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USA Presidential Election 2016: Vice Vice Baby
Sterica
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The most eagle-lovin' country is having an election for our leader! This only happens once every four years, so you gotta enjoy it while it lasts! Let's have a good time and talk about all the hilarious ups and downs of this election season. Warning: sometimes it may be less hilarious, and more soul-crushing!
Things to Consider Before Posting
Previously in the POTUS Thread...
In the Blue Corner...
"The Unindictable" Hillary Clinton
68 Years Old
Former Secretary of State and Senator
Strengths: She's not Trump.
Weaknesses: She's still pretty awful regardless.
Tim "Notorius D.N.C." Kaine
58 Years Old
Senator, Former Governor of Virginia and DNC Chair
Strengths: May appeal to center-right voters turned off by Trump.
Weaknesses: If you thought Clinton leaned right...heh.
In the Red Corner...
Donald "88" Trump
70 Years Old
he's allowed to run
Strengths: This country still has plenty of white people.
Weaknesses: But not enough white people.
Mike "Six" Pence
57 Years Old
Governor of Indiana
Strengths: Provides a more serious candidate to the ticket, calming GOP fears.
Weaknesses: Social regressive that is unlikely to endear himself with moderates.
FAQ
When are the conventions?
Republican: July 18th-21st
Democratic: July 25th-28th
Expect running mates to be announced or leaked a week or two prior.
Isn't Clinton/Trump in legal trouble?
Clinton seems to have (finally) shaken off her legal troubles with the FBI regarding her private email server. They have recommended no charges against Clinton, just writing off the whole escapade as her being "extremely careless" but possessing no wrongful intentions. It definitely gives Republicans a bit of ammunition against her in the election, however by the time people start paying attention to either campaign in September/October, most will have long stopped caring about the emails. Combined with Republicans wasting tons of taxpayer dollars hounding her on Benghazi, it seems like these criticisms will be easy for the Clinton camp to brush away as desperate attacks.
Trump is facing lawsuits for his crooked, fake school. I believe these are civil suits, and it's super unlikely this will have a major impact on the election besides being fodder for attack ads.
Who are our tragic third-party candidates?
Jill Stein is running on the Green Party ticket, and Gary Johnson (with running mate Bill Weld) is the Libertarian candidate. There's other perennial candidates, such as Vermin Supreme, but I'd be all day rattling off those.
What's a battleground?
A state that is polling more or less in the middle is considered a battleground. Because solidly Republican or Democratic states would require too much time and money to make even a dent in polls, candidates focus on the handful of states that are feasible to turn. Now, this doesn't mean that voting in a "stronghold" state is pointless. After all, many battleground states were at one point or another considered reliable votes for one party or the other, and people do pay attention to shifts in polls even if the overall outcome hasn't quite changed yet.
When are the debates?
September 26, 2016
October 4, 2016 (VP)
October 9, 2016
October 19, 2016
When is Election Day?
November 8th, 2016
How long do I have to register to vote?
It varies by state
I want to vote from a safe distance. What are my options for citizens abroad?
This should help you out.
Note that this should also be useful for people who are still in the States but will be in another state/city/etc from wherever they're registered come election day.
Things to Consider Before Posting
- Resist the urge to dogpile unpopular sentiments. If it's really inflammatory then report it.
- Just because somebody is/isn't voting doesn't mean they are personally responsible for the downfall of democracy.
- This is SE++ so don't get hung up on derails, especially since this is the slow part of the election cycle.
Previously in the POTUS Thread...
In the Blue Corner...
"The Unindictable" Hillary Clinton
68 Years Old
Former Secretary of State and Senator
Strengths: She's not Trump.
Weaknesses: She's still pretty awful regardless.
Tim "Notorius D.N.C." Kaine
58 Years Old
Senator, Former Governor of Virginia and DNC Chair
Strengths: May appeal to center-right voters turned off by Trump.
Weaknesses: If you thought Clinton leaned right...heh.
In the Red Corner...
Donald "88" Trump
70 Years Old
he's allowed to run
Strengths: This country still has plenty of white people.
Weaknesses: But not enough white people.
Mike "Six" Pence
57 Years Old
Governor of Indiana
Strengths: Provides a more serious candidate to the ticket, calming GOP fears.
Weaknesses: Social regressive that is unlikely to endear himself with moderates.
FAQ
When are the conventions?
Republican: July 18th-21st
Democratic: July 25th-28th
Expect running mates to be announced or leaked a week or two prior.
Isn't Clinton/Trump in legal trouble?
Clinton seems to have (finally) shaken off her legal troubles with the FBI regarding her private email server. They have recommended no charges against Clinton, just writing off the whole escapade as her being "extremely careless" but possessing no wrongful intentions. It definitely gives Republicans a bit of ammunition against her in the election, however by the time people start paying attention to either campaign in September/October, most will have long stopped caring about the emails. Combined with Republicans wasting tons of taxpayer dollars hounding her on Benghazi, it seems like these criticisms will be easy for the Clinton camp to brush away as desperate attacks.
