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bowenbowen Sup?Registered User regular
So, I will probably be moving to Colorado in a few months. I currently live in upstate NY (near Syracuse). I'll be moving in with my brother in the interim (he's got a house in Colorado and is letting me store stuff too).

I've done some preliminary research and I'm trying to figure out the best way to accomplish this goal. At the very least I'm going to drive and bring some of my more important stuff (laptop/computer/tv/clothes). But, I've got some furniture and other stuff I'd like to keep.

I looked up my options, it looks like I could get a tow-bar installed on my 2008 escape for ~$500, and rent a uhaul trailer (6x12) for another $900 or so. I've got a dresser that's maybe 4.5ftx1ftx4ft and a dining room table (roughly the same size as the dresser) which are heirlooms (my dad made them) and I've got a leather recliner I'd also like to bring. I'd also really like to bring my toys I had as a child that my father got from Germany and a few other totes.

What is my best bet? I'm not honestly sure if the uhaul is going to be large enough, but if I go with the actual uhaul and tow my SUV behind it, it doubles my costs. I could ship it, but it's probably the same as uhauling it (though I won't be doing the driving of it, so it wouldn't be as bad). I could also get a moving company (probably the same as fedexing it I bet?). Pods are out, I can't park it in front of my apartment.

I did notice uhaul had a u-box container similar to pods, which might work because it's small enough to fit in my parking space, but do I have to tow that or is it shipped?

If it wasn't for the furniture, I could probably fit most of what I want to bring in my car. Maybe I still can and just tow behind the furniture (still not sure if it'd fit).

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  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    Does the table come apart? It's much easier to move it, and it gets a lot more compact, if you can take the tabletop off of the legs. If it doesn't, it makes packing the trailer a lot more complicated.

    Your recliner probably comes apart, too - there should be some latches at the base of the back that let you take the back off of the base, which, again, makes it a whole lot easier to move.

  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    Will you be driving alone? If you had a partner you could rent the truck and 1 could drive it and 1 could drive the car.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Will you be driving alone? If you had a partner you could rent the truck and 1 could drive it and 1 could drive the car.

    Alone, yes, unfortunately.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Elvenshae wrote: »
    Does the table come apart? It's much easier to move it, and it gets a lot more compact, if you can take the tabletop off of the legs. If it doesn't, it makes packing the trailer a lot more complicated.

    Your recliner probably comes apart, too - there should be some latches at the base of the back that let you take the back off of the base, which, again, makes it a whole lot easier to move.

    The table doesn't I don't think (I might be able to if I look closer at it), but 4 chairs throws a wrench into it either way. I'll double check!

    And yeah, the recliner I'm sure does.

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  • hsuhsu Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    I looked up my options, it looks like I could get a tow-bar installed on my 2008 escape for ~$500
    FYI, it's pretty easy to install a trailer hitch yourself, even with wiring. I've done it twice solo. You'll need to borrow tools from friends, mainly wheel ramps to get your car off the ground, and a torque wrench for the bolts, but the actual install is straightforward. It should cost you about $200 in parts and an hour with help.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah I figured, I'd rather someone else do it so it's insured if something happens in that 2-3 day drive though

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    I think you'll be surprised by how much stuff you can fit in a 12x6 trailer. If the big pieces you want to move are a table, a recliner and a dresser, a 12x6 should be plenty of space.
    Last time I moved I had that size trailer and fit a queen sized bed, chest of drawers, 2 night stands, 3 book cases and a computer desk in the thing, as well as my books (that filled the three book cases) and more than a few plastic totes full of assorted stuff.

    Definitely measure the pieces (all three dimensions) and see what can be broken down, but you should have plenty of space.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    If I can fit it all.. is there any moving advice in general like hotel stays?

    Areas I should avoid, what to look for, how to handle driving (do I really need to stay at 45 mph?) and keeping my stuff secure, etc.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    bowen wrote: »
    If I can fit it all.. is there any moving advice in general like hotel stays?

    Areas I should avoid, what to look for, how to handle driving (do I really need to stay at 45 mph?) and keeping my stuff secure, etc.

