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Penny Arcade - Comic - Dialectic
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Videogaming-related online strip by Mike Krahulik and Jerry Holkins. Includes news and commentary.
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Not sure I see this. Torchlight was an indie, cartoony lootcrawler that was tons of fun, but it was the exact same genre of Diablo. They were at a core level very similar game, but with stylistic differences.
I'm not familiar enough with Battleborn to speak to it, but I will say that the Overwatch is fantastic. I'm not even usually much of a fan of the genre, but gave the Overwatch beta a chance because the game's design just looked so good. From levels to character design it's all beautiful. And over the course of the weekend I went from luke warm about the game, to having a lot of fun but unsure if it would hold my interest for more than a couple of weeks, to pre-ordering it with no regrets.
In other news, is Gabe down on the art style or the gameplay for this one? The art reminds me of WildStar and I can't remember if he liked WildStar's art direction or loathed it.
Maybe your tastes have just changed.
No big deal. It happens.
But it doesn't mean the content here has gotten worse.
However, my Blizzard fandom is elevated above all else, and unfortunately for Gearbox, their close proximity release to a Blizzard game has eliminated Battleborn from my radar. I did not play the Battleborn beta. I have not watched videos on it. I haven't looked at character spotlights or any other marketing. And that is simply because there is not enough time for both, and Blizzard is going to win every time.
Maybe one day in the future I'll give Battleborn a chance. When it's $20 and it isn't competing for my time with anything else.
Ooh, burn! You've really roasted your own sense of humor with this brutal comment.
Yeah, it's almost as though the discussion topic is more defined than usual.
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I both laughed and cringed at that one. Feels like I just watched a round of Cards Against Humanity play out.
There the same genre in that they are both FPS with unique heroes to choose from. Its like saying that WoW and DOTA are the same game because you control it from the top down and have abilities you cast from an action bar. Or that Team Fortress 2 and Monday Night Combat are the same games because they are 3rd person and have classes.
Overwatch is the natural evolution of TF2, a class based team shooter
BB is the natural evolution of MNC, a class based moba
MOBAs are different enough from team shooters that they have their own genres.
I just worry that all this comparison between BB and Overwatch will prevent players who would like BB from ever giving it a second glance because "Overwatch is clearly better!" when its just wrong to even compare the two, imo.
This comic has layers.
"I am compelled to shoot!"
I think that just means they really really like Blizzard games and they also really really like Overwatch
What kind of person, being paid to hype a product would say: "don't listen to me, I've been paid to hype this product"?
"I am compelled to shoot!"
I don't know if you know much about shilling, but typically they don't actually tell you.
I think you are talking about this: https://www.penny-arcade.com/overwatchftw
Which doesn't mean they are "paid and pocket in Blizz camp."
I mean they do events and stuff for all types of games at PAX...
"I'm just saying that so they'll pay us. Shit, now I won't get paid!"
An honest human being aka a unicorn.
An awesome one?
I suspect they prefer Overwatch (because it is way better a game), but Tycho is adding that comment for full disclosure.
What a concept!
only if they agree with me
if they have a different opinion, it can't possibly be an honest one
I don't necessarily disagree with the assertion that Battleborn and Overwatch are different genres. What I will take issue with is calling Battleborn a MOBA. Technically speaking, that's correct, but it's not at all what we consider MOBAs to be - DOTA, LoL, HON, etc.
It tried to be different and it tried to be a MOBA and it failed utterly, and that's the issue. The point is that for most, it is closer to Overwatch than it is to LoL. When we were at PSX, I waited in line with a bunch of people who obviously had MOBA experience, and we shook our heads for long periods of time. After playing both there and in the beta later, it felt like a mockery when they defined it by the MOBA tag.
The fact that it's hard to tell at it's face (and playing) that it's a MOBA and not a hero shooter, is a big issue.
The best I ever saw it defined as was a "Hero Arena". So maybe it's it's own thing, but it tries super hard to be a MOBA and fails, and then anyone who thinks it's a shooter will be disappointed.
We're somewhere in the middle, where no one will get what they expect, because they're not sure what to expect, and will likely be discarded by those who might have found it interesting.
I'm sort of disappointed that the comic addressed the fact that people were comparing the two, and not addressing the fact that the terrible direction of Battleborn made it possible to confuse them.
That's a bigger issue to me than the other.