The new forums will be named Coin Return (based on the most recent vote)! You can check on the status and timeline of the transition to the new forums here.
Please vote in the Forum Structure Poll. Polling will close at 2PM EST on January 21, 2025.

[FFRK] Scream, Shout, the thread is dead, the glorious mishmosh of kanji thread is dead.

RiusRius Globex CEONobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
edited April 2016 in Games and Technology
Final Fantasy Ramza Keeper

270?cb=20080203052056


[Final Fantasy Record Keeper] Is actually a pretty fun mobile free-to-play game for iOS and Android. It's not perfect by any means, but it's a HUGE improvement over such duds as All The Bravest. It's a walk down memory lane with a simple ATB style combat system with a surprising amount of depth and strategy. There is a new event every week, featuring your favorite characters and stages from Final Fantasy history, so it never gets old, and it IS free to try, so give it a shot if you have some time to spare. Just don't give them any of your money.
How naive I was about this little game.

This is the thread for talking about Square Enix's F2P Mobile game Final Fantasy Record Keeper (FFRK) for iOS and Android. Initially met with skepticism after some of SE's lackluster F2P entries in the past, it has grown in scope and popularity to the point where it gets as much discussion as any other mainline Final Fantasy game.

The game features a pretty basic Active Time Battle system. You can take up to 5 characters, made up of all your favorites from past games (and one original starter character) as you journey through the cliff notes version of all the Final Fantasy games. Each Final Fantasy game is a world, made up of dungeons with several stages. Each stage requires you to spend stamina to attempt them. Stamina recharges at a rate of 1 every 3 minutes. There are also limited time events that occur every week featuring additional stages, characters, and rewards.

There is a surprising depth of strategy to this game, as each character can equip different combinations of equipment and abilities, allowing for many different approaches to tackling some of the at times quite intense challenges. Characters and equipment also get bonuses if you match them to the world you're in (for example, Cloud gets a bonus in FF7 stages, as does anyone equipping his Buster Sword).

The F2P comes in the form of the in-game currency, Mythril, which allows you to pull powerful relics from reward banners. Mythril also allows you to recharge stamina, and to try again if you happen to be defeated in a stage. You can spend real money on Gems which have the same function as Mythril, though refreshingly for a F2P game it's possible to clear all content without spending a dime. This is thanks to several quality of life features implemented by DeNa, chief among them the Friend Summon system. Additionally, rather generous amounts of free Mythril are available between a combination of login bonuses, stage completions, event participation and quest completion.

Tips and information for new players starting out (CLICK THE SPOILER "..." BUTTON BELOW);
1) Quests.
From the home screen, the Missions button in the upper-right features Wayfarer, Normal and Special missions. The Wayfarer missions are meant for new players and will guide you to some of the game's basic features, as well as giving you some nice ability and item rewards. Move on to the Normal missions from there. Special missions are not in the game yet, but will involve high difficulty content when they arrive.

2) Stamina.
You can see the current / maximum stamina numerically in the upper right corner of your Home screen. Below that is an orange bar that shows the same thing, but below that bar is a set of 5 hexagons representing your current Stamina Shards. When you get 5 Stamina Shards, you refill your stamina to full and your maximum goes up by 1. The filled in hexagons show you how many stamina shards you have towards the next stamina refill and maximum +1. It is to your benefit to collect that fifth shard when you're running out or empty of Stamina. Efficiency is good!

3)Record Info.
When reading about the record in question, several tabs will be available with story, reward and boss info. Here you can read about the story background, rewards, and boss strategies as well as any medal requirements.

Upon completing any given stage in a record, your performance will be ranked. For any stage without a boss, you can earn up to 9 medals. You will lose medals if more than one party member dies, or if the party takes too much damage or uses too many actions to clear the stage. Earn enough medals and you will gain the Expert or Champion rating for the stage, which provides 150% and 200% experience, respectively.

Upon finishing the entire record, there are 3 reward levels; Completion, First Time Completion and Mastery. You can get the Completion bonus every time you complete that record. However, the other two can only be achieved once and typically include excellent rewards. To attain Mastery rewards, you must have earned 83.33% (5/6th) of all medals within the record. Remember those boss medal requirements? Each gives 3 medals if completed or 0 medals if not, so for records with few or only one stage, boss medal requirements can be crucial for obtaining Mastery rewards.