    You probably won't be able to push it beyond 45 by much anyway. Avoid trying to get a hotel in big cities and get gas and stretch often. It's not that long a drive, assume you will get out the door and on the road later than planned, always happens. Avoid pushing yourself so far that you have to find a hotel any later than 9-10pm it becomes a waste of money because check out time is 11am no matter when you check in. Sit in a restaurant at least one meal so you can feel human. Bring 20$ in small bills and quarters, tolls are stupid and you may not hit any but its a good idea. Driving the Colorado Rockies sucks balls. Hit them in the daytime and make it early if you have to go over them. For food eat where truckers eat or go with something safe. Taco Bell and Subway are pretty safe. Don't go crazy with coffee, it isn't a substitute for poor sleep and you will be pissing nonstop.

    Brain dump. Probably more later will edit. I've moved cross country 3-4 times (2400 miles)the drive is really enjoyable for me. Give yourself plenty of time and you may enjoy it too.

    Edit:U-Haul u-boxes are great for moving. I think cross country they were the best. Could fit all my stuff into one and then not ruin my car towing something and getting awful gas mileage. I think door to door it cost me 1000$ or so. They're easily large enough for a one bedroom apartment worth of stuff if you're not a hoarder.

    Compared to a one way trailer rental and cost in gas and wear, it's well worth it. They drop off. You load up and then they get it where it's going.

    dispatch.o on
  • ElvenshaeElvenshae Registered User regular
    For hotel stays, try and find nice places that aren't too nice. If they come with free breakfast, all the better, because you'll be able to eat, then brush your teeth and stuff before starting out, and you don't lose momentum from starting to drive, pulling over for breakfast, then restarting, etc. I really like Hampton Inn-type hotels for this sort of thing.

    You'll be driving through some really scenic areas, so make sure to pause appropriately appreciate the scenery.

    Stop every couple hours or so to get out, stretch, hit the bathroom, etc. It's tempting to keep driving, but you'll feel a whole lot better with semi-frequent breaks and your focus on the driving part will be much better. Similarly, if you find yourself feeling at all sleepy, pull over at the next rest area and take a quick nap. You're on your own time, you're driving alone, so there's no one there to complain about the delay and there's no one else to spell you at the wheel.

    If you have the time, see if there are a couple of places on the way you've always wanted to stop at.

    If you drive at 45mph the whole way on the highway, you will not make it. Someone will have run you off the road in rage long before you hit Illinois. Still, though, don't let yourself hit, like, 80, follow all posted speed limits, etc. Driving a vehicle with a trailer is not 100% different from driving normally, but it does weird things to your handling and especially your ability to make sharp turns. Avoid backing up if you can; it's just a pain in the ass in general with a trailer, and is a lot harder for novices who don't have a spotter.

    No one is actually going to break into your trailer, but put a good padlock on it anyway. It won't stop anyone really dedicated from breaking in, but it'll deter casual theft. But, like I said, it's almost certain no one would do that anyway.

    Get a gigantic pile of music to listen to; make sure it's upbeat stuff, and not the kind of music you listen to at bedtime. Make sure to listen to the radio a bit, too, though; take the chance to listen to a bunch of local stuff from outside your normal listening area, especially local morning radio shows.

    Try to time things so that you hit major cities at ~6am, ~10 am, ~2pm, or ~7pm to avoid rush hour shenanigans.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Just to give more info, I'll be dropping into Denver's area, so I should be able to avoid the worst of the rockies. Good advice on the hotel, I would probably push myself to do 14+ hours.

    Don't drink coffee so I'm safe there.

    I could probably do 65 with the trailers? I've seen people pass me with them before doing 90+.

    Any good recommendations for padlocks?

    I'm expecting this drive to take me 3 days at best, 4 days at worst.

    I don't do scenery, not my jam, I get that stuff on hikes, plus I've got a few high school friends scattered about I could probably go visit if I need it. Benefits of being a homebody.

    Thanks for the tips though, everyone, I appreciate it


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  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    Padlocks are just for ceremony. Anything that resists bolt cutters is fine. They don't stop anything, anyone with a crowbar can get into anything secured with a padlock.

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    edited June 2016
    Have you looked at the cost for getting a POD to ship everything but one carload? They have on demand delivery and it gives you a bit more flexibility to pack in and unpack than the Uhaul payment system.

    Quick googling shows:
    For local moves that are within 25 miles, the average cost for a 7-foot POD is around $116 per month, along with an initial delivery fee of around $90-100 to have it delivered to your home. Another delivery fee of between $100-225 will be added when the POD is shipped to your destination.

