HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
The fact that Rubio is, at this point, looking like the eventual compromise nominee is just laughably pathetic. The Republican party's presidental ambitions are doomed.
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HacksawJ. Duggan Esq.Wrestler at LawRegistered Userregular
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That being said, their local and state-level odds are greater than ever, sadly.
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I mean, we knew from the beginning that the GOP wasn't ever going to bring a worthwhile candidate to the table
they've been nothing but clownshoes since 2012
Romney was the last gasp of the party
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The only way they'll change up their game plan is if they start losing local elections which LOL
Went looking, thought it was a recent thing, but it may have been back from November? The tweet which links to an article about it, the article doesn't exist, so maybe it's a photoshop which is still making the rounds.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
That guy is voting for a republican no matter what. Non-college educated non-union workers don't vote for democrats.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
That guy is voting for a republican no matter what. Non-college educated non-union workers don't vote for democrats.
The bigger thing is that Don wants to turn back the clock, to when he knew he had a secure place in society. The problem is, we can't, because everything has shifted. We know now that Don's security was, in many ways, built on making other groups insecure, and thus we can't go back without affecting those groups negatively.
Old white guys only think they have it bad. Hillary isn't validating that kind of privilege the way Republicans are, and I like that about her.
Besides, pandering exclusively to old white guys is why the Republican Party is mired in stagnation and will only become more and more marginalized. Demographics are changing, and the smart move isn't to make inroads with the group that will only historically have been the dominant voting bloc.
The way things are going this election on the right side of the aisle, Republicans won't be able to count on anything but the angry white vote for a generation, and even then only if they completely change the way they do things, which, hahaha, I laugh, it is a funny joke.
But this year Chanterculture found its true hero, who makes it plain that what we’re seeing is a genuine movement: the current master of American resentment, Donald Trump. Everywhere you look on “politically incorrect” subforums and random chans, he looms. Beneath literally every page on 8chan lurks Trump’s face, which, as Elspeth Reeve put it wonderfully, is “very good to look at.” It is the avatar of Chanterculture. A feverish industry of meme-making has grown up around its contours. It has even, at times, subsumed Pepe.
Trump performs for the Chanterculture a very similar function to the one he does for his political supporters: giving loud public voice to culturally unsafe (racist, xenophobic, hateful, choose your adjective) sentiments. He serves less as a real politician with policies and strategy than as the protagonist in a counter-narrative of American culture that sees the forces of modern identity-based liberalism on the verge of genuine acceptance and, it fears, domination. The difference on the internet is, Trump doesn’t need to say anything at all — the creators of the new Chanterculture will say it for him.
In a private group called “Can’t Stump Trump” on the mobile chat service Kik, you’ll find teenagers — between trading weightlifting tips, preferences in female body type, and racist memes — heaping praise on the frontrunner in the Republican presidential race. They claim to support him because he is against “immigration from culturally incompatible ethnic groups,” because “he doesn’t support political correctness,” because “[h]e’s not a good candidate for people who care about others, which I don’t. No lives matter.”
Hey, is part of the youth vote! And Trump courted that vote, he only had to publish some memes on his Twitter and BAM! Anybody that says bad things about Trump on the Internet gets swarmed. See: The comments section of that article.
Which is part of his strategy, peel off votes from demographics that either wouldn't usually vote or vote for Democrats. His jobs policy is basically about trying to get union votes, which is why he's all for the Keystone pipeline. And there's his approach to the African-American churches, that has yielded SOME results:
There's a reason that Sanders is the first one that has managed to make something stick, he saw Trump trying to peel off votes that no regular Republican would even try to get and nailed him. Which shows an actual political insight, too bad that he doesn't seem to actually want to win this thing as much as his supporters.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
If someone is voting for Trump it'd be a fool's game for Hillary to win them over, that's not going to happen. There may be a higher chance of Bernie doing it, but that's slim as well, because y'know socialist.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
If someone is voting for Trump it'd be a fool's game for Hillary to win them over, that's not going to happen. There may be a higher chance of Bernie doing it, but that's slim as well, because y'know socialist.
I dunno. It's a loud minority, but the minority that exists as pure anti-establishment supporters could definitely swing for Bernie or Trump; you can find these people on the same sites that are super pro-Bernie now but were super pro-Ron Paul a few years ago.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
If someone is voting for Trump it'd be a fool's game for Hillary to win them over, that's not going to happen. There may be a higher chance of Bernie doing it, but that's slim as well, because y'know socialist.