4) Realm Synergy.
Every character and every item comes from a specific realm. When you go into a record for a realm, characters from that realm are treated as if they are 10 levels higher. Items from that realm are significantly boosted in stats, provided the item itself is leveled up. If you're going into an FFVII record, it's a good idea to bring Cloud. It's a great idea to bring someone carrying the Buster Sword. It's a fantastic idea to bring Cloud carrying his own Buster Sword!

The boost from synergized items is stronger than the boost from synergized characters, so it's good to collect and maintain a spread of items from all realms. You will accumulate this over time, so don't worry too much.

5) Events.
Typically, there's 1 or 2 events running at any given time. These events start at a very low difficulty that even first day players can participate in, and end at very high difficulties that even longtime veterans can have trouble with. Rewards for completing event stages can include new or returning characters and their Memory Crystals (used to break level caps), weapons, armor or accessories from the event's realm, orbs, upgrade materials and of course Mythril. Events typically run for about two weeks and overlap, and you should definitely try to complete as much of each event as possible.

6) Hall of Rites.
The Hall of Rites is a new feature where characters, their MC1s and their MC2s can be obtained. At times you will receive, typically as event stage rewards, Souls of a Hero (redeem for any characters, Memory Crystal Lode 1s (redeem for any MC1) and Memory Crystal Lode 2s (redeem for any MC2.)

7) Daily Dungeons.
Each day has a specific set of 1 or 2 dungeons. You can only get the First Time Completion and Mastery rewards once, same as the records, and those rewards don't refresh from week to week. So if you complete a stage of the Sunday dungeon, next Sunday it will still show them as all completed (though you could still farm the dungeon for normal drops or experience.)

Monday through Saturday, the daily dungeons have rewards for and can be used to farm orbs, upgrade materials or Gil. The Sunday dungeons feature battles with a tremendous amount of experience. To put it into some context, A + difficulty stage of a Monday-Saturday dungeon gives around 10,000 exp to be split to the party, while the experience dungeon gives up to 100,000!

8) Nightmare Dungeons
A new feature to the game, the Nightmare area will be open for two weeks every month, and each month adds a new dungeon. All previously added dungeons are accessible at any time that Nightmare is, so don't worry, you can catch up eventually. The Nightmare dungeons feature a series of challenging boss fights, culminating in a special fight where all characters of a certain 5* ability will get full synergy for themselves and all equipped items, regardless of what realm they or the items are from! These final fights are like puzzles that must be solved and typically require planning and tactics instead of super powerful gear.

9) Relics.
The Relics page, accessible via shortcut on the bottom right of most screens, is where one can "pull" from a variety of "banners" for items. Banner pulls are always at least 3* rarity, with a lesser chance at 4* rarity and a ~13% chance at 5* rarity. Doing so costs Mythril (in game currency) or Gems (purchased with real $$$).

Banners are typically linked to current Events, and every banner has featured 5* relics. If you're lucky enough to pull a 5* item, most of the time it will be one of the featured relics, but there's still a chance it won't be.

One can do a single pull for 5 Mythril, a triple pull for 15 Mythril or an 11 pull for 50 Mythril. Single pulls allow you to stop if you're lucky and hit something you wanted, but 11 pulls give you the most bang for your metaphorical buck. Your odds of drawing a 5* item are the same no matter how many items you pull at once and no matter which currency you use to pay for them.
Bluecyan wrote: »
FFRK Acronyms 101
MC - Memory Crystal [Item to break a characters level 50 limit. MC2 is used to break their level 65 limit.]
RM - Record Materia [New equipment type once MC is used. RM slot unlocked by breaking characters levels. RMs are acquired from level broken characters in a variety of ways]
SB - Soul Break [Think Limit Break from FF7, new ones can be learned by character specific 5* relics]
SG/SSII - Sentinel Grimoire/Stone Skin 2 [Also refereed to as Walls, either is a massive defensive SB]
SSB - Super Soul Break [Like an SB except they will also bestow a permanent stat up to the specific character when learned]
BSSB -Burst Super Soul Break [Like an SSB except it changes Attack and Defense commands to something else for a limited time]
M_O/G_O - Major Orbs/Greater Orbs [the middle _ represents which type of orb between Fire, Ice, Lightning, Earth, Non-Elemental, Dark, Holy, White, Black, Power, Summon]
_*++ - Blank is a number 1-5 which represents an items base rank (not combined). Every plus after the * represents how much its been combined. [A 3*++ will show up as a 5* in game but will be only about as powerful as a 4*. Rule of thumb is every item combination adds about half a rarity level of power.]
RS - Realm Synergy [Character or Item matches dungeons realm ie Cloud in FF7 dungeon or Blitzballs in FFX dungeon. This adds about 10 levels of stats to a character or about a rarity level in power to an item]

How can I learn more?