    Which is about what my sister payed moving in state. I'd imaging the delivery cost would be higher for you, but not substantially as they are mass-shipped. My sister moved cross state and it was about 300 for ~180 miles.

    Enc on
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah pods are slightly too large for my parking space, but the uhaul version looks like it might fit?

    I can double check, but they were pretty adamant about pods when I moved in, but it's been 5 years so maybe they'll be okay with it.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • mtsmts Dr. Robot King Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    If I can fit it all.. is there any moving advice in general like hotel stays?

    Areas I should avoid, what to look for, how to handle driving (do I really need to stay at 45 mph?) and keeping my stuff secure, etc.

    ohio and Iowa have the best rest stops.
    after a long day spring for a nice hotel room
    if a hotel is offering a room for $30 it is probably for a reason.
    avoid south bend

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    You should be able to do more than 45, as otherwise you will go insane crossing the midwest (it's a whole lot of straight, flat nothing).

    As others said - things like Hampton inns are great - try to target business suburbs or small cities with nice big parking lots so you don't have to worry too much about backing up with a trailer. Try to avoid staying overnight in a large city, as it's more likely to get your stuff broken into.

    more than 12 hours driving gets pretty rough, to be honest. I've done 18 hours solo before and wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

    I'd also say start purging stuff now, as it makes things a lot easier. When we moved cross country, we purged another 6 trashbags of stuff POST-MOVE, so don't be us. Also if you need to - send some boxes early if you're worried about fitting.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Way ahead of you schuss, purging started a few weeks ago.

    G/f is probably going to keep most of the larger stuff, bed, coffee tables, book shelves, etc.

    Good idea on sending stuff ahead of time. Just use regular UPS or something?

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Way ahead of you schuss, purging started a few weeks ago.

    G/f is probably going to keep most of the larger stuff, bed, coffee tables, book shelves, etc.

    Good idea on sending stuff ahead of time. Just use regular UPS or something?

    Whatever gives you the cheapest bulk rate.

    Sidenote: I know it can hurt, but ditch as many books as you can. They're just dead weight in a move.

  • IrukaIruka Registered User, Moderator Mod Emeritus
    You'll also want to find hotels in slightly less populated places because you don't want to have to worry about taking up a lot of space with your suv plus trailer in the parking lot. They are a real pain to maneuver as they get bigger. If you aren't used to hauling a bunch of stuff, its better to take it easy on speed because its not just about what the car can handle, its also you getting used to breaking distances and how much merging space you need and all that.

    We towed our car and drove the Uhaul because my car would have not made the trip if it had to work that hard. If you have a trusted mechanic, I recommend a quick tune up before the trip. If we do another move I think we are going to eat the costs of movers, because the exhaustion of packing your shit, then loading your shit, then driving your shit, then unpacking your shit really adds up. We didn't have friends to help us with the tail end of moving, so that was a factor, but something to think about.

    When we moved to Texas, we made better time than we hoped, but we also hit shit weather. Like terrible storms. When you are driving cross country you are really increasing your chances that the forecast might trip you up somewhere, so be safe and try and track it all a bit ahead of time. If a few months might mean winter, doubly so. Plan for spots to camp out if you get hit by a bunch of bullshit, and don't be a hero and try and haul your shit through an ice storm.

    Podcasts can help stimulate your mind a bit in the long stretches, I'd recommend mixing them in with the music. Download a decent amount of stuff to an old ipod or something because you will hit patches where your signal is too weak to stream.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    So I think I'm 100% going to go with pods/uhaul-alternative then for sure

    I don't really want to be doing the driving tbh, and it seems like a better idea, just have it shipped to my brother's a week or two ahead of when I plan on getting there if he'll let me.

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • ThundyrkatzThundyrkatz Registered User regular
    if you cant get the pod outside your apartment, could you use the uhaul to move from your apartment to a POD that is parked somewhere you can use like a Walmart parking lot? then just hit the road in your packed up car and let POD do the rest?

  • EncEnc A Fool with Compassion Pronouns: He, Him, HisRegistered User regular
    That's what I would do. Less of a hassle in having to defend your stuff and keep it secure, the company can do that for you. Just got to get yourself and your car there, plus a suitcase. Much more manageable and less frustrating.

