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The Twilight Struggle For [chat]

JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp.I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
edited April 2016 in Debate and/or Discourse
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TWILIGHT STRUGGLE was the number-one-rated board game on boardgamegeek for something like eight years until it was dethroned by Pandemic: Legacy. Now it is number 2.

It is a game of Cold War brinksmanship and high strategy for two players. They take the role of either the United States or the Soviet Union and the game begins in 1945, with the battle lines drawn between the liberal capitalist Western Europe and the Communist Eastern Europe and Asia. The goal is to use world events, coups, and political realignments to shift the governments of a region toward one bloc or the other. Controlling a region nets victory points; earning 20 victory points at any time, or having the most VPs at the end, wins you the game.

If you start Global Thermonuclear War, you lose. But sometimes there are immense temptations to walk right up to the razor's edge. It's a sobering and astonishing experience, living in the fucked-up brain of a Cold War strategist for a couple of hours.
Twilight Struggle traces its roots to the early 2000s and a board gaming club at George Washington University. That’s where Gupta and co-designer Jason Matthews met. Not GW students themselves, they were friends with some, and would go to the school to play and also to bemoan the increasing complexity of historical games — a genre especially dear to them. The rulebooks were overlong, the game mechanics baroque.

Simplification, to Gupta and Matthews, was the name of their design philosophy. Rather than overwhelm players with a fat rulebook at the start, the designers spread the information required throughout the gameplay, on cards. A typical Twilight Struggle card reads, “Truman Doctrine: Remove all USSR Influence from a single uncontrolled country in Europe.” The Twilight Struggle rulebook is a relatively slender 24 pages.

They originally intended to do a game about the Spanish Civil War but realized they’d been scooped by a guy in Spain. “We’re probably not going to do a better job than he is,” Gupta joked. They eventually settled on the Cold War. Most games on the topic had focused on when the Cold War got hot. But thermonuclear war is depressing. Gupta and Matthews instead designed a game about the geopolitics, rather than a hypothetical military conflict.

Matthews, of Alexandria, Virginia, is an American history expert and was the legislative director for Sen. Mary Landrieu of Louisiana. Gupta, a history buff, was doing policy work at a think tank, then was in school for computer science, before dropping out after he landed his first job in the video-game industry. The two would discuss key aspects of the Cold War — the domino theory, the arms race, the space race — and these would make their way into the game.

And now it's a videogame on Steam.

http://store.steampowered.com/app/406290/

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At some point the [chat] Intramural Twilight Struggle League is going to happen, and I want to see a bunch of gimlet-eyed killers!

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    this hijacking of chat to talk about


    hey that actually seems like a pretty fun game.

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    HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Hell-o! I'll buy this!
    Also, Warmachine Tactics has been out for a while.

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
    I do hope we'll be getting 16 extra pages this thread to make up for our loss

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    The Struggle for Everyone's Anime

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Yay twilight sparkle

    fuck gendered marketing
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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Hell-o! I'll buy this!
    Also, Warmachine Tactics has been out for a while.

    I never got my copy blurf

    fuck gendered marketing
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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    sob sob i just lost a level 5 light cruiser to fucking eldar reavers

    The Great Faith served the Emperor well but now her mighty gun batteries have fallen silent as this once great avatar of the Imperiums might drifts silently through he void

    SHE WILL BE AVENGED

    (new rule do not play this game until the coffee kicks in)

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    I thought this was going to be a new plea for us to watch Fresh

    This is fine too

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    JacobkoshJacobkosh Gamble a stamp. I can show you how to be a real man!Moderator mod
    I really suck at battlefleet gothic and I think I need someone to like sit behind me and point out where all the stuff is on the screen that I need to be looking at

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    HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    sob sob i just lost a level 5 light cruiser to fucking eldar reavers

    The Great Faith served the Emperor well but now her mighty gun batteries have fallen silent as this once great avatar of the Imperiums might drifts silently through he void

    SHE WILL BE AVENGED

    (new rule do not play this game until the coffee kicks in)

    The release has been pushed back again, right? I mean, it seemed to work fine when I played it.

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    wanderingwandering Russia state-affiliated media Registered User regular
    Speaking of dudes today I bought a movie ticket from a dude with fantastic pink hair and I almost said "your hair is fantastic" but then instead I said "thank you" and walked away
    UPDATE:

    I went to the movies again today (err yesterday) and pink haired dude was there again and this time I started a conversation with him and complimented his hair and said I was thinking about dyeing mine, etc, and he was very nice and said I should totally do it and I don't think I came across as a creep. did i just level up my social skills

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    It's released this month on the 21st

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    HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Trace wrote: »
    It's released this month on the 21st

    Next week? Sweet!

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
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    I like this t-shirt. "Dreams of Byzantium".

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    however then you'll be buying it at full price, it's 10% of steam right now and buying the beta also gives you space marines for a faction.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    LOL
    To avoid becoming the world's biggest 'hotbox' the Vancouver Aquatic Centre will not open Wednesday, April 20, for fear the ventilation system will suck in too much pot smoke.

    An estimated 25,000 marijuana advocates are expected to light up on adjacent Sunset Beach that day for the annual 4/20 pot rally.

    "It's not possible to shut down intake fans," said park board chair Sarah Kirby-Yung.

    "Given the tens of thousands of people expected to be around the Aquatic Centre smoking marijuana that day, we are very sensitive to that intaking into the building."

    Kelly Taitinger, head coach of the Canadian Dolphins swim club, said some parents had expressed concern that children would be leaving the pool with the smell of marijuana on their clothes and bags.

