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I'm a wreck.

HorizonShiftHorizonShift Seattle, WARegistered User regular
edited February 2016 in Help / Advice Forum
I'm a twenty-something veteran going to school and I've been barely functioning for as long as I can remember. So, life story. I was apathetic in school and got poor grades, but I did very well in art and english. My dad frequently called me a retard or a queer and generally treated me like shit until my parents got divorced. Needless to say, I had a shitty self-esteem. Art was the only thing I was any good at, so I naively made the decision to go to art school then promptly dropped out once the reality of the cost became apparent. I joined the Navy, and my performance was basically the same. I just felt listless and shitty all the time. I didn't take care of myself, I had no social life, I made impulsive purchases, and I did the bare minimum at work. I never got into any serious trouble, but I won't pretend that I was valuable to anyone. I was easily distracted and I spent most of my time daydreaming; at 25 I was diagnosed with ADHD and put on stimulants.

The medication kind of helped, but it didn't really stop the daydreaming and by the evening I'd always feel strung out. The VA won't cover my treatment because it wasn't caused by the service so I don't really have access to any mental health care. Now I'm going to school full-time while living with my boyfriend. I should feel good, but I don't. I'm still daydreaming all the time and I'm completely apathetic about school. I'm getting decent grades, but I can feel myself slipping. I play video games for maybe an hour at a time before I realize that I'm not actually having fun. I rarely draw or paint anymore. I start up hobbies and quickly abandon them. I walk to school every day and see homeless people and meth heads on almost every block. I watch the news and see audiences cheer every time a politician suggests fucking over poor people. I log onto Facebook and watch my entire extended family post some of the most vile and hateful shit 24/7. I've always been a scatterbrained mess, but now the world is seriously starting to bum me the fuck out. Well, more than usual.

I dunno, I just feel like the whole world is shit and that I daydream to escape it. My life isn't that bad, it's actually pretty good now, but it's hard not to feel sad all the time when it seems like everyone is so genuinely fucking awful. I know I need to talk to someone, but I don't even know what my healthcare options are because my command basically just shoved me out.

I'm tired of being a distractible apathetic mess.

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    edited February 2016
    Does your school offer mental health counseling at all? That is often a get avenue to get cheap care. There are usually some low cost clinics in the area that can help out a lot as well. If you want to PM or state the general area you are in (city or county/parish) I can see what I know of in the area. Mostly that's the Gulf South, but I have some Midwest contact's and can occasionally nab people from other places or track one down myself. Your doctor might also have sugggestions if you ask for one.

    I suggest all of this because it sounds a lot like depression. A lot of the classic red flags are there. Note I am NOT diagnosing nor would I try in this venue. Personal not professional opinion disclaimer yada yada. That said both talk therapy and medication can offer tremendous relief if that is the case. Thats your best first move.

    I would also recommend actively blocking your shit head family on FB. Fuck those guys and their terrible opinions. Cultivate a feed free of that just cause who needs it.

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  • Zilla360Zilla360 21st Century. |She/Her| Trans* Woman In Aviators Firing A Bazooka. ⚛️Registered User regular
    Gnizmo wrote: »
    I would also recommend actively blocking your shit head family on FB. Fuck those guys and their terrible opinions. Cultivate a feed free of that just cause who needs it.
    Yeah. Terrible dead-beat dads are the WORST. No wonder you're effed/messed up. :(

    You've had a bad start but you can still recover. The world is unfair, but as a good person, it's up to you to be, and live, the change you wish to see in your life and this world.

    You've got great talent as an artist. It's up to you to nurture it and find a way to make a living from it, with as much help as you can find along the way.

  • Reverend_ChaosReverend_Chaos Suit Up! Spokane WARegistered User regular
    That sounds like a tough way to start your life. However, the rest of it however is up to you. You write your own life story. It's not one thing. It's a series of small things. Start with your Mental Health as that will start you down the right path. It will have a domino effect throughout your life.

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  • GnizmoGnizmo Registered User regular
    I believe he grasps he has to take charge here so I am unsure how helpful that is. It certainly sounds like he is actively trying to improve his situation and indeed has taken steps as seen with his getting a prescription for his ADHD. Reminding him of his need to take charge becomes less than helpful and more perceived as an insult. Asking for help here is also a big step! These are positive actions and motions that should be noted and rewarded as best possible.

    Best of intentions I understand but the short of it is depression warps stuff to negative easily. I think calls for more boot straps will just push him further down that road.

  • tapeslingertapeslinger Space Unicorn Slush Ranger Social Justice Rebel ScumRegistered User regular
    one suggestion, re: facebook, is that if 'unfriending' family members will cause grief, just "unfollow" the individual's posts, so they're still on your 'Friends' list (using that term verrrrry loosely) but you don't have the torrent of negativity.

    question re: daydreaming-- is it the like, "anywhere-but-here" kind of thing or is it tied to art projects, etc?

  • [Paragon][Paragon] I'm a real doctor, for pretend! North DakotaRegistered User regular
    Know of any other veterans at your school? Chances are good there is a veterans group or support group on campus who could help you out. There are more than likely veterans groups in your area as well who could steer you in the right direction. There should also be some kind of local county health..services..thing...that has therapists and the like for low income/uninsured patients. Wait lists might be long, but shit something is better than nothing. Also see what your school has available in terms of counselors as well.