  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    if you cant get the pod outside your apartment, could you use the uhaul to move from your apartment to a POD that is parked somewhere you can use like a Walmart parking lot? then just hit the road in your packed up car and let POD do the rest?

    You can do next day pick up. Tell the office it's not for storage and will only be there 24 hours. It's that or a moving truck overnight. If you're nice they won't care. A U-Haul ubox is the same size as a parked car.

    What you can do if U-Haul doesn't do drop off service is rent a truck and box and have them hitch it for you. Bring it home, park and load it without unhitching it and drive it back to U-Haul the same day. I've had to do this when moving from a smaller city. It adds maybe 40$ to the total price.

    Transit time on the box was 5 days last time I went from Nashville to California and I made sure to bring clothes and a pillow + computer in my car.

    Edit: Unless you need them tell them you don't need furniture pads. Otherwise the box will have a bundle of them in it which isn't useful and just occupies a couple sqft of space.

    dispatch.o on
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Any of you have opinions on upack cubes?

    http://www.upack.com/moving-services/moving-container-size.asp

    Looks like they might be the lowest cost of everyone, but I'm not 100% sure

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Any of you have opinions on upack cubes?

    http://www.upack.com/moving-services/moving-container-size.asp

    Looks like they might be the lowest cost of everyone, but I'm not 100% sure

    I tried to use them once but they weren't available in either location I needed them to be.

  • TofystedethTofystedeth Registered User regular
    The drive through western Kansas/eastern Colorado is a wasteland. I drove it a couple weeks ago.
    There are stretches where there pretty much nothing, including gas, so you'll want to get fueled up before you hit one. Your best bet is probably the quote Oasis on the Plains unquote of Colby, Kansas. Tons of gas stations, places to eat etc, and the last thing approaching civilization for probably 150-200 miles. There's a few smaller towns along I-70 after that, but they're typically 50-60 miles between them and usually a ways off the highway, and you do not want to be stranded there.

    There's also currently a couple 5ish mile stretches of 1 lane construction about 90 minutes outside of Denver. It's not too bad trafficwise normally, but on the way there there was apparently a terrible wreck and traffic was literally not moving for an hour. There's a detour you can take around that stretch (we ended up doing so after we gave up on that spot) but it adds a good 70+ minutes of driving.

    Also, I have connections in Denver. Specifically, my best friend's uncle is IT Administrator for the city and county, so let me know if I can put a word in.

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  • see317see317 Registered User regular
    schuss wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    Way ahead of you schuss, purging started a few weeks ago.

    G/f is probably going to keep most of the larger stuff, bed, coffee tables, book shelves, etc.

    Good idea on sending stuff ahead of time. Just use regular UPS or something?

    Whatever gives you the cheapest bulk rate.

    Sidenote: I know it can hurt, but ditch as many books as you can. They're just dead weight in a move.

    Alternatively, look into shipping costs for Media, pack those books up and send them on their own.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    no books, worst case a box or two of DVDs

    not a doctor, not a lawyer, examples I use may not be fully researched so don't take out of context plz, don't @ me
  • dispatch.odispatch.o Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    no books, worst case a box or two of DVDs

    Postal service used to have flat rate for media. It's slow but not expensive.

  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    mts wrote: »
    bowen wrote: »
    If I can fit it all.. is there any moving advice in general like hotel stays?

    Areas I should avoid, what to look for, how to handle driving (do I really need to stay at 45 mph?) and keeping my stuff secure, etc.

    ohio and Iowa have the best rest stops.
    after a long day spring for a nice hotel room
    if a hotel is offering a room for $30 it is probably for a reason.
    avoid south bend
    Also the stretch between Kansas City and Denver looks close on a map, but it is a long ways, so if you are tired don't start it, there is nothing worth while between them. Get hotels before hand you can cancel reservations up to 4pm day of in most cases Marriott/Sheridan/Hilton properties are generally pretty good. You can find them for about 70 bucks a night outside of the big cities.

    Get some BBQ in Kansas City. Joes lives up to the hype. Arthur Bryant is decent too.

    Motel 6 is cheap and generally clean, but it's 4 walls a bed and a shower.

    Don't eat vegis at a truck stop, but eat something with a bit of fiber (like a bran muffin, don't go crazy). Nothing like getting constipation cramps in Indiana to put that into memory.

