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    KanaKana Registered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    so i just read about another hot-female-teacher-boning-young-teen thing and so as i get through the article i see something i've never seen before in a story like this: his parents knew (24 y/o teacher, 13 y/o boy), approved, and often invited her over for dinner since she was his girlfriend

    *wipes sweat off forehead*

    What's insulting to me is that what this woman did is terrible, but because of how our society views older woman and under age male its all back slaps and "Yeah man she's hot." No she's a fucking predator who groomed her victim, there is nothing "hot" about what she did and she should get a lengthy prison sentence.

    I'm much more ambivalent when it's some story about a teacher getting sentenced when they banged like, a 17 year old. Still wildly unethical and no doubt a shit person and should absolutely not be allowed to be a teacher, but on the other hand I was pretty clear on which teachers I did and did not want to bang when I was 16.

    But 13 is a whole other ballpark, far far beyond any sort of wiggle room. Parents should be getting charged too.

    A trap is for fish: when you've got the fish, you can forget the trap. A snare is for rabbits: when you've got the rabbit, you can forget the snare. Words are for meaning: when you've got the meaning, you can forget the words.
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    ShivahnShivahn Unaware of her barrel shifter privilege Western coastal temptressRegistered User, Moderator mod
    96% whoo

    It is a percentage, right?

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    nexuscrawlernexuscrawler Registered User regular
    The was that subplot in Transparent that handled that issue really well. there's the one son who slept with the nanny at like 13 and everyone in the family kind of cheered him on about it even well into adulthood.

    and as the show goes on its more and more obvious the guy is really fucking damaged because of it and can't have normal relationships at all.

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    Pony wrote: »
    So guess who had a seizure at work and is really upset about it

    Gonna take a punt and say Gooey
    Pony wrote: »
    Pony wrote: »
    So guess who had a seizure at work and is really upset about it

    Gonna take a punt and say Gooey

    Correct

    Poor Gooey

    thanks guys i'll be all right

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    override367override367 ALL minions Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    ugh looks like we can't get the apartment because they want every occupant to individually have enough income where the rent is under 1/3 of their gross pay

    well the rent is more than 100% of my gross pay even if it's under 1/3 what my nephew makes but since I'm listed as an occupant they're going to turn him down

    dios mio

    What do they do with kids?

    It's only for adults, if someone's child turns 18 they won't renew their lease unless the child moves out or gets a job paying no less than ~$2800/month

    I'm not sure that's legal.

    When me and my housemates were looking for places a person from a management company told us they wouldn't rent to us since we were a bunch of unmarried dudes.

    We were like, you know that's illegal, right? (Martial status being a protected class in WA)

    They just shrugged.

    I mean it's technically illegal to not rent to my nephew+me because my income doesn't meet requirements because he's disabled

    but he's a STRONG INDEPENDENT BLIND MAN so he didn't bother to mention his disability

    he's deeply afraid of getting things just on account of his disability, and I'm like, bro life sucks and will fuck you so you use whatever you can

    override367 on
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    Kana wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Organichu wrote: »
    so i just read about another hot-female-teacher-boning-young-teen thing and so as i get through the article i see something i've never seen before in a story like this: his parents knew (24 y/o teacher, 13 y/o boy), approved, and often invited her over for dinner since she was his girlfriend

    *wipes sweat off forehead*

    What's insulting to me is that what this woman did is terrible, but because of how our society views older woman and under age male its all back slaps and "Yeah man she's hot." No she's a fucking predator who groomed her victim, there is nothing "hot" about what she did and she should get a lengthy prison sentence.

    I'm much more ambivalent when it's some story about a teacher getting sentenced when they banged like, a 17 year old. Still wildly unethical and no doubt a shit person and should absolutely not be allowed to be a teacher, but on the other hand I was pretty clear on which teachers I did and did not want to bang when I was 16.

    But 13 is a whole other ballpark, far far beyond any sort of wiggle room. Parents should be getting charged too.

    Any teacher/student relationship is squicky even if they are over legal age its not an even partnership and manipulation is clearly being applied. Its like a Doctor sleeping with a patient kind of ugly.

    Also this story follows that great one from Idaho where a dad forced his 14 year old daughter to marry her literal rapist (as in he forced her to have sex not like statutory). Been a great time for US sexual politics. And looking at how shit its getting in Brazil I worry that will be our future if Trump wins the presidency.

    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    i took the test as if i were a good mormon and got a 51

    the test is basically 'are you a liberal or conservative with liberal/conservative identitifers'

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    Evil MultifariousEvil Multifarious Registered User regular
    What kind of woman is attracted to a 13 year old boy

    Nobody is attracted to 13 year old boys, not even 13 year old girls

    Clearly something fucked up going on there

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    I was 13 and I lost my virginity to a 26 year old woman

    At the time, I did not consider the relationship exploitative and I did not consider it harmful or with really fucked up power dynamics

    But actually in my 20s I came to understand it was enormously damaging to my sexual development, my understanding of relationships, and help set me on a really horrendous path in my life

    But y'know she was hot so

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    What kind of woman is attracted to a 13 year old boy

    a pedophile

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    Kid PresentableKid Presentable Registered User regular
    i watched star trek first contact for the first time last night

    haha the guy with the weird forehead said 'Assimilate This'

    And then what happened?

