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International Mover Question

daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator?Registered User regular
I'll be moving in about a month. From NYC to Prague, Czech Republic. Unfortunately, the company is not interested in paying for movers, and after seeing some estimates neither am I.

So the question is: Cheap-ass international movers, know any? And specifically ones that aren't scams and I can feel confident that my stuff will show up on time and not on fire. Because all the cheap guys on-line seem to have hidden charges and losing shipments as core elements of their business strategy.

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  • DarkewolfeDarkewolfe Registered User regular
    No help, but congrats on moving to an awesome city!

    What is this I don't even.
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    You get what you pay for.

    In this instance there's probably very little reason to bring much with you but clothes and maybe a computer. Find a way to store it or get rid of it, IMO.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • GaslightGaslight Registered User regular
    May I ask what kind of job this is that they expect you to make a Transatlantic relocation but aren't willing to cover any of the expenses involved?

  • tinwhiskerstinwhiskers Registered User regular
    What are you trying to move, like stuff wise. Cause you might be better off just staying away from movers.

    If you are looking to save money, slow boat shipping is the way to go. You can move stupid amounts of stuff for a few hundred dollars that way. If its stuff you can find a way to crate up, look for a freight forwarder(shouldn't be hard in NYC) and see what they will quote you DAP your address in Prague. Just be aware there may be customs delays and such.

    Or look at like DHL/Fed-Ex freight options. I air mailed like 80lbs or about $5000 worth of tooling in a 3'x3'x5' box from Malaysia to the US for like $350 via DHL.


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  • CauldCauld Registered User regular
    My company moves people using Champion International Moving. I don't know how their prices compare to what you're seeing, but we use them a lot.

  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    Make sure that you do the cost analysis of just selling your old stuff and buying new vs. the cost of having it shipped.

    Clothes and such you can just stick in a large plastic tote that you seal with zip ties + tape and pay your airline for the extra pieces of luggage when you fly out.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    When it comes to movers, cheap = scam, basically.

    If you're moving temporarily and intending to come back to the US, it's probably worth your while to look into long-term storage for most stuff and just buy second hand/ikea once you get to Europe. Any reliable movers are going to cost a lot, and take time, which means even in the best case scenario you can end up sitting around owning nothing for a period.

  • davidsdurionsdavidsdurions Your Trusty Meatshield Panhandle NebraskaRegistered User regular
    And if you are going to do the long term storage route, think about this option: Paying for and building a shed on family/close friend's property that want a shed anyways eventually and just leave your stuff there and when you come back, you can put a bow on the door to the shed as a gift to the friend/family.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    How much is the value of all of your items?

    The cheapest way to get all of your items out of the country is to load them into a conex container and ship them to yourself. If that cost is greater than the value or your items, liquidate and buy new items.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    It depends on what you're trying to move

    If you're thinking of furniture and other household stuff, you are seriously better off just selling it or storing it than trying to ship it freight halfway across the globe. Unless it has some incredible sentimental value or is a unique/priceless piece.

    You could re-buy all that stuff in Prague for less than what it will cost to get it there reliably

    As far as miscellaneous stuff, like personal belongings, photos, your tooth brush, your computer, etc, I would recommend speaking with DHL about just shipping it there.



    TL;DR don't move your stuff. just take the essentials with you and rebuy it all when you get there

    If you ever watch HGTV, you'll notice that all the shows about people moving overseas always involve them wanting pre-furnished housing, etc. there is a reason for this.

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  • daveNYCdaveNYC Why universe hate Waspinator? Registered User regular
    Answers and things:
    1) It's an open ended move, so no year long assignment or anything, I'm there for the duration.
    2) I've already moved on from moving furniture. First price quote did that for me. Unfortunately I'm a bit of a book addict, so yeah... lots of boxes of that. About 200 c.f. There should be a 12 step program for me to not go to be cause I don't have a problem damnit!
    3) I'd store stuff at the parental unit's house, however the book addiction is genetic, so squishing more stuff in there just isn't going to happen.
    4) The company isn't paying because the move is my idea. I asked for it, and they set it up. Nice of them really, it's not like I was likely to be able to wrangle the documentation and find a job on my own over there.

    Thanks for the advice on everything. Beer on me for anyone who visits.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Just ship that via ups/dhl/fedex.

    It's probably going to be upwards of a few grand though. Moving companies would be likely as bad, if not worse.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • FoomyFoomy Registered User regular
    That is a lot of books to ship, your looking at something weighing 3-4000 lbs if you really have 200 cf of them. Basically your comparisons in size/weight are to that of a car.

    How often are you actually re-reading those books? I know the joy in having big full bookshelves, but that it one expensive house decoration to get shipped.

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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    daveNYC wrote: »
    Answers and things:
    1) It's an open ended move, so no year long assignment or anything, I'm there for the duration.
    2) I've already moved on from moving furniture. First price quote did that for me. Unfortunately I'm a bit of a book addict, so yeah... lots of boxes of that. About 200 c.f. There should be a 12 step program for me to not go to be cause I don't have a problem damnit!
    3) I'd store stuff at the parental unit's house, however the book addiction is genetic, so squishing more stuff in there just isn't going to happen.
    4) The company isn't paying because the move is my idea. I asked for it, and they set it up. Nice of them really, it's not like I was likely to be able to wrangle the documentation and find a job on my own over there.

    Thanks for the advice on everything. Beer on me for anyone who visits.
    Uggg, books are heavy. Throw that in a 5*5*8 Storage for 60 bucks a month, or another option would be to create an index of every book, pitch anything you could re-buy for under 10 bucks, set up an amazon wish list, and when you get to where you are going, just rebuy it all. Anything worth more than 10 bucks or doesn't exist anymore, put aside and take it with you. Now if your collection is a bunch of older hardbound books in excellent condition then it's hard choices Storage, shipping, ebay.

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  • tynictynic PICNIC BADASS Registered User, ClubPA regular
    If it's mainly books, then you should be able to get that on a slow-boat for not too much money. If you're freighting the goods, weight isn't much of an issue, just size, and books pack down well. I'd say 200 isn't gonna cost that much. (DHL and FEDEX will cost you a fortune, but since you don't need them immediately I wouldn't bother). Do you have computers etc that you need to take as well?

    For reference, I've moved continents twice and countries four times. My last move cost me upwards of $US3000 for about 430 cubic feet, but that was basically shifting my entire life from the UK to the US. You should not pay anywhere near that much for some books and random household items. One tip is that finding movers who do self-pack pods and suchlike will save you money on both ends, and pods/crates usually cost a flat fee, you can store anything up to a certain volume (usually 200-250ft^2 but there might be smaller ones).

  • Gabriel_PittGabriel_Pitt Stepped in it Registered User regular
    Having moved internationlly several times, and being a bibiliophile, don't move the books. Put them in storage. It makes your life much easier, and while being surrounded by packed bookshelves made me feel good and happy, it was something I realized in hindsight that I truely did not need, and was a big waste of money, all told.

  • JasconiusJasconius sword criminal mad onlineRegistered User regular
    books are the most expensive thing you could possibly ship

    I am pretty sure that DHL offers boat freight, which is the cheapest thing you could do...

    I'm sure there are third party companies that also do this, but you know.. DHL is really good.

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