    I've done almost all this trip (Denver to DC) 6 or 7 times.

    zepherin on
  • SteevSteev What can I do for you? Registered User regular
    edited June 2016
    bowen wrote: »
    Any of you have opinions on upack cubes?

    http://www.upack.com/moving-services/moving-container-size.asp

    Looks like they might be the lowest cost of everyone, but I'm not 100% sure

    I actually was going to recommend them as I started reading your thread. I don't know if they're better or worse than U-Haul's version or PODS, but I had a good experience with them moving my stuff from Florida to Illinois two years ago.

    I especially wanted to go that route after helping my wife make the same move a year earlier, where she recruited myself and her family to do the drive with a moving truck + her car attached to it via a car carrier in one shot, no stopping at hotels. That was miserable and I was an emotional wreck by the time we arrived at her shitty sublet.

    Instead, ABF delivered one of their cubes to my home, I loaded it up with my stuff and locked it, and a few days before I hit the road, they picked it up. We had a more leisurely trip and even stopped to visit some friends in Gainesville for a few hours before calling it a night just outside of Nashville.

    Anyway, I recommend them.

    Steev on
  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Yeah I checked upack doesn't look like they'll ship cube to where I live, but they'll give me X feet of a trailer.. which isn't going to work.

    Hopefully pod and uhaul's are available, or else that limits me pretty drastically.

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  • FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    Are you going around Chicago, or through? If through, be verrrry careful about when you plan to be going through there. Also you may hit a toll road or two.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    Farangu wrote: »
    Are you going around Chicago, or through? If through, be verrrry careful about when you plan to be going through there. Also you may hit a toll road or two.

    Looks like around, Chicago is a bit out of my way.

    https://goo.gl/maps/NPCud9VvE1v

    That's the planned route.

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  • FaranguFarangu I am a beardy man With a beardy planRegistered User regular
    Try to avoid hitting the stretch road between Gary and Chicago heights anywhere around rush hour, otherwise you should be fine.

  • NaphtaliNaphtali Hazy + Flow SeaRegistered User regular
    You've probably already thought about it but make sure you bring like a 24 pack of water bottles or maybe some 2 gallon jugs with you just so you can make sure you get some fluids during the trip, and some sort of snacks that are easy to intake during driving.

    I know I always forget to bring something with me on long drives for work and end up making stops.

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  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    pringles in the cup holder is usually my go to snack, didn't even think about the water though

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  • zepherinzepherin Russian warship, go fuck yourself Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    Farangu wrote: »
    Are you going around Chicago, or through? If through, be verrrry careful about when you plan to be going through there. Also you may hit a toll road or two.

    Looks like around, Chicago is a bit out of my way.

    https://goo.gl/maps/NPCud9VvE1v

    That's the planned route.
    I would take the i70 route honestly (especially if you are going in winter). I've done it both ways, and the wind sometimes fucks with me on i80 especially in Nebraska. Although it is more interesting than the Kansas stretch.

    If you are taking the i80 route, I stayed in an Embassy suites in Joliet (south of Chicago) that was really nice. If you can get a good price on that, stay there on the first leg. Mid tier is the way to go, if they include a breakfast, even better, take it into account. Then take it to Nebraska, go passed Omaha to Lincoln, or one of the small towns passed Lincoln. Omaha is surprisingly sketchy.

    If you are going i70 I usually go to the outskirts of Dayton or Indianapolis, and then the second leg take it too Kansas City.

    For this trip. I try to leave the house by 11:00pm. A lot of people don't like night driving, but it beats the shit out of hitting rush hour in the morning trying to get out of town, or hitting it Rochester or Cleveland. You'll get to Illinois about 10:00am. Find some place to eat, try to get an early check in with your hotel. Get in shower watch some TV. GO to sleep about 7:00pm and get up at 4:00am to do the second leg. That is less population dense portion of the trip and you'll want more light. For the third leg still 4:00am.

    This trip sucks if you are doing it in the morning and afternoon. It also takes a lot longer.

  • bowenbowen Sup? Registered User regular
    that's not a bad idea

    I hate night driving though

    hm

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  • schussschuss Registered User regular
    bowen wrote: »
    that's not a bad idea

    I hate night driving though

    hm

    Interstates at night are generally easy-peasy, as it's you and truckers only, rather than lots of other traffic.

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