodey stole one armor and since he's a good guy it's cool and it satisfies the government that now they have one guy with an armor on their payroll even though it was immediately hacked by a bad guy and proved itself a liability, and not only does Tony not do anything to get the armor back but the government decides that having stolen one is good enough and now he doesn't owe them anything anymore.
Finally, all the bad guys fall down in seconds flat and then Vanko shows up in person for a ridiculously short fight for no reason.
Movie's great all up and through the grand prix scene, and even the prison break bit after that. It just seems like they had no idea where to take the plot from there.
Yeah!
OR, make Vanko more competent and give him an actual plan past "show up at grand prix, cut some cars up".
It would also have been a lot more thematically consistent to have Tony's suit be hacked and used for evil and Rhodey show up to save him.
Almost every bolt on that movie should've been tightened and it's super easy to see how they could've done that in almost every case.
The Palladium plot was nonsense and almost all of its significance could've been done if they'd stuck with the alcoholism angle more.
Boom same poisoning plot
Rhodey didn't "steal" the suit. The whole party scene was Tony's way of convincing Rhodes that he needed to take the mantle because Tony thinks he's going to die soon. The scene right after that is Fury and Widow confronting him on how Rhodes couldn't have taken the suit without Tony's say-so.
Vanko's original plan was to make the world turn on Tony and stop seeing him as some kind of savior of world peace and to see him as the selfish individual he is. He succeeded in part because he knew Tony was going to try and be more extravagant in his last days. He wanted Tony's legacy to be shot. He kinda succeeded in that, and if Tony hadn't have pulled through with the third act hail-mary he would have been torn apart in the public opinion.
After that it falls apart when they have Vanko start working for Hammer. Hammer should have gotten the plans for the arc reactor out of Vanko and killed him in prison, letting Hammer be the villain at the end doing everything Vanko did instead.
Maybe that message wouldn't have been so confused if they hadn't stuck a totally gratuitous fight between the two right before then. Because it sure LOOKS like Tony doesn't want Rhodes to take the suit.
Loki no what are you wearing
Also which Loki is that
It's part of the character's history. Like, recovering alcoholic is a huge part of his character and informs a lot about his personality and what drives him as a hero.
It could've been written competently. Superhero flicks are no strangers to blunt metaphors. Some of them work.
The Guardians saved the Galaxy through the power of god damn friendship.
Shapeshifting remember
Spoilers for the comic
Screenwriting don'ts, that is. The directing and acting and production angles are all great.
AoU
That was the point? The point of the fight scene is that Tony wants Rhodes to think it's his idea, not Tony's. The thing that should have cut through any confusion is the scene where they flat out lay out what the previous scenes were about.