[MTG] Origins Spoilers! Elf Tribal! Goblin Piledriver! Demonic "Vorthos All Star" Pact!

The Betgirl

oh that's adorable

The Betgirl

http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/uncharted-realms/catching-2015-07-22

UR was pretty good this week. I'm gonna be real into this if they keep doing this 'each story follows the last' thing

metaghost

Kelly definitely seems like the best writer (or most well-suited to the task) of the folks that have done UR in the past year or so.

And Jace is totally Tom Cruise of the Multiverse. Probably a Scientologist to boot.

APODionysus

I keep trying to find brews to put Sword of the Animist in.

It's the closest to playable Equipment we've had in a while

Kilroy

got my 4th soulfire grand master in the mail today

just waiting for cfb to process my store credit and I can finally finish this deck

Radius

I would just get a couple now and wait for Landfall, myself.

Otherwise, uh, Blue/Green Great Aurora shenanigans?

Kilroy

I've slowly come to the realization that I like w/r as a color pairing, I just don't like the boros legion

also I like most red spells but don't like most red creatures

APODionysus

The fact that it only fetches basics makes it tough... but it'd probably be broken otherwise.

Like if it could get nonbasics it would probably be great in Hooglands deck. Turns on Thopter Spy Network and ramps you. And control decks want lots of mana. But he's not running a ton of basics.

Radius

Does The Great Aurora effect count tokens?

APODionysus

Yes.

I can't see anyway to make that card playable.

Radius

It's gonna happen, and you can't stop me.

(It probably won't happen)

The Betgirl

Duels Origins will be on steam next wednesday! Here's a game informer review

APODionysus

So I was thinking about Tickles Rally deck and watching his match against Hoogland.

Obviously the Artifact blockers are a huge deal for the deck. So are Counterspells.

So how can the deck improve it's board for those matchups?

Possibilities:

- Purphoros: alt win con. If you can cast him before rallying you don't even nessecarily need to attack and even if you do, Husk/Initimidate schenanigans may not be nessecary. Now Purph is expensive to cast and if you mill him, that sucks cause you can't rally him back (you'll never have devotion and he's not a creature in the yard). But it would get around Thopters.

- that said, Counterspells are a huge issue. Not just from Hooglands deck, but from Control in general. It's possible the deck has enough ways to get Rally out of the yard (jace, Den protector) that it works out. But Id like some more insurance. I noted a 1-of Stratus Dancer in Tickke's board - which seems to be a concession to that possibility, but is hella clunky.

Id like to swap that out for Swan Song. Since it can't block your husks, you don't care about the bird token at all. It's 1 mana too which is easy to leave up when your Rallying. Plus even Milling it over isn't then end of the world. You could theoretically even target it with a Jace Minus THEN cast Rally from the hand and say "ok, you need to burn two counters this turn." Additionally it could be relevant against Abzan Control decks featuring both Black Blockers And removal.

Radius

Purph is a creature in the graveyard.

From a magic judge ""Is Thassa in the graveyard? It's a creature. Is Thassa in your hand? It's a creature. In your shoe? Creature. Did you eat it? Still a creature.""

KalTorak

Yeah, the gods are always creatures everywhere except the battlefield. You can Rally Purph back, though he's a mana more expensive than all the other creatures in the deck.

APODionysus

Well then he'd stand as a decent sideboard option.

Whippy

How do we feel about this

@knob

Kilroy

needs 4th aetherspouts imo

Whippy

Cut something

I needed anime to post.

the thing about aetherspouts is you only have to cast one aetherspouts before your opponent has to play around it forever

Kilroy

I wasn't making a serious suggestion

I have no idea how to play turbofog

I just like aetherspouts a whole bunch

Knob

my gut says more negate because we can't beat an ugin and dromoka's sucks

but yeah, i dunno what to cut. with the revealing wind making 12 fogs, is 3 days undoing overkill?

spitballing. gonna proxy that out and play it against my homeboy tonight

Whippy

The only justification I had for going down to 2 negate was ugin costs 8 and you're drawing a lot of cards so hope you hit one before they hit 8 mana. Dromoka's command sucks but thankfully it's not targeted removal so hopefully you'll have one of the redundant card draw enchantments to sacrifice so your only wincon, tutelage, doesn't get hit. And after sideboard you can move in more counterspells depending on your opponent.

I love turbofog, you guys. Like too much.

Whippy

Oh and @knob day's undoing at 3 sounds appropriate in my head but is something I can absolutely see changing after testing. One thing people don't realize about decks like this is you draw a lot of cards so even if you only have one or two of something you'll still see it more often than not.

The Betgirl

i lost a 'win and prizes' match because i forgot to float my mana before scapeshifting bc i am a dummy

Knob

how the fuck do i not own a single winds of qal sisma

Knob

Whippy wrote: »

Oh and @knob day's undoing at 3 sounds appropriate in my head but is something I can absolutely see changing after testing. One thing people don't realize about decks like this is you draw a lot of cards so even if you only have one or two of something you'll still see it more often than not.

this is exactly where i was going. i got it built and am doing some goldfishing

and we go through cards FUCKING FAST

given that days undoing is 'break glass in case of emergency', i can absolutely see only running 2.

APODionysus

Negates seem fine for now, but might be better in the board.

Depends on your meta, I guess.

Really just a placeholder for the Hedron Crab reprint

Knob

Looting decisions are initially harder than i thought they'd be. i was prioritizing pitching excess land, but i really kind of underestimated how much you comfortably want on the table.

KalTorak

Knob wrote: »

how the fuck do i not own a single winds of qal sisma

maybe you never drafted any because you're a smart person

Knob

i only did 2 FRF drafts

come to think of it, i hardly bought any either

well, there you go

APODionysus

I do agree with cutting some number of Days Undoing from the original list. Frankly I do want to try the three mana Fog in some number. It's not ideal, but I think it can work.

initiatefailure

Did any of those matches end up on camera? I need to see how this plays

The Betgirl

I think round 5 featured turbo fog

nightmarenny

The Betgirl wrote: »

I think round 5 featured turbo fog

Also the last round of day 1. 9 I think?

Knob

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9ncjs15-_I

Knob

since it's gonna come up, what's the proper way to resolve multiple monastery siege triggers? draw two, discard one, then draw one discard one? can i arrange dictate triggers ahead of them, or do seige triggers take priority since they specify the beginning of the draw step?

Kharnor

You draw your card for the turn first, then all your triggers go on the stack in the order of your choosing.

So yes you can draw off your dictates before your sieges, and you will have to discard from your first siege trigger before drawing from the second.

Knob

also, that match is amazing

"am i dead? it's unclear. who's winning? we don't know"

Kharnor

Haha yes I have the biggest grin on my face watching this