Mister P's PDF is a compilation of super useful information about FFRK. Ability damage multipliers, character skillsets, super break details, upcoming event information, etc etc.
Kongbakpao has a ton of useful information about a ton of things. Tons!

A while ago, FFRK added a friend summon system. We have a spreadsheet here you can plug your friend code into, and find the friend code of other PAers. In this spoiler is the old list of codes for reference purposes.
92th - El Fantastico
9BSW - jdarksun
9X5G - grove
9rRG - mackenzier
9EBA - Zerozaki Ishiki
913F - shamus
e7U2 - silence1186
9wC6 - Bluecyan
er3u - ResIpsaLoquitur
eSvR - Ilpala
99ZD - DrCongo
ecfN - Delphinidaes
ehpD - SutibunRi
e4XB - Maytag
QNeN - Enlong
9w7W - Billmaan
QdTv - SwashbucklerXX
GNqD - shoeboxjeddy
q7h5 - lionheart_m
9QDP - urahonky
Qjtu - BaywatchDave
GckH - Shadowfire
3sWN - A steak!
2EZ6 - Cirira
q4X6 - romantic undead
7gNG - peetsnack
zcsi - initiatefailure
Q4Dd - korodullin
GbSH - Geddoe
f7MM - maguano
3EnU - manetherenwolf
Fofd - savant
u6BN - Rius

Rius on
«134567100

Posts

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Current Event(s):

    FF Tactics - "By Stone Revealed"
    • Recruit Ramza and Agrias, and gain MC1s and MC2s for them both.
    • Earn a copy of Saint Cross (5★ Knight)!
    • Earn the accessory "Bracer" (+20 ATK), plus "Aries" (+30 ATK) by defeating Ultimate Belias!

    Current Special Banners:

    Dr. Mog's Beginner's Choice - This banner can only be pulled on once, and only with an 11-pull. It has the standard odds for getting a 5* relic, and the featured relics have either;
    • Character Soul Breaks for characters unlocked very early
    • Shared Soul Breaks that are useful for any party (AoE Heal, Protectga, Shellga)
    • Shared Soul Breaks that provide AoE attacks
    Additionally, after pulling on the banner you can choose one 5* relic, from a predetermined list, to be added to your inventory. The list includes one relic from each realm and has some duds and some great picks.

    Rius on
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    A steak! wrote: »
    I really wish we could get translated SSB banners, because I'd like to take a try on the second banner to finish off my Organics. Or failing that, at least know if I can can throw some mythril at Red Scorpion.

    I imagine, at the very least, we'll have the SSBFest banners before the FF8 event goes away.

    My 8 and 9 synergy are still pretty thin, but nothing on these FF8 banners really excites me. Red Scorpion is a hell of an SSB, but Quistis is pretty meh. It's basically born to be used as an RW only. Laguna's SSB would be great to have for nostalgia reasons, but I can't justify spending the Mythril when potential Wall and Scream and all that other OP shit are around the corner. Selphie's Super Stick would be excellent, but Lenna + Shared Medica has carried me this far.

    Decent SSBs, crappy banners. Bring on Anniversary!

    Rius on
  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    It feels a little silly doing this event with no Squall. I guess I have to wait for Hall of Rites to get him?

    FFRK:jWwH RW:Onion Knight's Sage USB
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    When did we get the Ssb banners was it during seph event? I can't remember

    38thDoE on steam
    🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀
    
  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    A steak! wrote: »
    I really wish we could get translated SSB banners, because I'd like to take a try on the second banner to finish off my Organics. Or failing that, at least know if I can can throw some mythril at Red Scorpion.

    I imagine, at the very least, we'll have the SSBFest banners before the FF8 event goes away.

    My 8 and 9 synergy are still pretty thin, but nothing on these FF8 banners really excites me. Red Scorpion is a hell of an SSB, but Quistis is pretty meh. It's basically born to be used as an RW only. Laguna's SSB would be great to have for nostalgia reasons, but I can't justify spending the Mythril when potential Wall and Scream and all that other OP shit are around the corner. Selphie's Super Stick would be excellent, but Lenna + Shared Medica has carried me this far.

