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Captain America: Civil War [OPEN SPOILERS, BEWARE!!!]
There were some complaints about shakey-cam earlier in the thread, but to me while I was watching the movie it was just another confirmation that the time for 24 frames-per-second is long over. It's just ridiculous that we're still using that framerate and that there's such resistance to increasing it.
It makes fast action almost unwatchable, but it's bad for slow steady scenes as well. I noticed it during The Enigma Code for fuck's sake. Just a straight slow pan of a scene becomes a strobey blur.
Anyone who plays games knows that 24 fps is dogshit and mostly unacceptable. It's time that attitude came to film as well. I saw the last Hobbit movie in high-fps 3D, and yeah it's super weird at first, but that's only because we've been conditioned to associate 24-fps with "movie". It'll take time for it to not be weird. But, it made an incredible difference in clarity and fluidity of motion. I'm hoping that James Cameron can do with high-fps what he did with 3D* and that we can get out of the flip-book dark ages of barely-enough-fps-to-perceive-motion we've been in for far too long.
* In that he made the concept popular. In practice I hate the crappy post-production 3D that has become the norm.
I haven't seen it again, but I didn't have an issue with it. Maybe if I do a side by side or upon a re-watch I'd noticed it, but 24 works fine for me still it seems. But then I just recently gave up on CRT monitors...
The only trouble I had following the action was during the chase sequences in Lagos. Everything else I thought was fine.
There were a few points where it was literally just "and here's where the cameraman shrugged aaaaand back to previous position." Shakeycam is annoying but rarely bothers me, but that first sequence? Hoy.
... and once again the price for Most Stupid Foreign Title of a Movie goes to Germany: I just found out that they called the three Captain America films as follows:
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Return of the First Avenger
The First Avenger: Civil War
... which I guess is still better than Thor: The Dark World being changed to Thor: The Dark Kingdom for the German market. You gotta love how for the German-speaking market they change an English title into... a different English title.
Thirith on
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Super good. Christ it's impressive they can make a movie with about 12 characters and it works flawlessly and nothing feels contrived or out of place. This really is the pinnacle of the MCU so far, by a long way. It makes Ultron look like a sloppy mess. It even brings in 2 entirely new (to the MCU) heroes and covers their origins without breaking the flow or tension of the film's story, which is somehow entirely self-contained yet still deeply connected to everything preceding it.
We can only hope the DCU get's it's shit together half as much as this.
A+ will continue watching the MCU for another decade.
... and once again the price for Most Stupid Foreign Title of a Movie goes to Germany: I just found out that they called the three Captain America films as follows:
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Return of the First Avenger
The First Avenger: Civil War
... which I guess is still better than Thor: The Dark World being changed to Thor: The Dark Kingdom for the German market. You gotta love how for the German-speaking market they change an English title into... a different English title.
Oh, I thought that was a list of German titles translated back into English. Because yeah, changing English titles into different English titles makes zero sense.
Anyway, you need to time-travel back to 80s-90s Quebec and see the random shit they changed titles to. Translated back into English, some off the top of my head include:
Airplane! -> Is there a pilot in the plane?
Gilligan's Island -> The happy marooned
Coming to America -> A prince in New York
Alien -> The stranger
A nightmare on Elm street -> The claws of night
Eh, only Tony so far knows who he is. It isn't impossible to keep Peter's identity secret as long as he stays in the suit and doesn't talk to people who know him.
What's awesome is this absolutely opens up the idea that Tony probably knows explicitly about Matt, Jessica, Luke and soon to be Danny when they are doing their shit in New York as well.
I wouldn't be shocked if there was a registration episode in one of the Netflix series coming up. It would fit with the way the Netflix shows handle the continuity - the Avengers destruction led to Kingpin and the Jessica Jones "survivor revenge" episode that also draws on the Avengers.
Because yeah, changing English titles into different English titles makes zero sense.
