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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    you all are such cards

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Just bring an assortment of gambling paraphernalia with you into the voting booth

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    ShortyShorty touching the meat Intergalactic Cool CourtRegistered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    rhylith wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    I do notice that a lot of the people that play the "both sides are the same card" are those that would not be impacted directly by the Republican platform.

    Or they could be the people who are understandably concerned that neocons are endorsing the likely democratic presidential candidate

    Wha?

    Robert Kagan just a few weeks ago wrote an op-ed in the Washington Post endorsing her.

    I mean it's not really a surprise given her foreign policy, but personally I am somewhat distressed that in the year 2016 a democratic front runner has not only bragged about her friendship with a war criminal but insinuated "Maybe the Contras were good, actually."

    Just please remember if she gets the nomination that staying home means Trump wins and what that means for the future.

    I will vote for Hillary in November if she gets the nod but it's pretty frustrating how pervasive the sentiment is that we should be happy voting for a shitty candidate just because the other alternatives are so much worse instead of demanding better.

    I don't think that sentiment is very prevalent, definitely not here

    most everyone is saying "by all means, use your primary vote to express your frustration with the party, if you have any--just tick the box in November, for the love of god"

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    ButtersButters A glass of some milks Registered User regular
    Balefuego wrote: »
    neocons specifically, aren't going to back an isolationist like Cruz either.

    They wouldn't be too keen on his calls to eliminate the FDA, Department of Education, or EPA either. Cruz is a weird composition of evangelical and libertarian that I expect would really harm GOP voter turnout.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Butters wrote: »
    Balefuego wrote: »
    neocons specifically, aren't going to back an isolationist like Cruz either.

    They wouldn't be too keen on his calls to eliminate the FDA, Department of Education, or EPA either. Cruz is a weird composition of evangelical and libertarian that I expect would really harm GOP voter turnout.

    Cruz is the kind of candidate who would wither like a slug in the spotlight of a general election. The ONLY thing he has is the tribal loyalty of evangelicals, and even they are starting to drift over to Trump.

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    FencingsaxFencingsax It is difficult to get a man to understand, when his salary depends upon his not understanding GNU Terry PratchettRegistered User regular
    Well Hillary isn't a shitty candidate, so...

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    gtrmpgtrmp Registered User regular
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
    The message Obama telegraphed in speeches and interviews was clear: He would not end up like the second President Bush—a president who became tragically overextended in the Middle East, whose decisions filled the wards of Walter Reed with grievously wounded soldiers, who was helpless to stop the obliteration of his reputation, even when he recalibrated his policies in his second term. Obama would say privately that the first task of an American president in the post-Bush international arena was “Don’t do stupid shit.”

    Obama’s reticence frustrated [Samantha] Power and others on his national-security team who had a preference for action. Hillary Clinton, when she was Obama’s secretary of state, argued for an early and assertive response to Assad’s violence. In 2014, after she left office, Clinton told me that “the failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad … left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.” When The Atlantic published this statement, and also published Clinton’s assessment that “great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” Obama became “rip-shit angry,” according to one of his senior advisers. The president did not understand how “Don’t do stupid shit” could be considered a controversial slogan. Ben Rhodes recalls that “the questions we were asking in the White House were ‘Who exactly is in the stupid-shit caucus? Who is pro–stupid shit?’ ” The Iraq invasion, Obama believed, should have taught Democratic interventionists like Clinton, who had voted for its authorization, the dangers of doing stupid shit.

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    By law the executive branch can only use one curse word, which it must choose in the first hundred days after election

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular

    Out of how many democrats? And how many did the republicans lose? People look at these numbers and go "OH SHIT OH NO!!!" But if there are million democrats that's not a huge number.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Preacher wrote: »

    Out of how many democrats? And how many did the republicans lose? People look at these numbers and go "OH SHIT OH NO!!!" But if there are million democrats that's not a huge number.

    Looking at the most recent data I can find, there were 4 million registered Democrats and 3 million registered Republicans in November 2014.