    Decent SSBs, crappy banners. Bring on Anniversary!

    Stay strong Rius. If you want, I can hold your mythril. You know. Keep it safe.

    FFRK:jWwH RW:Onion Knight's Sage USB
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    38thDoe wrote: »
    When did we get the Ssb banners was it during seph event? I can't remember

    Like, the previous Festival banners? The last set were in December and ran alongside the Shadow, Sephiroth/Reno, and Faris/Krile events.

    Edit: Now that it's a new thread; did anyone notice the 2nd post updating in the last thread, is anyone looking at that, and would anyone like any other timely information in there?

    Rius on
  • 38thDoe38thDoe lets never be stupid again wait lets always be stupid foreverRegistered User regular
    When did we get them translated though?

    38thDoE on steam
    🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀🦑🦀
    
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Hmm... the first banner went live on the evening of December 21st, and the relic post on Reddit discussing it's featured relics went up on the 14th. So they were probably translated on the 13th or 14th.

  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    GOT LAGUNA'S GUN

    CUE THE THEME SONG

    Shamus on
  • silence1186silence1186 Character shields down! As a wingmanRegistered User regular
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Watch your image size, Shamus =P Always happens with straight shares from phones.

    That said; nice pull! If you're going to just get one 5* from an 11-draw, might as well be the featured SSB. A Blade Beam clone (superior, really, with 6x100 instead of 3x200) with 100% slow proc, on a dude with Combat4/Celerity4/Machinist5? That's handy as balls.

  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    Noted and thrown behind spoilers.

    I'm estatic. I was ready to throw down more mithril, got lucky on the first pull.

  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    I've got Selphie w/ Dreamstage up as my RW if anyone wants to try it. jWwH. Wish I'd had it for Seymour. Would've saved me some grief.

    FFRK:jWwH RW:Onion Knight's Sage USB
  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    Shamus wrote: »
    9etd50w9v6nh.png

    CUE THE THEME SONG

    Beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee beeeeeeeeeedeleeeeeee beeeeeeeeedeleeeee...

    FFRK:jWwH RW:Onion Knight's Sage USB
  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    Decided to ignore trying to Master Ultimate 7-AC right now. I may try again tomorrow after I finish the new event. Looking at the future uses for Major Fires and Blacks, it still looks like Meteor is a really good use for them, and I have R3 so if Mastery never happens, I won't be too upset.

    I do worry that things will still feel overtuned going forward though. The DEF/RES difficulty isn't so much a factor as needing to survive for so long and put out high levels of damage to kill Bahamut before you run out of hones. That's absurd.

    PSN: TheArcadeBear
    Steam: TheArcadeBear

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    Like, the next 5* skill that really uses Black is Dark Zone, and that's about 20 events away (minus a few that we'll undoubtedly not get, but still.) The next 5* skill that uses Fire is Bio Grenade, and that's more like 25 events away.

    Tornado Strike uses Black and is sooner, but who knows if we'll actually get it since the event it comes from is a collab.

  • FryFry Registered User regular
    Thinking about doing an 11 pull on one of these VIII banners, but can't decide which, or whether I should stay strong and keep waiting. Don't have medica or hastega, so the Selphie Stick and Quistis' whip would be the main draws. I feel really meh about everything else on the banners though (notably, I have plenty of fists already, and there are fists on both). Also not sure how good that whip is...Quistis doesn't get 5* anything, and whip seems like a suboptimal item type. Wat do?

  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    You shouldn't pull, really. You basically just said there's only one item on each banner that excites you, and one of those items is an uncommon type for a lackluster character. And the SSBFest banners are now literally right around the corner, where your buck will get much more bang.

  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    The only reason I'd pull on an 8 banner is for armor, of which I have zero right now. Lots of weapons though!

  • El FantasticoEl Fantastico Toronto, ONRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Yeah, Bio Grenade seems like a worth while skill to invest new MBOs in. When Japan got the boost to magic/summon skills getting double hit, Meteor was one of those spells, right?

    EDIT: Nope. Only summon magic. Bah.