There are plenty of those, e.g. Kill the Boss (= Bad Bosses), Girls Club (= Mean Girls), 96 Hours (= Taken) or Unknown Identity (= Unknown; seems that Liam Neeson flicks are especially prone to this). The idea seems to be that English is cool but the original title won't be clear to German speakers...
Edit: They also seem to like adding English taglines to the original title to create a new, cumbersome 'German' title.
Thirith on
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
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ShadowfireVermont, in the middle of nowhereRegistered Userregular
... and once again the price for Most Stupid Foreign Title of a Movie goes to Germany: I just found out that they called the three Captain America films as follows:
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Return of the First Avenger
The First Avenger: Civil War
... which I guess is still better than Thor: The Dark World being changed to Thor: The Dark Kingdom for the German market. You gotta love how for the German-speaking market they change an English title into... a different English title.
Oh, I thought that was a list of German titles translated back into English. Because yeah, changing English titles into different English titles makes zero sense.
Anyway, you need to time-travel back to 80s-90s Quebec and see the random shit they changed titles to. Translated back into English, some off the top of my head include:
Airplane! -> Is there a pilot in the plane?
Gilligan's Island -> The happy marooned
Coming to America -> A prince in New York
Alien -> The stranger
A nightmare on Elm street -> The claws of night
... and once again the price for Most Stupid Foreign Title of a Movie goes to Germany: I just found out that they called the three Captain America films as follows:
Captain America: The First Avenger
The Return of the First Avenger
The First Avenger: Civil War
... which I guess is still better than Thor: The Dark World being changed to Thor: The Dark Kingdom for the German market. You gotta love how for the German-speaking market they change an English title into... a different English title.
Oh, I thought that was a list of German titles translated back into English. Because yeah, changing English titles into different English titles makes zero sense.
Anyway, you need to time-travel back to 80s-90s Quebec and see the random shit they changed titles to. Translated back into English, some off the top of my head include:
Airplane! -> Is there a pilot in the plane?
Gilligan's Island -> The happy marooned
Coming to America -> A prince in New York
Alien -> The stranger
A nightmare on Elm street -> The claws of night
It's in English on the movie poster as "The First Avenger: Civil War".
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daveNYCWhy universe hate Waspinator?Registered Userregular
Kinda makes me wonder, if the German audience is not very enamored with Captain America the character name, by the time you're on the third movie is leaving his name off really going to trick them into seeing it?
Kinda makes me wonder, if the German audience is not very enamored with Captain America the character name, by the time you're on the third movie is leaving his name off really going to trick them into seeing it?
Most people call him "Steve" or "Captain" in the films.
I remember seeing the weird title switch tradition for the first time in the late '90s maybe early 2000s.
Cradle 2 The Gave -> Born 2 Die
I mean, it's not wrong, but...
Also yes, when Winter Soldier came along and got changed to the British tagline (!) I had the same thought as Jeeps, but now I think the marketing department just wants to have The Avengers in the title, no matter what.
Kinda makes me wonder, if the German audience is not very enamored with Captain America the character name, by the time you're on the third movie is leaving his name off really going to trick them into seeing it?
Most people call him "Steve" or "Captain" in the films.
In the first film they literally have a song and dance number calling him Captain America.
Kinda makes me wonder, if the German audience is not very enamored with Captain America the character name, by the time you're on the third movie is leaving his name off really going to trick them into seeing it?
Most people call him "Steve" or "Captain" in the films.
In the first film they literally have a song and dance number calling him Captain America.
By this point, there's no fooling anyone.
The first film, where they call him Captain America in the title?
Kinda makes me wonder, if the German audience is not very enamored with Captain America the character name, by the time you're on the third movie is leaving his name off really going to trick them into seeing it?
Most people call him "Steve" or "Captain" in the films.
well i think that clip shows that his "friends" call him steve or cap, but that anyone else is probably Captain America...so "the other 7billion+ people know him as captain america, doesn't the red skull kind of mock that name even in TFA?
Kinda makes me wonder, if the German audience is not very enamored with Captain America the character name, by the time you're on the third movie is leaving his name off really going to trick them into seeing it?