    Taitinger however, doesn't think the facility needs to be shut down.

    "I'm unhappy," he said, noting that 120 of his swimmers will miss their training sessions that day.

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    Jacobkosh wrote: »
    I really suck at battlefleet gothic and I think I need someone to like sit behind me and point out where all the stuff is on the screen that I need to be looking at

    if in doubt... RAMMING SPEED

    but serious answer your play style is very much faction dependant

    Eldar are hit and run

    Orks are barge in there, ram them and shoot up the carcasses

    Chaos are speed in there, board them and run rings around them while your boarding parties gut them from the inside

    Imperium are wade through the firestorm, close to point blank and broadside them to the warp

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    21stCentury21stCentury Call me Pixel, or Pix for short! [They/Them]Registered User regular
    Last weekend before my move to the city.

    I will do the last of my packing tomorrow. This is awesome!!

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    Haphazard wrote: »
    Casual wrote: »
    sob sob i just lost a level 5 light cruiser to fucking eldar reavers

    The Great Faith served the Emperor well but now her mighty gun batteries have fallen silent as this once great avatar of the Imperiums might drifts silently through he void

    SHE WILL BE AVENGED

    (new rule do not play this game until the coffee kicks in)

    The release has been pushed back again, right? I mean, it seemed to work fine when I played it.

    it still needs a little fine tuning

    they added the Eldar a day or two ago but they're a little broken for some game modes

    like assassination or data recovery from a flagship mode the eldar can't be beaten, their ships are straight up faster than everyone elses and if all they have to do is run away until a timer expires there is absolutely nothing to stop them from doing that

    which yeah is very true to the fluff but it doesn't exactly work as a balanced video game

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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    Thats damned inconsiderate

    fuck gendered marketing
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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    I forgot how terrible the characters in GTA5 were

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    jesus christ this twitch emote

    LRU0MdM.png

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    I forgot how terrible the characters in GTA5 were

    I think you can enjoy being Trevor because he is entirely unapologetic about it

    The others have problems and desires that don't sync up with what you can make them do

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    How much better would GTA5 been if instead of a little prick Jimmy was a shut in weeaboo

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    How much better would GTA5 been if instead of a little prick Jimmy was a shut in weeaboo

    I'm still mad about that mission that started with Yoga

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    CasualCasual Wiggle Wiggle Wiggle Flap Flap Flap Registered User regular
    How much better would GTA5 been if instead of a little prick Jimmy was a shut in weeaboo

    I'm still mad about that mission that started with Yoga

    why?

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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    you can't trust the space elves

    Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
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    EchoEcho ski-bap ba-dapModerator mod
    I forgot how terrible the characters in GTA5 were

    I think you can enjoy being Trevor because he is entirely unapologetic about it

    The others have problems and desires that don't sync up with what you can make them do

    Trevor is basically "what if we made a GTA player an actual character?"

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    HaphazardHaphazard Registered User regular
    Yoga is hard, man.

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    How much better would GTA5 been if instead of a little prick Jimmy was a shut in weeaboo

    Or if he was just a gamer shut in

    Maybe if he just stayed inside and played GTA5.

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    edited April 2016
    jesus christ this twitch emote

    snip

    oh lord

    it's bad enough everyone and their mom on youtube uses this kind of shit as their profile pic

    edit: far be it from me to dictate whether or not people get to show their interest in erotica but it's like...really you guys

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Minigames where you have to go do basic chores for your parents so they don't kick you out of their basement.

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    cB557cB557 voOOP Registered User regular
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    I like this t-shirt. "Dreams of Byzantium".
    Shame that the Suleiman series has been so weak, though.

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    Minigames where you have to go do basic chores for your parents so they don't kick you out of their basement.

    Man this reminds me of Bully, that game was rad.

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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    cB557 wrote: »
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    I like this t-shirt. "Dreams of Byzantium".
    Shame that the Suleiman series has been so weak, though.

    I don't think it's weak, just way more intimate and personal than the standard series.

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    CindersCinders Whose sails were black when it was windy Registered User regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    Minigames where you have to go do basic chores for your parents so they don't kick you out of their basement.

    Man this reminds me of Bully, that game was rad.

    Yes but imagine it, a game where you play a shut in playing a video game where you are a shut in playing a vidja game

    it's delightfully absurd

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    BethrynBethryn Unhappiness is Mandatory Registered User regular
    edited April 2016
    jesus christ this twitch emote

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    Ah, ahegao faces. Yet another wonderful contribution from glorious Nippon?

    (for obvious reasons, do not google ahegao)

    Bethryn on
    ...and of course, as always, Kill Hitler.
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    RMS OceanicRMS Oceanic Registered User regular
    Casual wrote: »
    How much better would GTA5 been if instead of a little prick Jimmy was a shut in weeaboo

    I'm still mad about that mission that started with Yoga

    why?
    It's the one where Jimmy spikes your drink and when you get back your family has left you because Jimmy said you were drink-driving

    That lie always angered me for some reason

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    TraceTrace GNU Terry Pratchett; GNU Gus; GNU Carrie Fisher; GNU Adam We Registered User regular
    it's the first goddamn page of chat can we not mention the word ahegao please

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    bloodyroarxxbloodyroarxx Casa GrandeRegistered User regular
    Cinders wrote: »
    Minigames where you have to go do basic chores for your parents so they don't kick you out of their basement.

    Mow the lawn and pick up dog shit to earn money for the new hit video game.

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