    El Fantastico on
    PSN: TheArcadeBear
    Steam: TheArcadeBear

  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Quistia can still use every -aga (including ruinaga) and aja black magic spell, as well as boost and all the 4* breakdowns. Throw in the abilty to shell/regen/haste the entire party and she's doing okay.

    You'd still be relic chasing, though. And we all know what madness lies down that road.

    Narbus on
  • RiusRius Globex CEO Nobody ever says ItalyRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Ain't nothing about Shell/Regen/Haste that you can't just get from an RW, and Quistis has Support 5 level ATK (and MAG) but only has Support 4. There isn't really a place for her in the party =/

    Rius on
  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    I don't care at all for the first banner.

    maybe the second.

    maybe.

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Alright I've been trying different setups and was having difficulty with SIN Bahamut Ultimate. Finally decided to go with a double healer setup to keep mitigation high, and swapped in Fenrir Overdirve as my RW

    It was really tight right at the end but I managed to Master it with the following setup:

    viRvjlK.png

    Dropped a bonus MnEO at the end which was nice. Actually ended up using Blade Beam twice on Cloud to help clear the Adds, and Nibelhiem Nightmare twice as well. Then I kept Fenrir Overdrive on Seph when I could burn on Bahamut, and used it as well on Cloud (natural one) to do the same.

    That plus Planet Protector on Aerith and Princess favor on Lenna kept me topped off and doing decent damage.

    But seriously we're talking full synergy on items and most characters in the party plus 6 character specific SB's (Blade Beam, Fenrir Overdrive, Nibelhiem Nightmare, Sentinel Grimoire, Princess Favor, Planet Protector)

    Having to use all that to Master it is insane, this guy is tuned way high I feel.

    Even with all that I didn't kill the final Petaflare in time (by a hair) but luckily my full mitigation was up so I was able to eat the hit.

    edit: Thank you by the way to whomever mentioned that you didn't need to kill the final set of adds (once you had killed 3 sets) I was able to ignore them and focus down Bahamut, I wouldn't have been able to beat it if I stopped to try and kill them as I did in the past.

    Delphinidaes on
    NNID: delphinidaes
    Official PA Forums FFXIV:ARR Free Company <GHOST> gitl.enjin.com Join us on Sargatanas!
    delphinidaes.png
  • LuqLuq Registered User regular
    Sounds like you should wait Fry. I pulled cause I had absolutely 0 VIII synergy, would've been happy with any relic from the banner, and thrilled with two of them. (and I love VIII)

    I got the Selphie stick and it's awesome. Pulling for one relic on a banner though is just a horrible idea. Isn't it like 2% at best? So you very likely won't get what you want.

    FFRK:jWwH RW:Onion Knight's Sage USB
  • ManetherenWolfManetherenWolf Registered User regular
    well i finished through the +++ Sephiroth fight no problem.

    gonna work on some of the VIII event as a break before attempting the Ult.

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Yesterday, I did my 100 Gem pull on the second FFVII banner and got a rainbow, which made me super excited until I saw it was a generic spear.

    Did the 100 Gem pull on the Laguna banner, another rainbow, this time prepared for disappointment.

    Machine Gun (VIII)

    This is the fuckin' Guardian Targe banner all over again.

    IKknkhU.gif
  • JavenJaven Registered User regular
    Any way you slice it, 2 relic pulls in a row ain't nothing to sneeze at

  • StiltsStilts Registered User regular
    Javen wrote: »
    Any way you slice it, 2 relic pulls in a row ain't nothing to sneeze at

    I've actually been having a ridiculous amount of luck.

    My very first 100 gem got me the Guardian Targe, and the majority of my 11-pulls have gotten me at least two 5*. I've even gotten two 11-pulls that had four 5*.

    IKknkhU.gif
  • BluecyanBluecyan Buzz.. Buzz Buzz? BUZZ! Buzz buzz BuzzRegistered User regular
    Fry wrote: »
    Thinking about doing an 11 pull on one of these VIII banners, but can't decide which, or whether I should stay strong and keep waiting. Don't have medica or hastega, so the Selphie Stick and Quistis' whip would be the main draws. I feel really meh about everything else on the banners though (notably, I have plenty of fists already, and there are fists on both). Also not sure how good that whip is...Quistis doesn't get 5* anything, and whip seems like a suboptimal item type. Wat do?