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    DOOOOOOOM

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    NyysjanNyysjan FinlandRegistered User regular
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Well Hillary isn't a shitty candidate, so...
    I don't really get the reason people are so upset during this primary.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »

    Out of how many democrats? And how many did the republicans lose? People look at these numbers and go "OH SHIT OH NO!!!" But if there are million democrats that's not a huge number.

    Looking at the most recent data I can find, there were 4 million registered Democrats and 3 million registered Republicans in November 2014.

    In 2012, Obama won Ohio by 166,214 votes.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Ok and this is PA? How much did he win PA by?

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ok and this is PA? How much did he win PA by?

    46,001

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    BertezBertezBertezBertez Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
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    ...but I would say that

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    BaidolBaidol I will hold him off Escape while you canRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ok and this is PA? How much did he win PA by?

    Looks to be about 300,000.

    I don't think the conversation is very fruitful, because there are many things interplaying here. How many Republicans crossed over? How many Democrats/Republicans stay home in November? Does voter turnout for either party increase?

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Xaquin wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ok and this is PA? How much did he win PA by?

    46,001

    It was 309,840.

    And yeah, oops.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Did I hear someone call!?

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Did I hear someone call!?

    No sleep, no one calls you. You just turn up like a bad penny or a sneaky shit during a bad sneezing fit.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    ph blakeph blake Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    gtrmp wrote: »
    http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
    The message Obama telegraphed in speeches and interviews was clear: He would not end up like the second President Bush—a president who became tragically overextended in the Middle East, whose decisions filled the wards of Walter Reed with grievously wounded soldiers, who was helpless to stop the obliteration of his reputation, even when he recalibrated his policies in his second term. Obama would say privately that the first task of an American president in the post-Bush international arena was “Don’t do stupid shit.”

    Obama’s reticence frustrated [Samantha] Power and others on his national-security team who had a preference for action. Hillary Clinton, when she was Obama’s secretary of state, argued for an early and assertive response to Assad’s violence. In 2014, after she left office, Clinton told me that “the failure to help build up a credible fighting force of the people who were the originators of the protests against Assad … left a big vacuum, which the jihadists have now filled.” When The Atlantic published this statement, and also published Clinton’s assessment that “great nations need organizing principles, and ‘Don’t do stupid stuff’ is not an organizing principle,” Obama became “rip-shit angry,” according to one of his senior advisers. The president did not understand how “Don’t do stupid shit” could be considered a controversial slogan. Ben Rhodes recalls that “the questions we were asking in the White House were ‘Who exactly is in the stupid-shit caucus? Who is pro–stupid shit?’ ” The Iraq invasion, Obama believed, should have taught Democratic interventionists like Clinton, who had voted for its authorization, the dangers of doing stupid shit.

    This is a really interesting article, thanks for posting it.

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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Baidol wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Ok and this is PA? How much did he win PA by?

    Looks to be about 300,000.

    I don't think the conversation is very fruitful, because there are many things interplaying here. How many Republicans crossed over? How many Democrats/Republicans stay home in November? Does voter turnout for either party increase?

    I think it is important to realize that the jobs message is going to hit the Democrats hard in their union-supporting base, so they are going to have to do more to motivate other groups. If we have another "Other guys sooo bad!" election, there's a chance that the Democrats could lose this.

    Keep in mind, Republican primary turnout has been up while Democrats are down. That's an ominous sign, although maybe the return of a real race might spur turnout.

    It's a really bad year to rest on laurels.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    None of the democrats are really running on "other guys are so bad!" I only tend to make that in a "even if you aren't paying attention to Clinton/Sanders have you seen the crazy shit out of the GOP?"

    On top of that the dems will be pounding hard on flipping the supreme court since that will be in play come november.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Preacher wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Did I hear someone call!?

    No sleep, no one calls you. You just turn up like a bad penny or a sneaky shit during a bad sneezing fit.

    Well that was unnecessarily harsh, and pretty expositionary in the fact that you apparently can't control your bowels well enough.

    Sleep on
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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Who here has underwear that's the same color as when they bought it please raise your hand

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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    ChicoBlueChicoBlue Registered User regular
    Me!

