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USA Presidential Election 2016: Over the Hegemony
Sterica
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The President of the country that invented the Slinky is arguably one of the most powerful positions a single human being can occupy. And every four years we have a big pissing contest over who gets to hold it. Right now we're wrapping up the primary process that determines the person each party will offer up as their candidate. The Republican contest is over, with Donald Trump the only candidate remaining in the race. The Democratic race is still on, with California being the last major contest. While Clinton is favored to win, Sanders has been putting up a better fight than expected.
Things to Consider Before Posting
In the Blue Corner...
The democratic primary is still on! Here are the remaining candidates...
Hillary "Queen Bee" Clinton
68 Years Old
Former Secretary of State and Senator; Grammy Winner
Strengths: A very serious and bog standard politician, which is an asset when the opposition is a clown. She's also possesses a massive war chest, having gotten some ridiculous number exceeding $250 million. The primary has shown that she does well with a diverse range of voting demographics, especially women voters for obvious reasons. Her name is attached to two presidencies that are held in fairly high regard, particularly Obama's since she does offer an option to essentially continue his more-or-less popular administration.
Weaknesses: Bog standard politician. She has enough skeletons in her closet, both perceived and real, to supply an anatomy class. In a race full of eccentric personalities, she's the very dull, strictly business type. Worse, attempts at warmth are usually seen for the transparent pandering that they are. While she regrets Iraq, she nonetheless has a interventionist attitude towards foreign policy. When coupled with her chummy relationship with corporations, a notable portion of the base has already decided to sit this one out.
Bernie "Colonel" Sanders
74 Years Old
Senator, Former Representative and Mayor; Folk Musician
Strengths: Provides a more left-leaning alternative to Clinton that the a chunk of the base wants, notably the younger demographic. Has the wealth gap as the centerpiece of his campaign, which is a plus when capitalism is screwing over most of the planet.
Weakness: Had to overcome the serious disadvantage of being a virtual nobody compared to several heavyweights names. Tends to tunnel vision on the whole class warfare thing, which leaves some people feeling left in the cold. Has struggled with getting the vote from persons of color. His opponent's victory is seen as increasingly inevitable, with intense pressure for him to drop out for "the good of the party."
In the Red Corner...
"Ronald Mc"Donald Trump
69 Years Old
Meets the Constitutional Requirements; John Miller's Best Friend
Strengths: Has shades of being the "true conservative" candidate the party has been pining for since 2008. Bombastic style combined with simple speeches gives him broad appeal. Has shown to be somewhat more left-leaning (relatively speaking) on some issues such as healthcare and transgender rights, which could appeal to moderates.
Weaknesses: Policies are almost entirely bullshit conjured up as red meat for the base. When pressed for details you will get mealy-mouthed responses that are just more bullshit. Does well with whites....and poorly with just about everyone else. Is, quite frankly, a bizarre man, with new weird details about his life coming up every few weeks from pretending to be a publicist to creepy comments about his daughter. Is not self-funding campaign, meaning he's relying on the party to support him...and while Joe Six Pack loves him, the party elites despise him. This is a problem when you've opted to depend on them for financing your campaign.
FAQ
When are the conventions?
Republican: July 18th-21st
Democratic: July 25th-28th
Expect running mates to be announced or leaked a week or two prior.
Isn't Clinton in trouble with the FBI?
Her server woes have been a source of scandal and fodder for Republicans. While an indictment would effectively kill her campaign, it seems highly unlikely considering that the DNC hasn't been that good at hiding their support for Clinton over Sanders. There's no way the DNC would risk backing a criminal if they felt any chance of something sticking.
What's a superdelegate?
A group of prominent democrats that get to vote in the primary. They have been controversial, as they make it that much harder for outsider or "dark horse" candidates to win, and they raise the question of how democratic this is if the party wields so much influence. However, superdelegates have never decided a race, as they are fickle fair-weather creatures that can change their vote at any point up until the convention. Many superdelegates switched their vote to Obama in 2008 once it became clear he was the frontrunner. However, it's still a hotly debated issue, as even the illusion that one candidate has an overwhelming advantage over another can hurt things like voter turnout.
What's a battleground?
A state that is polling more or less in the middle is considered a battleground. Because solidly Republican or Democratic states would require too much time and money to make even a dent in polls, candidates focus on the handful of states that are feasible to turn. Now, this doesn't mean that voting in a "stronghold" state is pointless. After all, many battleground states were at one point or another considered reliable votes for one party or the other, and people do pay attention to shifts in polls even if the overall outcome hasn't quite changed yet.
When are the debates?
September 26, 2016
October 4, 2016 (VP)
October 9, 2016
October 19, 2016
When is Election Day?
November 8th, 2016
How long do I have to register to vote?
It varies by state
Things to Consider Before Posting
- Resist the urge to dogpile unpopular sentiments. If it's really inflammatory then report it.
- Just because somebody is/isn't voting doesn't mean they are personally responsible for the downfall of democracy.
- This is SE++ so don't get hung up on derails, especially since this is the slow part of the election cycle.
In the Blue Corner...
The democratic primary is still on! Here are the remaining candidates...
Hillary "Queen Bee" Clinton
68 Years Old
Former Secretary of State and Senator; Grammy Winner
Strengths: A very serious and bog standard politician, which is an asset when the opposition is a clown. She's also possesses a massive war chest, having gotten some ridiculous number exceeding $250 million. The primary has shown that she does well with a diverse range of voting demographics, especially women voters for obvious reasons. Her name is attached to two presidencies that are held in fairly high regard, particularly Obama's since she does offer an option to essentially continue his more-or-less popular administration.