Most people call him "Steve" or "Captain" in the films.
In the first film they literally have a song and dance number calling him Captain America.
By this point, there's no fooling anyone.
They were lampshading it, though. In-universe, Captain America was a fictional character until Steve adopted the name and the look, and the only people who actually call him that are either starstruck or mocking him with it.
If SHIELD is conducting a manhunt for Captain America, we deserve to know why.
It's a thing he's known by, but is only really used in the context of referring to him as a larger-than-life hero. Another example would be the museum exhibits describing his WWII exploits. He's an icon by that name, but the movies (other than FA) usually deal with him as an individual rather than as an icon.
So what I'm saying is, I think the German titles for the movies are weird.
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jefe414"My Other Drill Hole is a Teleporter"Mechagodzilla is Best GodzillaRegistered Userregular
I took it as the public at large calling him/knowing him mostly as Captain America, fellow professionals called him Captain Rogers, friends called him Cap or Steve.
Ya for all the wacky science bending and stuff MCU does, Fury having a full out fully staffed Helicarrier falls way more towards the " Ya , sounds about right" side of the line heh
So, uh, what happened to Fury and his new helicarrier? The one that saved a shit ton of Sokovian lives?
Is that not a.thing anymore? I thought that meant SHIELD wSs back in action.
I imagine those things need to spend like nine months in drydock for every hour of operation. They can't be all that practical.
That's OG Stark-Tech, son.
It probably does laps around the equator for a morning warm-up.
Stark designs were a part of the Insight Helicarriers; the original one we don't know if he worked on at all. (He was a consultant for SHIELD, so he may have. It apparently had a Iron Man bay in it.)
So, uh, what happened to Fury and his new helicarrier? The one that saved a shit ton of Sokovian lives?
Is that not a.thing anymore? I thought that meant SHIELD wSs back in action.
I imagine those things need to spend like nine months in drydock for every hour of operation. They can't be all that practical.
That's OG Stark-Tech, son.
It probably does laps around the equator for a morning warm-up.
Stark designs were a part of the Insight Helicarriers; the original one we don't know if he worked on at all. (He was a consultant for SHIELD, so he may have. It apparently had a Iron Man bay in it.)
I was mostly joking about old man Stark.
Based on how every piece of mildly fantastical tech is either Stark, Hydra or secretly Pym.
The fact that Fury is a live is probably still a secret. The Helicarrier would have to be in hiding too since SHIELD was never restored to legitimacy. Even in AoS, the US government has only chosen not to hunt them down but hasn't given them any official pardon or powers.
Although, it's kind of unclear how much of the events of the movies are public knowledge, or even known to the government. When you think about it, no one would really know that Scarlet Witch and Tony Stark are responsible for the creation of Ultron. For all the world knows, Ultron was either a Hydra project or some kind of alien AI that came out of nowhere and hijacked Tony's tech. People would only know Scarlet Witch and Tony's involvement if the Avengers told them about it.
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He would have stolen the show if not for Black Panther.
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I don't know, Paul Rudd's Antman is rocking it pretty hard. Never thought I would be a Antman fan but between his movie and his appearance in this?
It makes fast action almost unwatchable, but it's bad for slow steady scenes as well. I noticed it during The Enigma Code for fuck's sake. Just a straight slow pan of a scene becomes a strobey blur.
Anyone who plays games knows that 24 fps is dogshit and mostly unacceptable. It's time that attitude came to film as well. I saw the last Hobbit movie in high-fps 3D, and yeah it's super weird at first, but that's only because we've been conditioned to associate 24-fps with "movie". It'll take time for it to not be weird. But, it made an incredible difference in clarity and fluidity of motion. I'm hoping that James Cameron can do with high-fps what he did with 3D* and that we can get out of the flip-book dark ages of barely-enough-fps-to-perceive-motion we've been in for far too long.
* In that he made the concept popular. In practice I hate the crappy post-production 3D that has become the norm.
There were a few points where it was literally just "and here's where the cameraman shrugged aaaaand back to previous position." Shakeycam is annoying but rarely bothers me, but that first sequence? Hoy.
