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Chanus

Thomamelas wrote: »

Chanus wrote: »

things i am considering:

person of interest
cuckoo
the messengers - 1.5 stars recommended for me. i have to know what that means
lie to me - was that any good? i never saw it

If you are looking at procedural, may I suggest Psych for all of your fake psychic needs?

i did watch a bit of psych back when it first aired

it was enjoyable

Grape Ape

Watch Wallander

Jacobkosh

PLA wrote: »

Wait, what? Hitomi Tanaka cosplayed Boa Hancock?

hm this bears investigating /googles

Grape Ape

Apropos nothing except it is a well made show

Thomamelas

Chanus wrote: »

Thomamelas wrote: »

Chanus wrote: »

things i am considering:

person of interest
cuckoo
the messengers - 1.5 stars recommended for me. i have to know what that means
lie to me - was that any good? i never saw it

If you are looking at procedural, may I suggest Psych for all of your fake psychic needs?

i did watch a bit of psych back when it first aired

it was enjoyable

It does that thing that USA did really well in that period where they assembled a charming cast that has a good chemistry. And gave them scripts that were good but don't take a lot of risk. And then gave them a crime of the week and free reign to mock The Mentalist.

Trace

I'm sorry the Mentalist was an excellent show with some actual believable psychology mixed in with "convenient" storytelling in some cases.

Jacobkosh

Chanus wrote: »

hello butts what television programme should i watch an episode of before going to sleep since i am now through izombie

which i liked btw

i also liked how it was like

oh this is a fun monster of the week kind of show and there is some underlying story and tension between some characters and just good fun and OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK WHEN IS SEASON TWO COMING OUT

@Jacobkosh

@Chanus yessssss

I really am not big into zombie stuff at all but I love how the show basically isn't really a zombie thing so much as a supernatural cop procedural/medical mystery/relationship drama/social satire?

like they just did the WILL IT BLEND of genre television

now it is time for you to undertake Person of Interest aka hobobatman

knitdan

The Ragnar Lothbrok of GoT is clearly

Book spoiler

Euron Greyjoy

kedinik

:whistle: frying beans, frying beans :whistle:

simonwolf

I watched the first episode of I, Zombie and it seemed okay for what it was? I should give it a few more episodes

Trace

Really if you haven't give the Mentalist a try. It's an excellent show.

simonwolf

whenever I see "mentalist" I think of that Alan Partridge bit

Solomaxwell6

simonwolf wrote: »

Who is the Lu Bu of Game of Thrones

I think Jaime is the best fit, but I was going back and forth between him and Gregor Clegane. Jaime fits the book version of Lu Bu a bit better, Gregor is a good match for the version you tend to see in movies or video games.

Fierce, well-trained warrior. Gains fame in an early military action (fight against the ten eunuchs/Kingswood Rebellion) that takes place before the real chaos starts. He ultimately betrays and kills his master, the strongest warlord of the time (Dong Zhuo/King Aerys). In the end, he mostly just cares about himself. He has his own political views, but is hopelessly outclassed on that front and mostly just leaves that kind of thinking to others. His decisions are influenced by a poorly chosen love interest (Diaochan/Cersei).

OnTheLastCastle

Guys I made $13/lb salmon and it was deliciousssssssss

http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/how-to-cook-salmon-pan-fry-fish-food-lab.html

Used this method and bought a fancy meat thermometer for it

Cinders

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

Guys I made $13/lb salmon and it was deliciousssssssss

http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/how-to-cook-salmon-pan-fry-fish-food-lab.html

Used this method and bought a fancy meat thermometer for it

You should try the Rock diet.