Weaknesses: Bog standard politician. She has enough skeletons in her closet, both perceived and real, to supply an anatomy class. In a race full of eccentric personalities, she's the very dull, strictly business type. Worse, attempts at warmth are usually seen for the transparent pandering that they are. While she regrets Iraq, she nonetheless has a interventionist attitude towards foreign policy. When coupled with her chummy relationship with corporations, a notable portion of the base has already decided to sit this one out.
Bernie "Colonel" Sanders
74 Years Old
Senator, Former Representative and Mayor; Folk Musician
Strengths: Provides a more left-leaning alternative to Clinton that the a chunk of the base wants, notably the younger demographic. Has the wealth gap as the centerpiece of his campaign, which is a plus when capitalism is screwing over most of the planet.
Weakness: Had to overcome the serious disadvantage of being a virtual nobody compared to several heavyweights names. Tends to tunnel vision on the whole class warfare thing, which leaves some people feeling left in the cold. Has struggled with getting the vote from persons of color. His opponent's victory is seen as increasingly inevitable, with intense pressure for him to drop out for "the good of the party."
In the Red Corner...
"Ronald Mc"Donald Trump
69 Years Old
Meets the Constitutional Requirements; John Miller's Best Friend
Strengths: Has shades of being the "true conservative" candidate the party has been pining for since 2008. Bombastic style combined with simple speeches gives him broad appeal. Has shown to be somewhat more left-leaning (relatively speaking) on some issues such as healthcare and transgender rights, which could appeal to moderates.
Weaknesses: Policies are almost entirely bullshit conjured up as red meat for the base. When pressed for details you will get mealy-mouthed responses that are just more bullshit. Does well with whites....and poorly with just about everyone else. Is, quite frankly, a bizarre man, with new weird details about his life coming up every few weeks from pretending to be a publicist to creepy comments about his daughter. Is not self-funding campaign, meaning he's relying on the party to support him...and while Joe Six Pack loves him, the party elites despise him. This is a problem when you've opted to depend on them for financing your campaign.
FAQ
When are the conventions?
Republican: July 18th-21st
Democratic: July 25th-28th
Expect running mates to be announced or leaked a week or two prior.
Isn't Clinton in trouble with the FBI?
Her server woes have been a source of scandal and fodder for Republicans. While an indictment would effectively kill her campaign, it seems highly unlikely considering that the DNC hasn't been that good at hiding their support for Clinton over Sanders. There's no way the DNC would risk backing a criminal if they felt any chance of something sticking.
What's a superdelegate?
A group of prominent democrats that get to vote in the primary. They have been controversial, as they make it that much harder for outsider or "dark horse" candidates to win, and they raise the question of how democratic this is if the party wields so much influence. However, superdelegates have never decided a race, as they are fickle fair-weather creatures that can change their vote at any point up until the convention. Many superdelegates switched their vote to Obama in 2008 once it became clear he was the frontrunner. However, it's still a hotly debated issue, as even the illusion that one candidate has an overwhelming advantage over another can hurt things like voter turnout.
What's a battleground?
A state that is polling more or less in the middle is considered a battleground. Because solidly Republican or Democratic states would require too much time and money to make even a dent in polls, candidates focus on the handful of states that are feasible to turn. Now, this doesn't mean that voting in a "stronghold" state is pointless. After all, many battleground states were at one point or another considered reliable votes for one party or the other, and people do pay attention to shifts in polls even if the overall outcome hasn't quite changed yet.
When are the debates?
September 26, 2016
October 4, 2016 (VP)
October 9, 2016
October 19, 2016
When is Election Day?
November 8th, 2016
How long do I have to register to vote?
It varies by state
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What's the food like there?
What're the bathrooms like?
Which convention has the most people hooking up?
pleasepaypreacher.net
Clown recognizes clown.
i've never been but i'll hazard some guesses
1) terrible and expensive
2) democratic: crowded and messy, republican: crowded, messy, VIOLENTLY POLICED
3) democratic convention (unless you're an old gay dude on the DL in which case repub all the way)
3DS: 2981-5304-3227
pleasepaypreacher.net
But what if they convince us that killing ourselves off is the right thing to do?
:rotate:
it's a lot of old men so yeah, lots of BDSM fans
Ken Star is an evil ninja.
It's not surprising, sadly
There has to be a certain subset of people for whom Shkreli's endorsement is a positive thing, right?
Cite?
Because this is some grade A bullshit if true.
...how?
And is the best response to such threats to capitulate to them?
Going by Twitter it was announced 15m ago via Maddow.
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it's like in action movie where the grossly outnumbered protagonist is told to surrender
who then responds in kind
only not nearly as cool
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Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
I don't know, I'm not familiar enough with the rules to know how they would exploit them. And honestly the DNC should just kick his people off those committees since they've made it clear they don't intend to participate in good faith.
?
Sigh.
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I want this frikkin' nomination crap over, like, yesterday
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Twitter (mean leftist discourse)
Didn't the DNC do them a favor in the first place by letting them name 5 representatives to the convention? Or was that to a different committee?
3DS: 2981-5304-3227
Seriously?
Why?
He backed Clinton therefore he's not a real liberal
He and Bernie plain don't like each other. The letter sent to the DNC about this gives details about why he should be removed.
The letter
Said letter.
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that's a feat, alright
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