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

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    NecoNeco Worthless Garbage Registered User regular
    I am either a millenial or not a millenial. Being born in 82 makes that hard to know for sure.

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    ugh looks like we can't get the apartment because they want every occupant to individually have enough income where the rent is under 1/3 of their gross pay

    well the rent is more than 100% of my gross pay even if it's under 1/3 what my nephew makes but since I'm listed as an occupant they're going to turn him down

    dios mio

    What do they do with kids?

    It's only for adults, if someone's child turns 18 they won't renew their lease unless the child moves out or gets a job paying no less than ~$2800/month

    I'm not sure that's legal.

    When me and my housemates were looking for places a person from a management company told us they wouldn't rent to us since we were a bunch of unmarried dudes.

    We were like, you know that's illegal, right? (Martial status being a protected class in WA)

    They just shrugged.

    Just takes one person who's bored enough to challenge them in court and get free money.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    vapes 87% millennially

    P10 on
    Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    ugh looks like we can't get the apartment because they want every occupant to individually have enough income where the rent is under 1/3 of their gross pay

    well the rent is more than 100% of my gross pay even if it's under 1/3 what my nephew makes but since I'm listed as an occupant they're going to turn him down

    dios mio

    What do they do with kids?

    It's only for adults, if someone's child turns 18 they won't renew their lease unless the child moves out or gets a job paying no less than ~$2800/month

    I'm not sure that's legal.

    When me and my housemates were looking for places a person from a management company told us they wouldn't rent to us since we were a bunch of unmarried dudes.

    We were like, you know that's illegal, right? (Martial status being a protected class in WA)

    They just shrugged.

    I mean it's technically illegal to not rent to my nephew+me because my income doesn't meet requirements because he's disabled

    but he's a STRONG INDEPENDENT BLIND MAN so he didn't bother to mention his disability

    he's deeply afraid of getting things just on account of his disability, and I'm like, bro life sucks and will fuck you so you use whatever you can

    yeah, though I can understand why he doesn't want to lean on it

    our society is not kind to those who get 'handouts'

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    P10P10 An Idiot With Low IQ Registered User regular
    except i'm actually a millennial unlike the rest of you phonies

    Shameful pursuits and utterly stupid opinions
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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    What kind of woman is attracted to a 13 year old boy

    a pedophile

    also an anime watcher i suppose but i guess pedophile covers all the bases on that one

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    What kind of woman is attracted to a 13 year old boy

    Nobody is attracted to 13 year old boys, not even 13 year old girls

    Clearly something fucked up going on there

    sometimes you get occasionally outlier early developers

    mutants

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    52% millennial

    sure that sounds about right

    i guess

    considering it doesn't really mean anything

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    disabled people that don't milk the system baffle me

    I'm fully abled and I'd milk the fuck out of the system, what are you all doing, jesus.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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    STATE OF THE ART ROBOTSTATE OF THE ART ROBOT Registered User regular
    P10 you are actually a meme.

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    the newspaper question is kind of outdated

    can you even buy newspapers anymore?

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    PreacherPreacher Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Orphane wrote: »
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

    Sex Offenders often claim their victims were the ones who pursued them. I would not trust literally anything about that relationship. And the boy is 13 that's not developed at all as far as mentally. I mean my son smiles at the day care ladies when he sees them, I would not be blaming him should one of them molest him.

    Preacher on
    I would like some money because these are artisanal nuggets of wisdom philistine.

    pleasepaypreacher.net
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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    look an older attractive female teacher finding interest in a student is *closes window blinds* not acceptable in society and even if the student is of age *locks door* and fully consenting, we need to understand that the power dynamic here is *open laptop* totally unacceptable and something we should not applaud or fantasize in anyway *unzips pants*

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    the newspaper question is kind of outdated

    can you even buy newspapers anymore?

    yeah totes, i get one delivered to the office

    i didnt read it today though so i had to answer no

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    P10 wrote: »
    vapes 87% millenially

    I scored 88

    Are you even a millenial u fraud

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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

    Sex Offenders often claim their victims were the ones who pursued them. I would not trust literally anything about that relationship.

    also like

    you know a teenager could pursue me all day long and like

    sorry, you're a teenager, get the fuck away

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    ChanusChanus Harbinger of the Spicy Rooster Apocalypse The Flames of a Thousand Collapsed StarsRegistered User regular
    Gooey wrote: »
    Chanus wrote: »
    the newspaper question is kind of outdated

    can you even buy newspapers anymore?

