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Penny Arcade - Comic - Magnets

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edited March 2016 in The Penny Arcade Hub

imagePenny Arcade - Comic - Magnets

Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.

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  • NemrexNemrex Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Given that the man has a distortion field that brings ruin upon any electronics and even degrading people's life force, I'm surprised that process even works at all.

    I mean, remember this:
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  • MorblitzMorblitz Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    I saw people boarding a plane by swiping their phone across the ticket scanner. It blew my damned mind.

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  • darleysamdarleysam UKRegistered User regular
    This is such a good comic!

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  • WhelmedWhelmed Registered User regular
    Yeah but just think about the day when the phone payment fail becomes no more shameful than when the credit card reader won't swipe. It's coming faster than we think...

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  • zepherinzepherin Registered User regular
    I don't have phone payment yet because it hasn't been fully battle tested, but I do relish the day where I don't need to carry all this shit in my wallet.

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  • ZurnicZurnic Registered User regular
    I've yet to have this work for me. Even on ones that have the symbol.

  • belligerentbelligerent Registered User regular
    I, uh, can't figure out how half a shaved head became a thing.

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  • TofystedethTofystedeth veni, veneri, vamoosi Registered User regular
    I, uh, can't figure out how half a shaved head became a thing.

    The first instance I remember of it was Natalie Dormer totally rocking it a couple years ago.

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  • LinktmLinktm Registered User regular
    I remember when smartphones came out and everyone was like "Get the Keyring App! You don't need all those membership cards and dumb shit on your keychain anymore." And I was like "Awesome!" Then I saw millions of people fail and hold up lines trying to figure out how to get their screens to be scanned by a barcode reader that didn't want to scan them.

    Moral of the Story: I still carry a bunch of useless shit on my keychain.

  • dennisdennis Registered User regular
    I've never had phone payment FAIL. Only snag I had was when I forgot I had to unlock the phone. And I don't even have a data plan, so it's not because I have amazing network reception. I've only used Android Pay, though, in case that matters.

    I used to think phone payment was dumb. It's not really more convenient to pull out a phone and unlock it, especially if said phone windows up being out of battery. But then I read up on how it works and found it really appealing. The people you are paying never get your CC number. They get a fake proxy one that's only good for that transaction. That alone was enough to sell me on it, as it's hard for a company to be breached and leak your credit card number when they don't even have the damn thing.

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  • YoungFreyYoungFrey Registered User regular
    As long as I have to carry a driver's license, I'll feel no extra effort to carry a credit card. And paying with a credit card is so easy, I rarely have to sign for anything. The effort saved by a phone payment that worked perfectly seems very low. Is there something I'm missing? Phone pay seems like one of those dumb kitchen gadgets with a ridiculous infomercial trying desperately to tell you how hard the simple tasks you do are. "are you tired of opening milk cartons like a chump...?"

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  • TychoCelchuuuTychoCelchuuu PIGEON IndiaRegistered User regular
    I, uh, can't figure out how half a shaved head became a thing.
    The same way literally every other fashion trend becomes a thing: someone does it then more people do it.

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  • GDT1985GDT1985 Registered User regular
    I don't understand why fashion choices are such a big deal to people. The only person that is required to like such choices is the person making them. But humans are judgmental creatures at heart, I guess.

  • mausx3mausx3 Registered User new member
    Wizard Gabe Pin when?

  • DissentDissent Mr. Fancy Pants Flavour CountryRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Popped leather coat collars are now a thing. They're out there, and they're coming for you.

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  • DissentDissent Mr. Fancy Pants Flavour CountryRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    I do not know how to delete things.

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  • RenegadePhantomRenegadePhantom Registered User regular
    I, uh, can't figure out how half a shaved head became a thing.

    Porn. Hair tended to obscure the performer's face during, uhm, oral.

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  • NotoriusBENNotoriusBEN Registered User regular
    Morblitz wrote: »
    I saw people boarding a plane by swiping their phone across the ticket scanner. It blew my damned mind.

    it was a glorious 2 years, when that option first became a thing.

    instead of boarding with group 4, you instead got on the plane in group 2, able to put your things in the overhead and get your seat, and not paying $40 for the ''privilege''. you simply widened the screen for the barcode, ''to be read better'' and thus, your group number was concealed off screen.
    you don't board with group 1, that was for first class.

    airlines have since coded your group number into your code as well. anymore, you try to board before your group you get a 65 decibel klaxon of denial and embarrassment and told to go to the end of the fucking line by agents.

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  • ArtereisArtereis Registered User regular
    I, uh, can't figure out how half a shaved head became a thing.
    The same way literally every other fashion trend becomes a thing: someone does it then more people do it.