Get big

get huge

Grape Ape

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

Guys I made $13/lb salmon and it was deliciousssssssss

http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/how-to-cook-salmon-pan-fry-fish-food-lab.html

Used this method and bought a fancy meat thermometer for it

Uhhh microwave is good enough for Chef Boyardee and he's a chef. Are YOU a chef

Elldren

Vanguard wrote: »

Havelock2.0 wrote: »

I think the hardest thing in world building for a pnp RPG is the naming process for countries, geo features, continents, etc.

protip: don't world build

Your players will appreciate it when every npc they meet is named bob

Feral

RiemannLives wrote: »

ok so I have not read nor seen any of GoT ever (if it is ever finished I might), but if it turns out that - in the end - something like the following happens I will get my frown on so hard:

spoiled for wild guess based on no info whatsoever

suppose there is a character who is particularly cunning and an excellent commander but also an amoral bastard (maybe not outright "evil") who is for a time thwarted from victory by coalition(s) of other characters (especially ones seen as more "good"). And in the end, after he is dead, one of his children or grandchildren is overthrown in a coup by his longtime adviser and strategist and it is the child or grandchild of that adviser who eventually complete the conquest and re-unify the kingdoms.

@RiemannLives

Nothing in GoT is quite that on-the-nose. All of the characters who meet those archetypes are dead, castrated, or stripped of their lands and titles for whatever reasons. GRRM also really likes to subvert fan expectations. Setting up a character to be a fan favorite and then having that character meet some ignoble fate is his MO.

Feral

Psych's Twin Peaks tribute episode was fantastic.

kedinik

I'm having an uncommonly good Sunday.

Cleaned apartment, threw out garbage, washed dishes, laundered clothes, bought cheap groceries, jogged a few miles. Now watching Netflix and cooking food for the week.

I think this is Organichu's fault. Him and his dumb post about getting out of bed in the morning and having a good day.

OnTheLastCastle

Cinders wrote: »

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

Guys I made $13/lb salmon and it was deliciousssssssss

http://www.seriouseats.com/2012/06/how-to-cook-salmon-pan-fry-fish-food-lab.html

Used this method and bought a fancy meat thermometer for it

You should try the Rock diet.

Get big

get huge

Fish oil and fish are making me stronger!!!!

I keep thinking my weight loss has plateaued and then I check the data and actually lost 4 lbs in 6 weeks instead of 4 weeks. The humanity.

Thomamelas

Elldren wrote: »

Vanguard wrote: »

Havelock2.0 wrote: »

I think the hardest thing in world building for a pnp RPG is the naming process for countries, geo features, continents, etc.

protip: don't world build

Your players will appreciate it when every npc they meet is named bob

Pfft. If I set it on an island of people who won't talk about their past and with every NPC saying they are Bob Smith, or for amusement's sake variations on Smith you could use that to build paranoia. Add in random assassination attempts and repeated gaslighting and that could be a fun spy game.

Grape Ape

Elldren wrote: »

Vanguard wrote: »

Havelock2.0 wrote: »

I think the hardest thing in world building for a pnp RPG is the naming process for countries, geo features, continents, etc.

protip: don't world build

Your players will appreciate it when every npc they meet is named bob

Tbh, I am in a game right now with a pretty comprehensive world the GM set up, and it's completely lost on me; one elf name sounds like the next to my stub ears

OnTheLastCastle

Well game of thrones not ducking around. Excellent season opener and I'm only halfway through it. No spoilers just saying it's enjoyable and action packed!!

Grape Ape

I need some wholesome, Midwestern elf names like Pete or Mike or Glenn.

The Ender

Feral wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ok so I have not read nor seen any of GoT ever (if it is ever finished I might), but if it turns out that - in the end - something like the following happens I will get my frown on so hard:

spoiled for wild guess based on no info whatsoever

suppose there is a character who is particularly cunning and an excellent commander but also an amoral bastard (maybe not outright "evil") who is for a time thwarted from victory by coalition(s) of other characters (especially ones seen as more "good"). And in the end, after he is dead, one of his children or grandchildren is overthrown in a coup by his longtime adviser and strategist and it is the child or grandchild of that adviser who eventually complete the conquest and re-unify the kingdoms.

@RiemannLives

Nothing in GoT is quite that on-the-nose. All of the characters who meet those archetypes are dead, castrated, or stripped of their lands and titles for whatever reasons. GRRM also really likes to subvert fan expectations. Setting up a character to be a fan favorite and then having that character meet some ignoble fate is his MO.