    yeah totes, i get one delivered to the office

    i didnt read it today though so i had to answer no

    hoisted by your own petard

    Allegedly a voice of reason.
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    ElldrenElldren Is a woman dammit ceterum censeoRegistered User regular
    What kind of woman is attracted to a 13 year old boy

    Nobody is attracted to 13 year old boys, not even 13 year old girls

    Clearly something fucked up going on there

    Pedophiles

    fuck gendered marketing
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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    92% millennial

    I am 30

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    GooeyGooey (\/)┌¶─¶┐(\/) pinch pinchRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Chanus wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

    Sex Offenders often claim their victims were the ones who pursued them. I would not trust literally anything about that relationship.

    also like

    you know a teenager could pursue me all day long and like

    sorry, you're a teenager, get the fuck away

    this sounds like the beginning to an 80's raunchy comedy

    day bow bow

    Gooey on
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    Element BrianElement Brian Peanut Butter Shill Registered User regular
    the newspaper questions should be changed to 'do you get your news information from a shitty source like fox or cnn or do you get it from a shitty source like gawker and buzfeed

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    navgoosenavgoose Registered User regular
    I'm nowhere near the danger zone age-wise to be mistaken for a milenial.

    I'm not taking your silly quiz!
    Get off my lawn!

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    PonyPony Registered User regular
    I was born in 1983

    Whether or not I am a Gen X'er or a Millennial depends on the arbitrary cutoff points for those generational definitions, which like all generational definitions are completely arbitrary.

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    OrphaneOrphane rivers of red that run to seaRegistered User regular
    Preacher wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

    Sex Offenders often claim their victims were the ones who pursued them. I would not trust literally anything about that relationship. And the boy is 13 that's not developed at all as far as mentally. I mean my son smiles at the day care ladies when he sees them, I would not be blaming him should one of them molest him.

    That's true

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    OrganichuOrganichu poops peesRegistered User, Moderator mod
    Chanus wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

    Sex Offenders often claim their victims were the ones who pursued them. I would not trust literally anything about that relationship.

    also like

    you know a teenager could pursue me all day long and like

    sorry, you're a teenager, get the fuck away

    I too would stiff arm a 19 year old

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    AiouaAioua Ora Occidens Ora OptimaRegistered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Aioua wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    ugh looks like we can't get the apartment because they want every occupant to individually have enough income where the rent is under 1/3 of their gross pay

    well the rent is more than 100% of my gross pay even if it's under 1/3 what my nephew makes but since I'm listed as an occupant they're going to turn him down

    dios mio

    What do they do with kids?

    It's only for adults, if someone's child turns 18 they won't renew their lease unless the child moves out or gets a job paying no less than ~$2800/month

    I'm not sure that's legal.

    When me and my housemates were looking for places a person from a management company told us they wouldn't rent to us since we were a bunch of unmarried dudes.

    We were like, you know that's illegal, right? (Martial status being a protected class in WA)

    They just shrugged.

    Just takes one person who's bored enough to challenge them in court and get free money.

    what free money

    there aren't any statutory damages

    all we could do is sue them to force them to stop doing it, otherwise we'd have to prove harm which is actually pretty hard!

    in the mean time, lol we still gotta live somewhere and we ain't got the money or time to engage in lengthy civil suits

    So the law is effectively unenforceable. Maybe $bigRightsGroup would sponsor a class-action case against $bigShittyApartmentCorp, but for individual landlords the law may as well not exist.

    life's a game that you're bound to lose / like using a hammer to pound in screws
    fuck up once and you break your thumb / if you're happy at all then you're god damn dumb
    that's right we're on a fucked up cruise / God is dead but at least we have booze
    bad things happen, no one knows why / the sun burns out and everyone dies
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    VariableVariable Mouth Congress Stroke Me Lady FameRegistered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    the newspaper question is kind of outdated

    can you even buy newspapers anymore?

    I read through one sometimes on Sunday morning at work but more often I am on my phone

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    bowenbowen How you doin'? Registered User regular
    Chanus wrote: »
    Preacher wrote: »
    Orphane wrote: »
    Re: the teacher student thing i don't want to imply the teacher wasn't at fault because she absolutely was and she should have known better, but from what i read it seemed like the teenager was aggressive in pursuing her

    Obviously teenage impulses/crushes should not be indulged by targets of said impulses and it's not like the teenager did anything illegal but i feel like his behavior and his family's behavior should also be condemned

    Sex Offenders often claim their victims were the ones who pursued them. I would not trust literally anything about that relationship.

    also like

    you know a teenager could pursue me all day long and like

    sorry, you're a teenager, get the fuck away

    Ephebophiles and pedophiles in general probably need mental health care. They do not have healthy desires.

    Good luck getting anyone to ever agree to that.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
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