... which I guess is still better than Thor: The Dark World being changed to Thor: The Dark Kingdom for the German market. You gotta love how for the German-speaking market they change an English title into... a different English title.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
Super good. Christ it's impressive they can make a movie with about 12 characters and it works flawlessly and nothing feels contrived or out of place. This really is the pinnacle of the MCU so far, by a long way. It makes Ultron look like a sloppy mess. It even brings in 2 entirely new (to the MCU) heroes and covers their origins without breaking the flow or tension of the film's story, which is somehow entirely self-contained yet still deeply connected to everything preceding it.
We can only hope the DCU get's it's shit together half as much as this.
A+ will continue watching the MCU for another decade.
Oh, I thought that was a list of German titles translated back into English. Because yeah, changing English titles into different English titles makes zero sense.
Anyway, you need to time-travel back to 80s-90s Quebec and see the random shit they changed titles to. Translated back into English, some off the top of my head include:
Airplane! -> Is there a pilot in the plane?
Gilligan's Island -> The happy marooned
Coming to America -> A prince in New York
Alien -> The stranger
A nightmare on Elm street -> The claws of night
I wouldn't be shocked if there was a registration episode in one of the Netflix series coming up. It would fit with the way the Netflix shows handle the continuity - the Avengers destruction led to Kingpin and the Jessica Jones "survivor revenge" episode that also draws on the Avengers.
Edit: They also seem to like adding English taglines to the original title to create a new, cumbersome 'German' title.
"Nothing is gonna save us forever but a lot of things can save us today." - Night in the Woods
That Airplane! change is pretty good.
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Most of Fury Road was shot by cameras mounted on trucks.
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It's in English on the movie poster as "The First Avenger: Civil War".
Mounted on a fancy-pants crane. The Edge Arm appears to have been pretty new tech when Fury Road was made.
Most people call him "Steve" or "Captain" in the films.
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Cradle 2 The Gave -> Born 2 Die
I mean, it's not wrong, but...
Also yes, when Winter Soldier came along and got changed to the British tagline (!) I had the same thought as Jeeps, but now I think the marketing department just wants to have The Avengers in the title, no matter what.
In the first film they literally have a song and dance number calling him Captain America.
By this point, there's no fooling anyone.
The first film, where they call him Captain America in the title?
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They were lampshading it, though. In-universe, Captain America was a fictional character until Steve adopted the name and the look, and the only people who actually call him that are either starstruck or mocking him with it.
It's a thing he's known by, but is only really used in the context of referring to him as a larger-than-life hero. Another example would be the museum exhibits describing his WWII exploits. He's an icon by that name, but the movies (other than FA) usually deal with him as an individual rather than as an icon.
So what I'm saying is, I think the German titles for the movies are weird.
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Is that not a.thing anymore? I thought that meant SHIELD wSs back in action.
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It wasn't a new helicarrier, it was an old helicarrier.
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Wait, that is totally what he'd be doing.
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Because, C'mon it's Sam Jackson.
( Fury would also have some resources)
I imagine those things need to spend like nine months in drydock for every hour of operation. They can't be all that practical.
That's OG Stark-Tech, son.
It probably does laps around the equator for a morning warm-up.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
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Stark designs were a part of the Insight Helicarriers; the original one we don't know if he worked on at all. (He was a consultant for SHIELD, so he may have. It apparently had a Iron Man bay in it.)
Based on how every piece of mildly fantastical tech is either Stark, Hydra or secretly Pym.
They tried to bury us. They didn't know that we were seeds. 2018 Midterms. Get your shit together.
Although, it's kind of unclear how much of the events of the movies are public knowledge, or even known to the government. When you think about it, no one would really know that Scarlet Witch and Tony Stark are responsible for the creation of Ultron. For all the world knows, Ultron was either a Hydra project or some kind of alien AI that came out of nowhere and hijacked Tony's tech. People would only know Scarlet Witch and Tony's involvement if the Avengers told them about it.