I dunno. It's a loud minority, but the minority that exists as pure anti-establishment supporters could definitely swing for Bernie or Trump; you can find these people on the same sites that are super pro-Bernie now but were super pro-Ron Paul a few years ago.
The anti-establishment supporters only have being against the status quo in common. Trump supporters would hate what Bernie would do when elected, and vice versa. Comparing them to the Paul's fan base isn't encouraging either, the Paul's are irrelevant on the national stage.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
If someone is voting for Trump it'd be a fool's game for Hillary to win them over, that's not going to happen. There may be a higher chance of Bernie doing it, but that's slim as well, because y'know socialist.
I dunno. It's a loud minority, but the minority that exists as pure anti-establishment supporters could definitely swing for Bernie or Trump; you can find these people on the same sites that are super pro-Bernie now but were super pro-Ron Paul a few years ago.
The anti-establishment supporters only have being against the status quo in common. Trump supporters would hate what Bernie would do when elected, and vice versa. Comparing them to the Paul's fan base isn't encouraging either, the Paul's are irrelevant on the national stage.
I'm not saying either of these things are encouraging or that fans of one or the other would like their policy positions. I am just stating an observation that there is a loud but present minority who are almost single issue voters on "burn it down," for whom outsider status is more important than policy and for whom peak derp is something to be actively worked towards. These voters may not even have serious policy beliefs outside of "politics is corrupt and hurting Me/people like Me/America." If you want a demonstration of this, go to r/politics at some point and let the awful fill you up.
Again, I don't believe this loud minority is really an important factor in elections, but they certainly do exist and tend to be, if nothing else, very motivated. If Bernie can get these people motivated for him rather than Trump, more power to him.
I don't think he's saying that and I don't think anybody agrees with that statement. I think what he's saying is that letting Trump go unchallenged on his particular brand of rhetoric is a good way to let him walk to the White House, since angry-but-awful still gets votes.
Those "angry-but-awful" people have perfectly legitimate complaints and out of the two Democratic candidates the only one addressing their plight is Sanders. I don't see Hillary being successful with challenging Trump on this. I see her saying "no, everything's great" and then whipping out some showpiece mixed-race first-generation immigrant family that owns a startup as an example of the American Dream succeeding. That won't work; everyone knows that's b.s. The American Dream isn't working for you, it's not working for me, and it's definitely not working for Don, the 50 year-old white guy with a high school education whose job was shipped off to Red China when the plant closed. He's voting Trump this election.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
If someone is voting for Trump it'd be a fool's game for Hillary to win them over, that's not going to happen. There may be a higher chance of Bernie doing it, but that's slim as well, because y'know socialist.
I dunno. It's a loud minority, but the minority that exists as pure anti-establishment supporters could definitely swing for Bernie or Trump; you can find these people on the same sites that are super pro-Bernie now but were super pro-Ron Paul a few years ago.
The anti-establishment supporters only have being against the status quo in common. Trump supporters would hate what Bernie would do when elected, and vice versa. Comparing them to the Paul's fan base isn't encouraging either, the Paul's are irrelevant on the national stage.
I'm not saying either of these things are encouraging or that fans of one or the other would like their policy positions. I am just stating an observation that there is a loud but present minority who are almost single issue voters on "burn it down," for whom outsider status is more important than policy and for whom peak derp is something to be actively worked towards. These voters may not even have serious policy beliefs outside of "politics is corrupt and hurting Me/people like Me/America." If you want a demonstration of this, go to r/politics at some point and let the awful fill you up.
Again, I don't believe this loud minority is really an important factor in elections, but they certainly do exist and tend to be, if nothing else, very motivated. If Bernie can get these people motivated for him rather than Trump, more power to him.
So Jeb apparently challenged Donald Trump to a one on one debate yesterday? I don't know why he'd do this unless he just woke up thinking "You know what, I need to give Donald Trump another opportunity to smack me around and joke about my crashing poll numbers and irrelevancy."
I mean, why would Trump even bother Jeb? Why would he even bother?
So Jeb apparently challenged Donald Trump to a one on one debate yesterday? I don't know why he'd do this unless he just woke up thinking "You know what, I need to give Donald Trump another opportunity to smack me around and joke about my crashing poll numbers and irrelevancy."
I mean, why would Trump even bother Jeb? Why would he even bother?
Because he doesn't expect to lose and can gain from smacking around a pathetic person?