  • BloodycowBloodycow Registered User regular
    Also, there are plenty of veterans on this forum. Including myself, who will gladly shoot the shit with you or if your even local help you get out of the funk your in.

    You really need to get as much help from Behavioral/Mental health as you can, if VA is refusing to help, see if there are any state help you can get. Also if VA is actually flat out refusing to help ( I get them not wanting to pay for your ADHD stuff as that was prior to entry) but your general mental health and well being shouldn't be an issue with them. Let me know, I know some VA advocates or some people in general that you can contact and force VA's hand.

    Good luck to you and reach out to any of us from the Military thread!

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  • rockmonkeyrockmonkey Little RockRegistered User regular
    I tend to approach problems like these with the snowball effect. Without trying to sound too cliche, don't bite off more than you can chew when it comes to making changes, don't overburden yourself because then you will likely fail to make ALL those changes work all at once.

    Some of my list may not apply as you didn't mention physical health, but a lot of the time how your body feels can effect how your mind feels.
      Make little changes and try to stick with them and then build on that foundation. For depression I find trying to keep a regular sleep cycle and keep lots of natural light, or just ANY light will help at home. I agree with the "unfollow" the facebook extended family. Try not to eat crap and drink lots of soda. Get some fresh food, drink lots of water. Try to work on your body before make huge changes on the external things Get some help from a professional at school. They usually offer something for students. If not, look for a support group, it's a great place to get feelings off your chest and also to maybe meet some people. Be social, but be social where it fits for you. If you're not into drunk parties and being a bro then don't do that scene. It helps to be social, we are social beings. Normally people say to exercise in lists like this. It's not for me so I don't recommend it, it might be for you.

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  • ShellbackShellback Registered User regular
    I'll second a lot of what's being said. I've struggled with mental issues and apathy for most of my adult life and it was only recently that I was able to start turning things around. I took Gabe and Tycho's advice and talked to my doctor about lexipro which has helped a lot. Beyond that, I cut all of the negative influences out of my life (my family sounds a lot like yours) and started eating healthy. I'm not skipping down the rainbow road but I'm more functional that I was and the closest to happy I've ever been.

    Finding other vets to talk to is also a good idea. Shared experiences and all. Maybe try joining in on the creative areas here. Talking to other artists might fan the flames, so to speak.

  • Kaboodles_The_AssassinKaboodles_The_Assassin Kill the meat. Save the metal.Registered User regular
    When you said the VA won't cover it, did you mean you actually went to them and denied you service? I'm pretty sure I flat out told the folks at my VA hospital that my depression started long before I enlisted, but they gave me treatment anyway. Not that counseling and meds did me any bit of good, but it probably wouldn't hurt to try.

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  • murph3010murph3010 Registered User new member
    Know allot of people are talking about benefits of Lexipro but has been studies in in europe and it has been found to be possibly cause cardiac arrest. Anyway here is a link to news article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/9367001/Safety-warning-over-Britains-most-common-antidepressant.html

  • PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    murph3010 wrote: »
    Know allot of people are talking about benefits of Lexipro but has been studies in in europe and it has been found to be possibly cause cardiac arrest. Anyway here is a link to news article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/health/9367001/Safety-warning-over-Britains-most-common-antidepressant.html

    ????

    Anyway, Lexapro, also called escitalopram, marginally increases cardiac risk in people who are already likely to have heart problems or are taking other medications that cause QTc prolongation. It's usually not an issue, and is nothing that can't be monitored and managed. That's all an aside, though. A psychiatrist would know whether it would be appropriate, not us, and best not to do amateur pharmacology.

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  • KamarKamar Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    edit: Well, crap. This is an old post revived by, like, a Scientologist spammer or something, isn't it.

    Your situation really does remind me of how I feel off medication (most of my life from 12 to 26). I'm diagnosed with ADHD and major depression now, on Vyvanse and sertraline (Zoloft) for them (and a bit of anxiety, which they both help with as well).

    It's important to realize that you have two major things to struggle with here, even if we ignore how fucked up life itself has been for you:

    One, ADHD isn't just an attention problem. All our recent research indicates it's an executive function problem--there'd probably be have been a push to change the name in the new DSM if ADHD weren't named specifically in legislation. Anyway, that means that more than 'attention' it actually effects:

    Hindsight and foresight (Meaning you'll fuck around because you can't properly link doing right now to past and future failures)
    Working memory (which is why you forget to get back on task when you do get distracted)
    Impulse control (Short tempers, blurting dumb shit out, going to see what that noise was instead of staying on task)
    Motivation (because normal people control their emotions in a way you'll struggle to)

    Fortunately, it also responds very well to medication, and extremely well to medication and therapy for adults. If one medicine isn't cutting it, try another. If you're crashing, make sure you're trying something with weaker crashes and a longer tail like Vyvanse, or get small booster pills for the evening.

    If you have depression also, you get another set of things to overcome:

    Not taking pleasure from things you should
    Motivation (yup, again)
    Lack of energy
    Listlessness
    Bleak impressions of the future/that "what's the use" feeling

    This also needs to be treated with medication and therapy, if you have it.

    Either way, I know it's really, really, really hard to actually take this information and turn it into actions with those problems. It's absolutely crucial that you do so, however. If you have anyone near you that you can trust to help with getting you to push forward and keep trying doctors/medications/therapists until everything clicks, make sure they know exactly what's up and what's on the agenda. It helps immensely.

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