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[Camp Comic] Friday, September 18, 2015 - Lash Out
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[Camp Comic] Friday, September 18, 2015 - Lash Out
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You've got to respect how ingenious and creative they are with their beauty techniques. Even if they're occasionally a bit dangerous.
Marta and Kennedy, well, I think everyone knows someone like that.
The name I've had in my head for her has been Gertrude. I've never met a Gertrude before, but for some reason when I saw her, I thought she looked like a Gertie.
I think if anyone has "dealt" with people like this, they aren't seeing the full story. It's all about experience. For a lot of unpopular kids, the survival strategy they learn in school is "don't trust anyone". It's simple really, if every single day you get "invited" to some weird thing by a bunch of smiling "other" kids you don't even know (because again, you're unpopular, so you really don't know any of these people) and 9 times out of 10, it turns out their only motive was to humiliate you in some way, like asking you misleading or weird questions just so they can laugh at your answers, well it turns out you aren't going to trust smiling "friendliness" 10 times out of 10. Hence, someone you've never even talked to comes up and asks you your opinion on something weird, your response is going to be a defensive "that sound dumb" one.
So yeah why ARE they always so mean?
http://campcomic.com/comic/friendly-warning
Taking the middle in tic-tac-toe isn't actually the best play. Player 1 X will want to go for a corner. Then if Player 2 O plays anywhere but the center, it's a guaranteed win. If O plays center, it'll be a draw.
That's indeed a unique way to save something for posterity!
Starting in the middle; O has only two choices, corner or not-corner. If not-corner, X can force a win by playing any space that is not directly opposite the O. If Corner, X should play the opposite corner and force O into another choice. Of the (effectively) three choices two can result in X win, but if we're being honest, only 2 of those choices are remotely desirable to O; adjacent to his existing corner, or another corner. The corner is the only way for O to force a draw, either of the other two moves X will win.
X wins in 75-83% of all of O's "choices"
Starting on a corner; of O's effective 5 choices (there are 8 spaces available, but three are just a mirror of the other side), X can force a win on on any but an O in the middle. In the event of an O in the middle, it might be salvaged by placing the second X on the corner opposite the first one. In this situation, if O places on a remaining corner, X wins.
X wins in 90% of O's "choices" (91.66% if you don't agree that the mirroring reduces the effective choices)
Staring on a side; 2/5 (4/8) of O's responses allow X to force a win (the far corners, and the sides diagonally adjacent to the X). 2/5 (2/8) of O's responses will result in the best option being draw (The middle and the side opposite the starting X). The remaining 1/5 (2/8) is somewhat interesting; If O responds to the side start by going in the corner next to the X, X can either force a draw, or try for a win by placing the X in the other corner next to his starting side.
In this scenario; if O follows up by placing adjacent to his O in the corner, X can force a win, but if O places in any of the remaining corners O can force a win.
X wins in 40% (50%) of O's choices. There is an additional 6.66% (8.25%) chance of a win based on O's choice, at the cost of an equal 6.66% (8.25%) chance of loss. It is probably preferable to force a draw than risk the loss, however.
And as I'm sure we're all aware, if both players know what they are doing, the only outcome is draw, unless someone makes a mistake.
While that may be true, I don't think it applies here. This isn't the only time we've seen Marta and Kennedy being jerks. They were the ones who forced Seventeen out of her bunk by telling her that bears had moved into it. They were the ones who made a game out of comparing their fellow campers' looks to animals. They were the ones who told Lucy that Anne and Lori probably didn't actually like her because she wasn't very cool or smart and her pants are weird. Most likely, Marta and Kennedy have low self-esteem so they put down everyone else to make themselves feel better. They may have been bullied before, but at Camp Weedonwantcha, they are bullies and they deserved to be told off.
http://campcomic.com/comic/love-bug
http://campcomic.com/comic/cumulonumbskulls
http://campcomic.com/comic/friendly-warning
I'm in love with the flower eyelashes. That's a very cute design. Though I wonder how they get them to stick. Spit?
In the case of flowers like hollyhocks, the petals actually are sticky on the inside if you peel the petal skins apart a little. I used to make myself stick on earrings and outfit embellishments all the time!
That sounds really cool. When I was young my mom showed me how to braid flowers together to make things, but I never had the manual dexterity to do it right. It's so neat what you can do with nature with the right skills.
What did Anne/Lori say that was mean?
I completely understand what Dark Jaguar means though. Once you're bullied so much, your immediate reaction to any kind of kindness, "why don't you join us?" Is why? What trick are you playing on me? Why should I trust you? I no longer listen to that voice and try to treat everyone as I would want to be treated, but at that age if Kennedy and Marta were bullied before going to camp, it makes sense they wouldn't trust the offer and immediately go on the offensive.
Kennedy and Marta may have been bullies before or maybe they became bullies after they arrived. They have interesting body features like the animal kids do, so maybe Kennedy was made fun of her overbite, her freckles, etc. before she arrived at camp. Once she arrived at camp for the most part the kids formed their own cliques. Maybe Lori and Anne remind them of their former bullies. Maybe Kennedy and Marta really do want to be friends with them, but are scared it's a trick and their offensive response are just to stave off embarrassment.
Maybe over time former friend Lucy will bridge between the groups. Show Kennedy and Marta that they do want to be friends. And Lori and Anne will show them that you don't have to be mean to be popular.
And that's my far too long insomnia-inspired essay speculation.
Blackie62, I have a hard time believing that's true. In my past experience at least, being "popular" just meant you played "the game" better than anyone else, and anyone deviating from it deserves what they get. More to the point though, I've heard the argument made that school "teachers you social skills by peer interaction". I can understand the argument, but in my case I literally had to unlearn every last social "rule" I picked up in school once I entered the adult world. I learned far more talking and interacting with teachers (and kids out in the real world, and heck even online). I compare the social skills learned in school with the social skills learned in prison, in that they're less rules to become a decent person and more rules to survive.
Briguy, if that IS where this story is heading (a background on how victims in one setting became the perpetrators in the next), then that'll make a great story.
http://mathwithbaddrawings.com/2013/06/16/ultimate-tic-tac-toe/
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