Trump is facing lawsuits for his crooked, fake school. I believe these are civil suits, and it's super unlikely this will have a major impact on the election besides being fodder for attack ads.
Who are our tragic third-party candidates?
Jill Stein is running on the Green Party ticket, and Gary Johnson (with running mate Bill Weld) is the Libertarian candidate. There's other perennial candidates, such as Vermin Supreme, but I'd be all day rattling off those.
What's a battleground?
A state that is polling more or less in the middle is considered a battleground. Because solidly Republican or Democratic states would require too much time and money to make even a dent in polls, candidates focus on the handful of states that are feasible to turn. Now, this doesn't mean that voting in a "stronghold" state is pointless. After all, many battleground states were at one point or another considered reliable votes for one party or the other, and people do pay attention to shifts in polls even if the overall outcome hasn't quite changed yet.
When are the debates?
September 26, 2016
October 4, 2016 (VP)
October 9, 2016
October 19, 2016
When is Election Day?
November 8th, 2016
How long do I have to register to vote?
It varies by state
I want to vote from a safe distance. What are my options for citizens abroad?
This should help you out.
Note that this should also be useful for people who are still in the States but will be in another state/city/etc from wherever they're registered come election day.
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Crazy.
I feel this man's soul has been utterly broken by now.
Man, I know it's the right thing to do and all, but some deep down part of me gets apprehensive about a presidential trip to Dallas in the wake of growing violence in the country.
It's depressing that the person this nickname is being applied to is the presumptive nominee of a political party running for President of the United States.
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
I am, i guess, glad to hear this. I have a faint hope that he will be able to say something useful, and that maybe some of the extremists out there will be able to hear it.
I am also really sad that he has to do this.
As a black man with kids, I have to imagine his kids not having round the clock secret service protection has kept him up MANY nights.
Also Clinton's server WAS a legitimate issue. It's just that her predecessors all did it to some degree and she followed suit.
I know it's not meant aeriously, but still... I've been listening to one side of the public discourse blatantly lie about her since the 90s. And to hear liberals echoing those same lies in the 2008 and the 2016 elections bugs the stew out of me.
Here you go.
And I don't know how much clearer it can be made that Hillary's e-mails were a nothing issue that the GOP blew way out of proportion (and continue to blow out of proportion) but I guess that's not really a conversation we need to have again, especially since Hillary is "still pretty awful regardless."
curt hennig
Googling this dude right now.
Post-Google Edit: Yeah, that tracks. Carry on.
Nobody worth a damn is talking about Vince Foster or whatever.
Yeah, Hillary is far from the ideal candidate for progressives, and there are plenty of criticisms to levy against her record as a public servant. That doesn't somehow make the fatigue about the GOP blatantly lying about her to one degree or another during her entire political career any less valid, and that's doesn't somehow magically transform the conspiracy bait the Republicans keep trotting out to damage her campaign into anything other than complete bullshit.
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
Who, other than hardline Republicans, has ever maligned Clinton for being left-wing?
I think it's more that I've seen many left-wing people malign her for being too conservative.
She was the liberal meddling woman to the media during the Clinton Administration and was portrayed as a far left liberal as a Senator. Hillary being non liberal is a weird bit of revisionism this cycle. Even her platform pre Bernie was left of Obama this time
QEDMF xbl: PantsB G+
Has Congress hit triple digits on their number of attempts to repeal the ACA yet?
It seems like it should be bigger news and I've been wondering about it for a while but people don't really seem to take it seriously
did I miss something on that
However, the ring will never leave your finger, and you will be unable to ever describe to another living person what you see.
Foreign policy, yeah sure I have big issues with it. But then again I have big issues with Obama's foreign policy and I'd probably still vote him in for a third term if I had the option. (Because foreign policy stances of the overwhelming majority politicians, and also the american public, are just generally really bad in a lot of ways. And good in some others. But specifically bad in a few really awful ways.)
And yeah Hillary's generally been pretty liberal but also in the past ten, twenty years the democratic electorate (if not always democratic politicians) have swung pretty hard "left". (I'm talking about American left not actual normal political left.) So, you know, it's not surprising she doesn't come off as super liberal. (Although people who call her a centrist Democrat really overestimate how far left the general Democratic Party actually is.)
Anyways, can we all just agree that Texas' lieutenant governor is a burning dumpster full of human feces made manifest in human form? Like, that guy makes me even more angry than Trump because it seems like he puts extra thought into being a fucking insane sociopath.
the dispute is mostly over tone; she takes very much a small-c conservative approach to advocacy which is okay as far as it goes, but for a lot of the years she's been active in public life democrats have been losing the overall argument while winning elections on the margins. You'd like the party's standard bearer to be more of a forceful advocate, especially since it's not clear that being fully in favor of such as public option or free college tuition would be harmful to her
(and yes, I know she's lately come to endorse both of those positions)
that's why we call it the struggle, you're supposed to sweat
seen plenty of liberals/progressives be super shitty about issues affecting underprivileged groups
but, hey, they aren't threatening to kill me the direct way
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