That's kind of why I don't like GoT.


I want my Batman / Superman / Whomever that rises to the occasion at the end and beats evil.

It's not realistic and sometimes I might complain about the rote nature of it, but I still prefer that over what amounts to 'Real life sucks. Ha ha ha. Watch these characters all get shit on just like real life'.


Not judging people who do want that etc etc; just not my bag.

OnTheLastCastle

kedinik wrote: »

I'm having an uncommonly good Sunday.

Cleaned apartment, threw out garbage, washed dishes, laundered clothes, bought cheap groceries, jogged a few miles. Now watching Netflix and cooking food for the week.

I think this is Organichu's fault. Him and his dumb post about getting out of bed in the morning and having a good day.

I too was jealous of his excellent example

Kana

GoT has no Nobunaga yet because the country is still falling apart.

Although there are a bunch of crazy priests available for temple-burning, when someone gets around to it

dlinfiniti

Jacobkosh

RiemannLives wrote: »

milski wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

Jacobkosh wrote: »

the new Battletech Q&A went up a few days ago and it's pretty good stuff although, of course, lots of nerds don't know how game dev works and are like CAN YOU NEGOTIATE JUMPSHIP FEES? when the devs are talking about, like, prototyping the combat engine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nIgGrTo9vdk

The new initiative system they came up with sounds boss as fuck:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/webeharebrained/battletech/posts/1541543 wrote:

Here’s the basics:

- Each weight class of ‘Mech has an Initiative value. Light ‘Mechs are the fastest, with an Initiative of 4 and assaults are the slowest, with an Initiative of 1.

- Combat rounds are divided into 5 Phases, counting down from 5 to 1. ‘Mechs are allowed to act during the Phase that matches their Initiative. (That 5th Phase is the province of extremely skilled MechWarriors piloting Light ‘Mechs.)

- Each Phase, each side takes turns choosing a ‘Mech to Activate. When a Mech is Activated, it can both move and then fire its weapons. However, once the ‘Mech fires, its turn is over and it can’t act again until the next Round of combat.

- After you Activate a ‘Mech and take a turn, the game attempts to give the next action to the other side. If the enemy has units available to use in the current Phase, they get the opportunity to activate one of them. If, on the other hand, they have no more units they can activate in the phase, and you do, you’ll get to go again.

- This means that if you and your opponent are both using full lances of assault ‘Mechs, every Round will be pretty predictable: You’ll go, then your opponent will go, and so forth until all eight ‘Mechs have been Activated and have taken a turn.

When the game finishes counting down Initiative values and Phase 1 units have taken their turn, the Round ends. The Phase counter resets to 5, and every ‘Mech is ready to act again.
And now the really cool part:

We think this is a neat system because it reinforces and distinguishes between the different weight classes of ‘Mechs - but the place where it really becomes really interesting is when you start reserving ‘Mechs’ Phases for use later in the Round.

Any ‘Mech that isn’t an assault can be held in reserve when its turn to act comes up. That temporarily sets its Initiative Value one lower. So a Light ‘Mech that normally acts in Phase 4 will instead act in Phase 3.

With this system, you can keep reserving your ‘Mechs’ actions, holding an entire lance of ‘Mechs until Phase 1, if you wanted to.

What’s so interesting about reserving actions? First of all, consider the case of a whole lance of Light and medium ‘Mechs being reserved until Phase 1, where they’ll get to act right at the end of a Round. Then, when the round ends and a new Round starts, they’ll immediately get to act again in Phases 4 and 3! (This tactic isn’t theoretical - in a recent battle, I snuck up behind our Lead Designer Kevin’s Centurion with a Jenner I’d reserved to Phase 1. Then, on Phase 4 of the next Round I got to make a full alpha strike right into his back armor.)

As you’d guess, there’s also a lot of value in using this tactic to locally outnumber an opponent. You want your engagements to be uneven in your favor, and you want to be able to fall back from any engagement in which you’re outnumbered. Focusing your forces in one spot when your enemy is spread out is right out of Sun Tzu.

