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Confused about interviewer request

lets_do_lunchlets_do_lunch Registered User new member
Alt, since I know the parties involved can easily see my web presence under my normal handle.

Okay, so this may not be a totally appropriate entry for H/A, but I had an odd situation come up today. I guess I'm technically looking more for opinions than actual advice, but here goes...

So after a couple years of working from home, I recently decided to apply for a job posting a friend relayed on Facebook. Without getting into too much detail, it's a tech company with an international presence, whose US arm is effectively operating like a startup.

Anyhow, they seemed SUPER interested in me; they scheduled a phone interview within two hours after my submitting my resume, and almost immediately solicited some sample work. I just had my in-person interview yesterday, and spent about two hours talking with the person hiring for this position, as well as the GM and a marketing person. We handled most facets of hiring, including salary expectations, benefits rollout, etc, and they let me know they were interviewing one other person for the position.

NOW FOR MY ISSUE

My contact (the person doing the hiring) emailed me this morning, and asked if I could come to lunch with her tomorrow. There is no mention of whether this is an additional interview component. In fact, there is no mention of what this is at all.

My guess is that she will be making a formal offer, or perhaps further negotiating my salary and benefits, but really... I'm totally baffled. Has anyone had an experience with this before? I can't imagine that she wants me to come all the way down for lunch, just to tell me I WON'T be getting an offer -- is this a rational assumption? I would really love to hear people's experiences/opinions with this.


TL;DR What's up with my interviewer asking me to lunch without specifying whether or not I'm getting an offer?

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  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    I'd go for the free food. Seems to me like you've got the upper hand in this situation so you don't need to bring much anxiety with you.

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    Pretty much any time an employer is offering to meet you at a meal place it's either a really good thing (you're hired, promoted) or you are about to be terminated and your boss feels terrible about it.

    Don't assume they are paying for lunch, but go, be appropriately dressed, and don't get drunk.

  • DisruptedCapitalistDisruptedCapitalist I swear! Registered User regular
    Oh, right, yeah, better not assume they're paying (although they damn well better be!)

    "Simple, real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time." -Mustrum Ridcully in Terry Pratchett's Hogfather p. 142 (HarperPrism 1996)
  • lets_do_lunchlets_do_lunch Registered User new member
    Enc wrote: »
    Pretty much any time an employer is offering to meet you at a meal place it's either a really good thing (you're hired, promoted) or you are about to be terminated and your boss feels terrible about it.

    Don't assume they are paying for lunch, but go, be appropriately dressed, and don't get drunk.

    Haha. Will do.

    But this brings up an excellent question: when your interviewer was wearing yoga pants and a Joy Division shirt (which was totally on par with the rest of the team), how does one be "appropriately dressed" for a lunch like this?

  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON Registered User regular
    Sweat pants and a Velvet Underground shirt.

    Really though, if you're a dude just wear jeans and a polo. That's the magic of being a man - you can dress for almost any occasion without even thinking about it. If you're a woman I'll leave the fashion advice to people who have had to actually figure that shit out all their lives.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Khakis/jeans and polo is definitely the way to go there.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    Enc wrote: »
    Pretty much any time an employer is offering to meet you at a meal place it's either a really good thing (you're hired, promoted) or you are about to be terminated and your boss feels terrible about it.

    Don't assume they are paying for lunch, but go, be appropriately dressed, and don't get drunk.

    Haha. Will do.

    But this brings up an excellent question: when your interviewer was wearing yoga pants and a Joy Division shirt (which was totally on par with the rest of the team), how does one be "appropriately dressed" for a lunch like this?
    ...How do you look in yoga pants?

    Kidding. Personally, I'd go with a new pair of nice (IE not faded/torn/etc) jeans or khaki's and either a polo shirt or a button up shirt.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    It should go without mentioning but some of you yungins may not think of it.

    Use good table manners, and order food that isn't going to make a mess.

    No wings, pulled pork sandwiches, crazy ass noodle dishes. Don't chew with your mouth open.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Generally, you follow what the person who's paying for it does.

    If they're ordering a $20 meal, you order a $20 meal.

    If they get the side salad, you get the side salad.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Last thing you want to do is be ordering lobster if they order salad and soup.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    this is normal and do it

    this is a discord of mostly PA people interested in fighting games: https://discord.gg/DZWa97d5rz

    we also talk about other random shit and clown upon each other
  • lets_do_lunchlets_do_lunch Registered User new member
    I'm kind of an old fart, and I've got plenty of professional experience, but I've never had something as vague as this lunch come up before.

    As for the mode of dress, I'm probably going to go pretty casual -- it seemed pretty clear that the previous person to fill this role was too formal for both the office culture, and the customers/clients themselves.

    I hadn't yet considered what to have for lunch, but while I assumed they'd be paying, I would never presume to order an expensive meal.

  • lets_do_lunchlets_do_lunch Registered User new member
    UPDATE: The waters have been considerably un-muddied.

    In arranging the location for lunch, I forwarded my contact a picture of my dog, which we had talked about during the interview (it's a dog-friendly startup incubator, and she loves dogs).

    The last sentence of her last email was essentially: "We all approve of your dog, and hope you can bring her in sometime soon. ;) "

  • Hahnsoo1Hahnsoo1 Make Ready. We Hunt.Registered User, Moderator, Administrator admin
    The bad news: They are actually hiring the dog, not you.

    The good news: Your dog doesn't really need the money and is more than happy to help their human. :D

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  • Kilgore TroutKilgore Trout Registered User regular
    But this brings up an excellent question: when your interviewer was wearing yoga pants and a Joy Division shirt (which was totally on par with the rest of the team), how does one be "appropriately dressed" for a lunch like this?

    The general rule of thumb for something career related is to be just slightly better dressed that the person you are meeting. Jeans and a polo probably covers this especially now that you've got confirmation that the meeting is positive. If you are still nervous, a shirt with buttons tucked into jeans would be about as dressed up as I would go.

  • Draken50Draken50 Registered User regular
    3 words... Hot Dog Costume.

    Actually it sounds like they're running pretty casual. I'd be reflective of personality while still trying to look "nice". Basically your nice relaxed cloths. If those are a button up and jeans, rock it. I'd stay away from the mustard stained old white t-shirt though.

  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    Also be super rude to the waiters/server. Show them you are in charge.

    No, don't do that. Bring money to pay for your meal, dress advice has been solid. Maybe bring some work samples; anything that's easily portable to show at a lunch meeting. Could you show some past work on a tablet?

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