    Helped that Natalie Dormer actually looked great with it.

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  • InquisitorInquisitor Registered User regular
    Maybe I'm just being old but I never quite got the point of paying with a smart device.

    It seems like just introducing more points of failure into the system?

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  • geniekidgeniekid Registered User regular
    Love the dialogue for this one.

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  • madparrotmadparrot Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Inquisitor wrote: »
    Maybe I'm just being old but I never quite got the point of paying with a smart device.

    It seems like just introducing more points of failure into the system?

    As dennis mentioned, it makes your CC#'s much more hacker resistant, since it converts every transaction into something like a one time pad. As I understand it, your Apple Pay CC#'s are only stored in the secure element, the same thing that is giving the DoJ so much headache cracking recently. Also, for people with many credit/debit cards, the phone can hold all of them at once, lightening your wallet in a good way. I also get realtime updates on my CC usage on my phone screen, so even when someone charges it for something out of my presence, like a monthly subscription, I'm immediately informed.

    As for reliability, I got Apple pay on day one, and used it at least twice a week since then. It's only failed twice so far, both because the retailer's swiper was borked - IOW, cases where the physical card would have failed too.

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  • BlackDoveBlackDove Registered User regular
    I don't know about you guys, but my mystic weave is pretty weak even when it does work. It contains very few paper faces.

  • WitchalokWitchalok Registered User new member
    ...Is anyone else kind of turned on by Kara's look in the first panel?

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    If they are, they're not creepy enough to post about it. Good for them.

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  • PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    What strikes me about paying with your phone is I'm more likely to leave my phone at home than my wallet if only because my phone doesn't have my drivers license in it.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

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  • Darth WaiterDarth Waiter Elrond Hubbard Mordor XenuRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    What strikes me about paying with your phone is I'm more likely to leave my phone at home than my wallet if only because my phone doesn't have my drivers license in it.

    Yet.

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  • The WolfmanThe Wolfman Registered User regular
    Putting more and more of your life into a device with a battery life that would make mayflies jealous, and breaks if dropped from a height of 3 feet, I dunno feels like a bad idea to me.

    I guess that's how I know I'm getting old.

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  • dennisdennis Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    What strikes me about paying with your phone is I'm more likely to leave my phone at home than my wallet if only because my phone doesn't have my drivers license in it.

    My drivers license rarely texts, emails or calls me. It almost never has any funny cat pics on it and I may have been high then anyway.

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  • MarcinMNMarcinMN Registered User regular
    Putting more and more of your life into a device with a battery life that would make mayflies jealous, and breaks if dropped from a height of 3 feet, I dunno feels like a bad idea to me.

    I guess that's how I know I'm getting old.

    This is kind of my thought process as well. I think paying with the phone is cool and all, and I'm not necessarily against partaking in this convenience, but I don't think I'd ever reach the point where I'd pull all my cards out of my wallet or leave my wallet at home. There are many things that could go wrong with the phone, and while it might not be a big deal if I'm just a mile away at the store, it would be something else if I was travelling and suddenly all my money (aka my phone) was unavailable. Granted, one could argue that I could lose my wallet and have the same problem...but loss is only one of the many things that could go wrong with the phone.

  • MacMcCrackMacMcCrack Duchess of Manboob Wherever mediocrity is celebratedRegistered User regular
    the first panel is one for the Hall of Fame.

  • MacMcCrackMacMcCrack Duchess of Manboob Wherever mediocrity is celebratedRegistered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Putting more and more of your life into a device with a battery life that would make mayflies jealous, and breaks if dropped from a height of 3 feet, I dunno feels like a bad idea to me.

    I guess that's how I know I'm getting old.

    probably good to keep the wallet around as a backup.

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  • MacMcCrackMacMcCrack Duchess of Manboob Wherever mediocrity is celebratedRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    What strikes me about paying with your phone is I'm more likely to leave my phone at home than my wallet if only because my phone doesn't have my drivers license in it.


    heh I leave my wallet at home much more often than my phone, and I've had to spend countless hours in traffic going back for it.

  • DVGDVG Registered User regular
    NFC payments seem to be hit-or-miss still even at retailers who support it.

    At Best Buy, they want a PIN with the NFC payment, and the pin of the associated card doesn't work.

    At CVS, it rejected informing me to use the chip reader.

    Apple Store, Disney Store, Disney World and Khols are the other places I've used it regularly and it worked flawlessly every time.

    Really watch payments are even more convenient. Every single place at Disney World supports it, and not having to dig out a wallet and just tap my wrist to the terminal was pretty awesome. It was like living in the future where this problem is solved and cards were a thing of the past.