Our initiative system, which allows you to reserve units, means you can locally outnumber your enemy in time as well as space. If you can take three actions in a row, and all three actions are effective fire on a target with no chance for it to respond by moving or returning fire… you’ve essentially made part of the turn a 3-on-1 battle.

Conversely, reserving your faster ‘Mechs to break up long sequences of enemy action with opportunities to respond can be useful in preventing your own forces from becoming focus-fired.

We’re reinforcing the role of Light ‘Mechs in other ways, but this system is a significant component of their value. Light ‘Mechs get to choose where and when they engage, and if used carefully can be exactly the tool you need to get out of a bad situation. Heavy and assault ‘Mechs pack a much bigger punch, but the tradeoff is that they’re inherently more predictable - and thus are more often reacting than acting.

The crazy part is that this sounds like they may actually have found a solution that makes Light Mechs viable in tabletop. In the stories, lights are supposed to be scouts, artillery spotters, and so forth. They had a point. In the tabletop, they often just kind of took up space.

So the Death From Above RPG team has actually started test-driving this initiative system for their twitch stream tabletop games and it apparently works pretty well. I guess even the head of Battletech tabletop dev at Catalyst Game Labs is a fan.

I really like the idea that maybe at the end of all this we might have not just a cool video game but a souped-up Battletech tabletop game made with game design principles from after the 1980s.

I saw a good comment on the system that it might be cool to base the initiative phases off of max speed (or max speed + weight) rather than just weight class. It would cover cases where you have an unusually fast heavy (like the 3025 era Dragon) or clunky light (Urbie). Since the Dragon, for example, has to give up a ton of firepower for that speed it seems like it would be good to bump it into a higher initiative bracket.

What other advantages/disadvantages are there for weight class? Like, I'm assuming the fast, low firepower heavy still has something to differentiate itself from being a mid-class or w/e.

So there's two ways of looking at it for tabletop battletech (and I fully expect, and hope, things work a bit different in the computer game they are working on, its a different medium): there are the construction rules and then there are the pre-made mech designs.

Going just by the construction rules there isn't any clear divider into the 4 standard weight classes. A 35 ton light is potentially very very similar to a 40 ton medium. Most of the formulas for engine weight, speed, jump jet capability etc... are based on the total weight (usually in 5 ton increments) not what class you are in.

That said, there does tend to be more of a distinction in the roles and loadouts between the weight classes of mechs from the fiction. The mech designs in the books are deliberately sub optimal (even terrible at times) compared to what you can make with the construction rules. This is deliberate. Mechs in the books tend to have loadouts that conform - more or less - with the roles for light / medium / heavy / assault.

@RiemannLives they bring up heavy lights and light heavies at one point during the video. Their answer was that they wanted to reinforce stricter divisions between weight classes, they didn't want to double-tap speed as a priority too much (it's already important to have a lot of movement to get into flanking etc and a fast heavy still has a big advantage that way) but also they felt that it makes in-fiction sense for a heavy with a more horsepower than normal engine to still go on the heavy turn because it takes time to get all that mass up to speed, while a slower but lighter Urbanmech might have better acceleration in the short term.

Regarding the other conversation: they've said that they are trying hard to make each chassis feel genuinely unique and not just a skin pasted over a collection of armor values and weapon tonnages. They are still exploring possibilities in that area but it sounds like fixed hard point types are one thing they're seriously considering (so your 20 SRM chest holes don't suddenly magically become a PPC).

wandering

21stCentury wrote: »

i am now officially posting from my hip bachelor pad.

groovy, baby.

Gazing

Ahh I am glad in started playing this game again. I forgot that it was actually kinda fun

Grape Ape

Neco wrote: »

Ahh I am glad in started playing this game again. I forgot that it was actually kinda fun

The new story stuff is great! Sucks that it's tied into a a dated mmo, but $15 to burn through an okay star wars game with a pretty decent plot isn't bad!