It would play better with his supporters to mock Jebs request because there's no point in debating someone so politically irrelevant. It would be a waste of everyones time, and that's exactly the kind of thing his people would want to hear.
So Jeb apparently challenged Donald Trump to a one on one debate yesterday? I don't know why he'd do this unless he just woke up thinking "You know what, I need to give Donald Trump another opportunity to smack me around and joke about my crashing poll numbers and irrelevancy."
I mean, why would Trump even bother Jeb? Why would he even bother?
Jeb! is very desperate, and Trump doesn't need to go to a debate to make fun of Jeb!:
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...please tell me that's a photoshop.
Never change, ¿Jeb?.
This is like watching that ASPCA commerical. In the arms of an angel far away from here...
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Went looking, thought it was a recent thing, but it may have been back from November? The tweet which links to an article about it, the article doesn't exist, so maybe it's a photoshop which is still making the rounds.
Meh, amusing. Gonna leave the post up.
Nevermind, he fully deserves what he's getting. And much more.
How is Hillary going to win Don over from the Trump camp, or will she write Don off and focus in on the non-white vote?
That guy is voting for a republican no matter what. Non-college educated non-union workers don't vote for democrats.
The bigger thing is that Don wants to turn back the clock, to when he knew he had a secure place in society. The problem is, we can't, because everything has shifted. We know now that Don's security was, in many ways, built on making other groups insecure, and thus we can't go back without affecting those groups negatively.
Besides, pandering exclusively to old white guys is why the Republican Party is mired in stagnation and will only become more and more marginalized. Demographics are changing, and the smart move isn't to make inroads with the group that will only historically have been the dominant voting bloc.
The way things are going this election on the right side of the aisle, Republicans won't be able to count on anything but the angry white vote for a generation, and even then only if they completely change the way they do things, which, hahaha, I laugh, it is a funny joke.
Which is inaccurate. He's bringing his own brand of awfulness:
Hey, is part of the youth vote! And Trump courted that vote, he only had to publish some memes on his Twitter and BAM! Anybody that says bad things about Trump on the Internet gets swarmed. See: The comments section of that article.
Which is part of his strategy, peel off votes from demographics that either wouldn't usually vote or vote for Democrats. His jobs policy is basically about trying to get union votes, which is why he's all for the Keystone pipeline. And there's his approach to the African-American churches, that has yielded SOME results:
There's a reason that Sanders is the first one that has managed to make something stick, he saw Trump trying to peel off votes that no regular Republican would even try to get and nailed him. Which shows an actual political insight, too bad that he doesn't seem to actually want to win this thing as much as his supporters.
If someone is voting for Trump it'd be a fool's game for Hillary to win them over, that's not going to happen. There may be a higher chance of Bernie doing it, but that's slim as well, because y'know socialist.
I dunno. It's a loud minority, but the minority that exists as pure anti-establishment supporters could definitely swing for Bernie or Trump; you can find these people on the same sites that are super pro-Bernie now but were super pro-Ron Paul a few years ago.
The anti-establishment supporters only have being against the status quo in common. Trump supporters would hate what Bernie would do when elected, and vice versa. Comparing them to the Paul's fan base isn't encouraging either, the Paul's are irrelevant on the national stage.
I'm not saying either of these things are encouraging or that fans of one or the other would like their policy positions. I am just stating an observation that there is a loud but present minority who are almost single issue voters on "burn it down," for whom outsider status is more important than policy and for whom peak derp is something to be actively worked towards. These voters may not even have serious policy beliefs outside of "politics is corrupt and hurting Me/people like Me/America." If you want a demonstration of this, go to r/politics at some point and let the awful fill you up.
Again, I don't believe this loud minority is really an important factor in elections, but they certainly do exist and tend to be, if nothing else, very motivated. If Bernie can get these people motivated for him rather than Trump, more power to him.
Ok, that makes sense.
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Which was briefly very confusing, on that tweet.
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Just an argument that Shivahn is right and Donald is expressing sorry for those men who can not hire him for sex.
He's sure it would be great. Very classy, also huge.
I mean, why would Trump even bother Jeb? Why would he even bother?
Because he doesn't expect to lose and can gain from smacking around a pathetic person?
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1OLcAGbXhWIVcl5IziVpG0eKFJS3xi_Sac9kYMkRFvD8/edit?usp=sharing
I laughed.
Jeb! is very desperate, and Trump doesn't need to go to a debate to make fun of Jeb!: