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Any suggestions on builds for a PC primarily for audio recording purposes?
*edit* just saw the pc build thread, can not see a delete thread option.
So me and a friend are doing some recording with some of the music we're creating. Our laptops work, but we've thought about building a desktop for the sole purpose of recording. I figure we can skimp pretty much everywhere except ram. Current gen mobo and proc of the lowest speed, or maybe even last gen depending on cost, but we might want a lot of memory. HD space would be the biggest thing I'm guessing.
Any ideas on what I should skimp on and focus on spending the money on? I figure sound card onboard would actually be fine, as we already have a pre-amp that plugs in. So we have external devices for audio interfacing. It's just the pc itself.
*edit* just saw the pc build thread, can not see a delete thread option.
So me and a friend are doing some recording with some of the music we're creating. Our laptops work, but we've thought about building a desktop for the sole purpose of recording. I figure we can skimp pretty much everywhere except ram. Current gen mobo and proc of the lowest speed, or maybe even last gen depending on cost, but we might want a lot of memory. HD space would be the biggest thing I'm guessing.
Any ideas on what I should skimp on and focus on spending the money on? I figure sound card onboard would actually be fine, as we already have a pre-amp that plugs in. So we have external devices for audio interfacing. It's just the pc itself.
If you've got a good-quality mic pre-amp that plugs in, then whatever basic soundcard that has the type of mic input you want should do the trick, and the rest of the p.c. can be a basic model. How many channels of audio do you want to record simultaneously? Are you going to want to do audio production on the recording unit, or is this just for like home recording that you will then take the digital files to a mixing studio or something?
Right now we're doing everything in house. We gave a Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 preamp, which has 6 inputs and 6 outputs. This seems to be able to do everything we've wanted to do so far, although the drums might be difficult.
At most we'really looking at wanting 8 channels Simultaneously. He's been doing all the research into the recording side of things. I'm thinking any bare bones pc would be fine, maybe a nice big HD for only recording files, and a healthy amount of ram, but thinking it probably won't need much processing power.
Sound card is where I'm not sure. Since we have a nice pre-amp, and are running that to the pc, I think even onboard sound would. I assume onboard video will be fine for this.
I don't mind spending some Money on this, but if I don't have too, there's always strings, mics, drumheads, etc... to be bought.
You might find onboard to be a bit noisy for recording. I agree that skimping on CPU will likely work (you don't seem to plan to do any real-time effects), but it might be worth investing in some kind of external recording interface. Both for higher quality than onboard, and possibly to give you a couple different input channels (beyond the stereo line-in), so you can do some multitrack work and still remix after the fact. Maybe some sort of decent quality 4-track input.
As long as you don't intend to do a bunch of post processing, bits and hertz don't matter much there, 16/48 or 24/48 is fine.
We're using a 6 channel pre-amp to plug into before the PC, or did you mean something else?
You want a ADC (audio to digital converter) that's not built into your computer, because a motherboard's 3.5mm microphone input is a crappy $1 chip. Any soundcard, any external USB based ADC, will be a ton better than a motherboard's mic input.
This ADC sits between your computer and your pre-amp.
Ah ok, I understand now. I thought since our preamp would be doing all the real audio work, everything else would just basically be a wire carrying the information. Any suggestions on brands or models to look at? I've only ever built gaming PC's, where it's mainly about finding the right video card for Your budget
I'm over at newegg, and while I haven't looked at parts yet, they have some pretty cheap DIY PC's. All the parts in a box, with a discount, that you put together. I normally like Asus motherboards, but I'm thinking something like this would probably fine, maybe a seperate HD for the OS.
I'm thinkin 8GB of Ram should be fine, although I may look at 16gb.
They have some nice little boxes too, but the RAM seems low in a lot of them.
*Edit* I guess this thread has pretty much served it's purpose and further questions should probably just go in the pc thread. My main question, about if I needed anything special, has been answered.
Generally speaking, for audio or video editing, you want lots of RAM, like 32gb if you can, with a big SSD and a big normal HDD.
The working pattern is to have all the music files related to your current project, on your SSD, and when you are done, move them off onto the HDD.
You'll be generating too many large files to keep them all on the SSD, unless you're rich. But you'll be annoyed at the slowness of the HDD to do all your work there.
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If you've got a good-quality mic pre-amp that plugs in, then whatever basic soundcard that has the type of mic input you want should do the trick, and the rest of the p.c. can be a basic model. How many channels of audio do you want to record simultaneously? Are you going to want to do audio production on the recording unit, or is this just for like home recording that you will then take the digital files to a mixing studio or something?
At most we'really looking at wanting 8 channels Simultaneously. He's been doing all the research into the recording side of things. I'm thinking any bare bones pc would be fine, maybe a nice big HD for only recording files, and a healthy amount of ram, but thinking it probably won't need much processing power.
Sound card is where I'm not sure. Since we have a nice pre-amp, and are running that to the pc, I think even onboard sound would. I assume onboard video will be fine for this.
I don't mind spending some Money on this, but if I don't have too, there's always strings, mics, drumheads, etc... to be bought.
We're using a 6 channel pre-amp to plug into before the PC, or did you mean something else?
This ADC sits between your computer and your pre-amp.
http://us.focusrite.com/usb-audio-interfaces/scarlett-6i6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.2253150
I'm thinkin 8GB of Ram should be fine, although I may look at 16gb.
They have some nice little boxes too, but the RAM seems low in a lot of them.
*Edit* I guess this thread has pretty much served it's purpose and further questions should probably just go in the pc thread. My main question, about if I needed anything special, has been answered.
The working pattern is to have all the music files related to your current project, on your SSD, and when you are done, move them off onto the HDD.
You'll be generating too many large files to keep them all on the SSD, unless you're rich. But you'll be annoyed at the slowness of the HDD to do all your work there.