Jacobkosh

@Neco I came back to TOR last year and found it much improved over launch and I hear that the new story is basically KOTOR III and mostly singleplayer and that really gets my nose for mysteries twitching something fierce. I will probably venture back into it sometime this year.

Athenor

According to MFP, I'm below 2000 calories for the day (goal is 3300 or so). I should probably just slam down a PB & J so I don't go into shock in the morning and feel sick.

Feral

The Ender wrote: »

Feral wrote: »

RiemannLives wrote: »

ok so I have not read nor seen any of GoT ever (if it is ever finished I might), but if it turns out that - in the end - something like the following happens I will get my frown on so hard:

spoiled for wild guess based on no info whatsoever

suppose there is a character who is particularly cunning and an excellent commander but also an amoral bastard (maybe not outright "evil") who is for a time thwarted from victory by coalition(s) of other characters (especially ones seen as more "good"). And in the end, after he is dead, one of his children or grandchildren is overthrown in a coup by his longtime adviser and strategist and it is the child or grandchild of that adviser who eventually complete the conquest and re-unify the kingdoms.

@RiemannLives

Nothing in GoT is quite that on-the-nose. All of the characters who meet those archetypes are dead, castrated, or stripped of their lands and titles for whatever reasons. GRRM also really likes to subvert fan expectations. Setting up a character to be a fan favorite and then having that character meet some ignoble fate is his MO.

That's kind of why I don't like GoT.


I want my Batman / Superman / Whomever that rises to the occasion at the end and beats evil.

It's not realistic and sometimes I might complain about the rote nature of it, but I still prefer that over what amounts to 'Real life sucks. Ha ha ha. Watch these characters all get shit on just like real life'.


Not judging people who do want that etc etc; just not my bag.

Hmmm. Bad-ass characters who rise to the occasion and beat evil are very much present in GoT. There are plenty of opportunities to (metaphorically) clap your hands and raise your fists and say "fuck yeah! kick some ass!" It's not all gloom and doom and eat at Arby's.

But, to corroborate what you're saying, those characters are still mortal. They make mistakes, they die. Sometimes they die a valiant death in the heat of battle. Sometimes they die because they were stabbed in the back.

Elldren

Thomamelas wrote: »

Elldren wrote: »

Vanguard wrote: »

Havelock2.0 wrote: »

I think the hardest thing in world building for a pnp RPG is the naming process for countries, geo features, continents, etc.

protip: don't world build

Your players will appreciate it when every npc they meet is named bob

Pfft. If I set it on an island of people who won't talk about their past and with every NPC saying they are Bob Smith, or for amusement's sake variations on Smith you could use that to build paranoia. Add in random assassination attempts and repeated gaslighting and that could be a fun spy game.

Jacobkosh wrote: »

@Neco I came back to TOR last year and found it much improved over launch and I hear that the new story is basically KOTOR III and mostly singleplayer and that really gets my nose for mysteries twitching something fierce. I will probably venture back into it sometime this year.

I might too since I'm in a Star Wars mood

evilbob

Left my league rally runs til last minute with no practice. Tagged a few walls and went straight on at a hairpin on last stage. Still got 14th out of 67. Still fastest in a ford escort mk II.

OnTheLastCastle

Athenor wrote: »

According to MFP, I'm below 2000 calories for the day (goal is 3300 or so). I should probably just slam down a PB & J so I don't go into shock in the morning and feel sick.

Don't eat if you're not hungry.... =\ not sure if serious........

Drink water.

3,300 calories would make me put on weight doing very heavy weight lifting per day also...

But good work being below your goal!

Athenor

OnTheLastCastle wrote: »

Athenor wrote: »

According to MFP, I'm below 2000 calories for the day (goal is 3300 or so). I should probably just slam down a PB & J so I don't go into shock in the morning and feel sick.

Don't eat if you're not hungry.... =\ not sure if serious........

Drink water.

3,300 calories would make me put on weight doing very heavy weight lifting per day also...

But good work being below your goal!

I was a little hungry and light headed. I've been drinking a TON of water.