    Definitely wait for the next event at the least. I would be incredibly surprised if we don't at least know whats on the SSB banners by then and further its a generally better. The first banner has a nice Medica, the second one has a hastagas rivaling Quistis' (unless you're running a mage team Garnet's really is better hands down).
    Rius wrote: »
    Like, the next 5* skill that really uses Black is Dark Zone, and that's about 20 events away (minus a few that we'll undoubtedly not get, but still.) The next 5* skill that uses Fire is Bio Grenade, and that's more like 25 events away.

    Tornado Strike uses Black and is sooner, but who knows if we'll actually get it since the event it comes from is a collab.

    Upgrading Flare for the next abyssal isn't the worst idea. Not exactly a lot of Non-elem or Dark single target spells to begin with, and you'll need those for one of the phases (non-elm is also one of the bonus conditions)

  • DelphinidaesDelphinidaes FFXIV: Delphi Kisaragi Registered User regular
    Alright so with the orbs I got from Bahamut Sin Ult I was finally able to Hone Meteor R2 and Full Break R2.

    I'm looking forward to using Full break much more often now that I can use it more liberally in a fight.

    NNID: delphinidaes
    Official PA Forums FFXIV:ARR Free Company <GHOST> gitl.enjin.com Join us on Sargatanas!
    delphinidaes.png
  • BeastehBeasteh THAT WOULD NOT KILL DRACULARegistered User regular
    full break is the single most important 5* skill to hone

  • NarbusNarbus Registered User regular
    Rius wrote: »
    Ain't nothing about Shell/Regen/Haste that you can't just get from an RW, and Quistis has Support 5 level ATK (and MAG) but only has Support 4. There isn't really a place for her in the party =/

    Laaaaame. I liked Quistis.

  • A duck!A duck! Moderator, ClubPA Mod Emeritus
    Narbus wrote: »
    Rius wrote: »
    Ain't nothing about Shell/Regen/Haste that you can't just get from an RW, and Quistis has Support 5 level ATK (and MAG) but only has Support 4. There isn't really a place for her in the party =/

    Laaaaame. I liked Quistis.

    Personally I'm going to disagree with Rius on this. She still has -ajas, she can use breakdowns (which you'll still take even with Full Break), and the whole point of getting a trinity item is so you can free up your Roaming Warrior slot. She also gets 5* BLM when we eventually get record dives.

  • Dunadan019Dunadan019 Registered User regular
    A steak! wrote: »
    Narbus wrote: »
    Rius wrote: »
    Ain't nothing about Shell/Regen/Haste that you can't just get from an RW, and Quistis has Support 5 level ATK (and MAG) but only has Support 4. There isn't really a place for her in the party =/

    Laaaaame. I liked Quistis.

    Personally I'm going to disagree with Rius on this. She still has -ajas, she can use breakdowns (which you'll still take even with Full Break), and the whole point of getting a trinity item is so you can free up your Roaming Warrior slot. She also gets 5* BLM when we eventually get record dives.

    her biggest problem is that she really only has a good place in a mage meta team which is on the downslide at this point in the game.

  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    @Stilts You shut your filthy mouth, Laguna is the best. :P

    I disagree with a mage team being on the downside. JP players still finish content with Mage parties. It's just that physical parties are finally catching up with Lifesiphon and the upcoming 5* abilities.

    Quistis has the problem of being outshone, like most of the mages, by Terra. Same skillset, except Terra has BM 5, is double-broken, and gets Summons down the road.

  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    How do equipment synergies work, stat wise? If I have a 6* and 7* fist for FFVII, there's no reason to save any other fists outside native 5* for different realms or no? I can't imagine a boosted 4/5* even with synergy would offer better stats.

  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    Save them.

    A 4++ or a natural 5* will have more attack. You can check in your equipment inventory by sorting by attack and then setting the synergy simulator to whatever RS you want to check.

  • Magus`Magus` The fun has been DOUBLED! Registered User regular
    So anything 3* or under you have a 4++ or 5++ can be sold?

    (I assume 4++/5++ = 6/7*)

    Don't want to waste space/money/mats on stuff that I will never need to use. I'll also run stuff through the synergy calculator, too.

  • ShamusShamus Registered User regular
    Save any 3* or 4* you have for realms you lack synergy for. You may grab another copy in the future that will help your RS. If you feel you can get by without it, feel free to sell.

    Yeah, 4++ = 6*, 5++ = 7*. If I remember correctly, each + is worth half a star in terms of RS.

This discussion has been closed.