    Because I have some underwear I haven't worn yet.

    Saving those babies for the day I get hit by a car.

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    chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    http://m.imgur.com/gallery/LG9TwC4

    There are some good graphical designers floating around.

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Local defensive driving course reduced to taking attendees to chipotle, reckless driving incidence plummets

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Did I hear someone call!?

    No sleep, no one calls you. You just turn up like a bad penny or a sneaky shit during a bad sneezing fit.

    Well that was unnecessarily harsh, and pretty expositionary in the fact that you apparently can't control your bowels well enough.

    When 33 years old you get, look as good you will not.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    http://m.imgur.com/gallery/LG9TwC4

    There are some good graphical designers floating around.

    How corny

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    SleepSleep Registered User regular
    Paladin wrote: »
    Who here has underwear that's the same color as when they bought it please raise your hand

    I control my bowels and know how to properly wipe thank you very much. The only reason my underpants change color is due to natural fading.
    Preacher wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Did I hear someone call!?

    No sleep, no one calls you. You just turn up like a bad penny or a sneaky shit during a bad sneezing fit.

    Well that was unnecessarily harsh, and pretty expositionary in the fact that you apparently can't control your bowels well enough.

    When 33 years old you get, look as good you will not.

    You're only three years older than me there preacher man.

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    chocoboliciouschocobolicious Registered User regular
    http://m.imgur.com/gallery/LG9TwC4

    There are some good graphical designers floating around.

    How corny

    Most memorable things are. The sad existence of us jaded sacks of meat.

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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Sleep wrote: »
    Paladin wrote: »
    Who here has underwear that's the same color as when they bought it please raise your hand

    I control my bowels and know how to properly wipe thank you very much. The only reason my underpants change color is due to natural fading.
    Preacher wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Sleep wrote: »
    Did I hear someone call!?

    No sleep, no one calls you. You just turn up like a bad penny or a sneaky shit during a bad sneezing fit.

    Well that was unnecessarily harsh, and pretty expositionary in the fact that you apparently can't control your bowels well enough.

    When 33 years old you get, look as good you will not.

    You're only three years older than me there preacher man.

    And yet I make this look good. Just you know, not in my shorts.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    PhillisherePhillishere Registered User regular
    Squats are an amazing exercise for regaining bowel control.

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    PaladinPaladin Registered User regular
    Squats are an amazing exercise for regaining bowel control.

    It's true, ever since I got back into squats I've been hitting the toilet harder than ever before

    Marty: The future, it's where you're going?
    Doc: That's right, twenty five years into the future. I've always dreamed on seeing the future, looking beyond my years, seeing the progress of mankind. I'll also be able to see who wins the next twenty-five world series.
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    BalefuegoBalefuego Registered User regular
    Nyysjan wrote: »
    Fencingsax wrote: »
    Well Hillary isn't a shitty candidate, so...
    I don't really get the reason people are so upset during this primary.

    Probably ecause there's a large segment of progressive voters who are not looking forward to having to wait 8 years for a chance at a truly progressive nominee in the White House rather than a hawk like Clinton who is emblematic of a party establishment that they are increasingly disillusioned with/feeling betrayed by.

    Clinton ran to the right of Obama in 08 and her platform was almost hilariously moderate until Bernie started pushing her to the left.

    This is a simplistic and broad take on it of course, there are going to be a lot more different, specific reasons why voters would be unhappy with one candidate or the other, but it's not hard to see that there's a rather dramatic rift in the left opening up right now. Not as disastrously or explosively as on the right, but it's happening.

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    BroloBrolo Broseidon Lord of the BroceanRegistered User regular
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    XaquinXaquin Right behind you!Registered User regular
    look, all I'm saying is I can take care of the bills
    QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!

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    joshofalltradesjoshofalltrades Class Traitor Smoke-filled roomRegistered User regular
    Xaquin wrote: »
    look, all I'm saying is I can take care of the bills
    QUAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCCCCCCCK!

    Water fowl joke you just made.

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