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Penny Arcade - Comic - Everything Old Is New Again
The smile at the end is priceless. Like he's telling himself, "yeah, that's what happened. It was an awesome puzzle escape room, nothing bad, nothing bad at all... (now smile.)"
Perfect. I finished a hard days work, logged on, let my eyes roll over those three perfect Windows into the souls of immortal gods of jest and pain, and I become happiness. I will forever subscribe, here's my wallet, here's my PIN number, take it all. I am home.
I've never said this about a PA comic before but man, they phoned it in on this one like they didn't even care.
You don't know anything about making comics son.
I mean, that's fine but neither character moves in three panels. There's one panel of dialog. The backgrounds are solid colours. I feel pretty comfortable making an observation of my opinion, regardless of my lack of knowledge regarding the intricacies of comic-making.
I understand that not every comic out of a million is going to be groundbreaking but it's not an unreasonable conclusion that this one wasn't a gem.
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing."
I've never said this about a PA comic before but man, they phoned it in on this one like they didn't even care.
You don't know anything about making comics son.
I mean, that's fine but neither character moves in three panels. There's one panel of dialog. The backgrounds are solid colours. I feel pretty comfortable making an observation of my opinion, regardless of my lack of knowledge regarding the intricacies of comic-making.
I understand that not every comic out of a million is going to be groundbreaking but it's not an unreasonable conclusion that this one wasn't a gem.
But.. the joke works best in that environment. More dialogue and movement would oversell it.
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I've never said this about a PA comic before but man, they phoned it in on this one like they didn't even care.
You don't know anything about making comics son.
PA has phoned it in on comics before, but this was not them doing it. This comic was very well executed and thoughtful, as well as small details on each that require a lot of time.
Jew Lemon was kinda phoned in. The joke kinda meh, and only 2 panels were really drawn (top and bottom), and then the other 4 were just changes to roughly 5% of the the other panels. It was worth a chuckle but it was phoned in.
I mean, okay, I get it. Other people think the comic is better than I do. I just don't feel like the joke or the comic was good. It was a simple matter of opinion.
"Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing."
I mean, okay, I get it. Other people think the comic is better than I do. I just don't feel like the joke or the comic was good. It was a simple matter of opinion.
You didn't say the comic was bad though. Do that all you want. You said that the comic was lazy. It isn't lazy. Everything in it is designed to create a particular effect as efficiently as possible.
I mean, okay, I get it. Other people think the comic is better than I do. I just don't feel like the joke or the comic was good. It was a simple matter of opinion.
You didn't say the comic was bad though. Do that all you want. You said that the comic was lazy. It isn't lazy. Everything in it is designed to create a particular effect as efficiently as possible.
I didn't say it was lazy, either, though I implied it. My intention in saying that it was "phoned in like they didn't even care" was that the "particular effect" that everything in it was designed for was, in my opinion, lackluster and was far below the usual quality of the other comics. The joke is, I think, not great. The comic is, I think, not great and definitely below their usual quality of work. If my personal opinion of an assessment is that the comic produced is significantly below the usual quality (both in design and in joke) when I know that they could have made a (subjectively) better one, that fits my criteria for "phoning it in". Just because the comic was designed to create the effect of that joke does not mean that either the joke or the comic isn't below what I expected of it.
I'm genuinely not trying to argue this. It was an offhand comment about me not thinking they "gave 110%" on this joke. Seriously, not worth arguing about.
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"Building the future and keeping the past alive are one in the same thing."
I mean, okay, I get it. Other people think the comic is better than I do. I just don't feel like the joke or the comic was good. It was a simple matter of opinion.
You didn't say the comic was bad though. Do that all you want. You said that the comic was lazy. It isn't lazy. Everything in it is designed to create a particular effect as efficiently as possible.
I didn't say it was lazy, either, though I implied it. My intention in saying that it was "phoned in like they didn't even care" was that the "particular effect" that everything in it was designed for was, in my opinion, lackluster and was far below the usual quality of the other comics. The joke is, I think, not great. The comic is, I think, not great and definitely below their usual quality of work. If my personal opinion of an assessment is that the comic produced is significantly below the usual quality (both in design and in joke) when I know that they could have made a (subjectively) better one, that fits my criteria for "phoning it in". Just because the comic was designed to create the effect of that joke does not mean that either the joke or the comic isn't below what I expected of it.
I'm genuinely not trying to argue this. It was an offhand comment about me not thinking they "gave 110%" on this joke. Seriously, not worth arguing about.
'Not trying to argue' doesn't mean 'keep arguing'.
I'm really loving the new exaggerated art style. Great job Mike! You've really pushed your art to super interesting places and it's fantastic to see how far you've evolved over the years. I wish I had a quarter of your talent.
'Not trying to argue' doesn't mean 'keep arguing'.
That's fair. I think I should've said something more along the lines of, "I don't see why it's such an issue that I didn't like the comic."
That's the thing, it's not that you didn't like the comic, anybody's seriously free to not like it, it's just that accusing them of 'phoning it in' and describing why you believe that to be the case, it's stating a lot more than just that it didn't meet your personal tastes. I'm not trying to have a go at you, we cool, I'm just trying to explain what happened.
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Not maybe.
That's 100% what it is.
You don't know anything about making comics son.
I mean, that's fine but neither character moves in three panels. There's one panel of dialog. The backgrounds are solid colours. I feel pretty comfortable making an observation of my opinion, regardless of my lack of knowledge regarding the intricacies of comic-making.
I understand that not every comic out of a million is going to be groundbreaking but it's not an unreasonable conclusion that this one wasn't a gem.
But.. the joke works best in that environment. More dialogue and movement would oversell it.
Jew Lemon was kinda phoned in. The joke kinda meh, and only 2 panels were really drawn (top and bottom), and then the other 4 were just changes to roughly 5% of the the other panels. It was worth a chuckle but it was phoned in.
You didn't say the comic was bad though. Do that all you want. You said that the comic was lazy. It isn't lazy. Everything in it is designed to create a particular effect as efficiently as possible.
I didn't say it was lazy, either, though I implied it. My intention in saying that it was "phoned in like they didn't even care" was that the "particular effect" that everything in it was designed for was, in my opinion, lackluster and was far below the usual quality of the other comics. The joke is, I think, not great. The comic is, I think, not great and definitely below their usual quality of work. If my personal opinion of an assessment is that the comic produced is significantly below the usual quality (both in design and in joke) when I know that they could have made a (subjectively) better one, that fits my criteria for "phoning it in". Just because the comic was designed to create the effect of that joke does not mean that either the joke or the comic isn't below what I expected of it.
I'm genuinely not trying to argue this. It was an offhand comment about me not thinking they "gave 110%" on this joke. Seriously, not worth arguing about.
'Not trying to argue' doesn't mean 'keep arguing'.
That's fair. I think I should've said something more along the lines of, "I don't see why it's such an issue that I didn't like the comic."
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That's the thing, it's not that you didn't like the comic, anybody's seriously free to not like it, it's just that accusing them of 'phoning it in' and describing why you believe that to be the case, it's stating a lot more than just that it didn't meet your personal tastes. I'm not trying to have a go at you, we cool, I'm just trying to explain what happened.
and http://art.penny-arcade.com/photos/i-KHKhcZn/0/1050x10000/i-KHKhcZn-1050x10000.jpg
how much this is actually reflective of Mike and Jerry themselves, idk
I don't know; maybe it's just Tycho's that feel over the top.