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  • dennisdennis Registered User regular
    edited March 2016
    Came back and read the news post to find that he's talking about Samsung Pay, specifically. Which makes a lot more sense when I see:

    Samsung Pay will work in stores that support NFC payments, but its big trick is a technology called MST (Magnetic Secure Transmission), which it picked up with the acquisition of a company called LoopPay. MST lets your phone with Samsung Pay emulate an actual physical card swipe, meaning it can work at virtually any payment terminal where you can swipe a card. You activate Samsung Pay on the phone, authenticate with your fingerprint (or a PIN if you prefer), and then hold the phone over where you'd normally swipe a card — it'll make the terminal react as if you had swiped a card through it, and process the payment. (link)

    That's freaking bizarre. I can see how that could be more prone to failure. Though even if it does work, I think that still makes you a GODDAMN DARK WIZARD.

    This is the kind of stuff that, when you see it done in a movie, any self-respecting tech nerd would call bullshit on. Enhance. Enhance!

    (FYI, they note that even when you use this method, you're using virtual card numbers.)

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  • ChiselphaneChiselphane Registered User regular
    Morblitz wrote: »
    I saw people boarding a plane by swiping their phone across the ticket scanner. It blew my damned mind.

    it was a glorious 2 years, when that option first became a thing.

    instead of boarding with group 4, you instead got on the plane in group 2, able to put your things in the overhead and get your seat, and not paying $40 for the ''privilege''. you simply widened the screen for the barcode, ''to be read better'' and thus, your group number was concealed off screen.
    you don't board with group 1, that was for first class.

    airlines have since coded your group number into your code as well. anymore, you try to board before your group you get a 65 decibel klaxon of denial and embarrassment and told to go to the end of the fucking line by agents.

    Granted I don't fly a lot, two or three times a year, but I always board one group # ahead of my own (obv. not moving up to first class, 90% of the time going in at 2 with a 3) and have never had an issue with it. Last flight a few weeks ago I did it and apparently a bunch of other people had done the same as we all headed to the same section.

    The whole boarding thing is really just a fucking joke though. Logically it would be most efficient for everyone involved to board the BACK of the plane first, with first class getting on last. I realize this creates a psychological issue for the people who paid more, but the plane isn't leaving until everyone's on no matter what order you got on. Plus you wouldn't have to worry about the poors brushing past you as they head towards steerage. And you still get the real benefit of getting OFF the plane first.

    And the LANES. I will never to the end of my days understand the idiocy of people who have paid more for a ticket getting to walk on one side of a 5 foot retractable fabric barrier, and the rest walk on the other side. Literally three steps from beginning to end.

    I like flying, really, but some of the bullshit involved is just so stupid. Phone passes help speed the line along at least.

    forty
  • Jakk FrostJakk Frost Registered User regular
    I like how her neckline apparently shrinks the less attracted she is to him.

  • darleysamdarleysam UKRegistered User regular
    I also want to say, the title of this comic is pulling some weight, too. Excellent jorb.

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  • MichaelLCMichaelLC In what furnace was thy brain? ChicagoRegistered User regular
    darleysam wrote: »
    I also want to say, the title of this comic is pulling some weight, too. Excellent jorb.

    So you'd say you're attracted to it?

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  • dennisdennis Registered User regular
    The whole boarding thing is really just a fucking joke though. Logically it would be most efficient for everyone involved to board the BACK of the plane first, with first class getting on last.

    Intuitive, but not necessarily correct:
    Another cause is the boarding process itself: the way and order that passengers are asked to board. You might assume the fastest way to load a plane is from the back to the front, so that no passenger needs to pass anyone in the aisle or hop over anyone in their row. This logic forms the basis of standard boarding procedures. But what would really happen if you boarded in precisely this way? The passengers would rush into the cabin, proceed toward the back—and come to a screeching halt as the first one or two passengers stowed their luggage. The first 30 passengers (the back five rows) would take up nearly the entire length of the cabin. The rest of the line has simply moved from the airport gate into the jetway or cabin—and it moves no faster.

    The problem is that boarding from the back to the front is a serial process: Only one action at a time is completed. It’s like deleting a page of text just using the delete key instead of selecting the entire page. In this case, only one passenger at a time is seated. The aisle in the airplane isn’t used effectively.

    A more efficient way to board would have only as many passengers in the airplane as can put their luggage away without interfering with each other. Those passengers should also be ordered so as to eliminate the need to pass by anyone either in the aisle or in the rows. In other words, it is better to make passenger boarding a parallel process where multiple actions occur simultaneously, instead of a serial process.
    http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/11/theres-a-better-way-to-board-planes/383181/

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